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Title: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 16, 2007, 01:06:17 pm
I have a strange problem, partially solved. I'm FREDding a mission for INFA: SA, and I'm using special hitpoints. Strange results occurred. I tested the mission, and a ship started with 0% hull integrity and engine subsystem disabled. I took her down...with a collision!

Two destroyers jumped in and had 0% of hull integrity. Both destroyers were easily taken down!

I opened the mission with FRED. I don't know why, but many of the ships with special hitpoints had a 0 value(this explained the problem with that cruiser and the destroyers). I changed it, but something strange happened. The destroyers I mentioned above belong to two different ship classes, so they should have different special hitpoints. The problem is that whenever I change the hitpoints of a destroyer, the other shares the change.  :ick:

Solutions? Suggestions?
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: jr2 on August 16, 2007, 01:27:22 pm
:doubt: Attach the mission?
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 16, 2007, 01:35:05 pm
How can I attach an INFA SA mission full of messages? What should I do, remove them all?!?

And the problem is about FRED, not Inferno!
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Goober5000 on August 16, 2007, 05:50:58 pm
And the problem is about FRED, not Inferno!
Naturally.  It's always somebody else's fault.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: jr2 on August 17, 2007, 06:49:11 am
How can I attach an INFA SA mission full of messages? What should I do, remove them all?!?

And the problem is about FRED, not Inferno!

Eh?  Attach the .fs2 file.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 10:47:29 am
And the problem is about FRED, not Inferno!
Naturally.  It's always somebody else's fault.

Err...no. I was saying that there's nothing wrong in the way I FREDded the mission to justify the presence of that bug...

Eh?  Attach the .fs2 file.

No.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: jr2 on August 17, 2007, 10:55:26 am

Eh?  Attach the .fs2 file.

No.


Then I would suggest you fix the problem yourself.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 10:56:48 am
If you tell me that posting the mission is extremely necessary, I will do it.

And how can I fix the bug?
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: jr2 on August 17, 2007, 10:59:25 am
How would I know?  All I know is what happened: some capships jumped in with 0% hull integrity (should be impossible without them immediately exploding), and were easily destroyed (ofc)

Try opening up the mission in Notepad, and see if you can find the problem there (which was what I was going to do).

EDIT: Oh, and if you're that worried about your mission, you can use 7-zip to create a compressed version with a password, and then only PM the password to ppl that you want to get the mission.  :p
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 11:09:50 am
The problem with the ships arriving with 0% hull integrity is solved....

But the destroyers share the same hitpoint values, that's the problem now.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: jr2 on August 17, 2007, 11:12:25 am
Like I said... open it with Notepad.  That's what FS2 actually reads; FRED2 is just an interface between the mission file and you (to make it easier for you to program). 

*sigh* Open it in Notepad, hit CTRL+F, and look at the areas around where your destroyers are mentioned.  See if you notice anything out of the ordinary.  If you do, then see if you can determine the way it's supposed to be, and change it to reflect that.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Snail on August 17, 2007, 11:18:41 am
Why he won't post up the mission?

The freakin' thing is for INFASA, and we're not leaking, 'kay? Thanx.
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Mobius on August 17, 2007, 11:42:33 am
*sigh* Open it in Notepad, hit CTRL+F, and look at the areas around where your destroyers are mentioned.  See if you notice anything out of the ordinary.  If you do, then see if you can determine the way it's supposed to be, and change it to reflect that.

I know that opening the mission with Notepad is the best thing to do, but hitpoints are variables. What if there's just a single hitpoints variable for two ships?

Why he won't post up the mission?

The freakin' thing is for INFASA, and we're not leaking, 'kay? Thanx.

Moderate yourself :P
Title: Re: Integritas Navis: NIHIL!
Post by: Goober5000 on August 17, 2007, 11:53:51 am
Err...no. I was saying that there's nothing wrong in the way I FREDded the mission to justify the presence of that bug...
Yet you have provided no proof of that.


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Eh?  Attach the .fs2 file.

No.
Very well.  There's no point in continuing this thread then.

Closed.