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Title: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: akenbosch on August 30, 2007, 12:21:10 pm
too name a few:

wanderers of Sigma 957 ship

this minbari thing (could be just a tishat, but the fins are too big):

http://www.alecm.com/images/gallery/galleryBIG_B5TLT01_003x01_0270.jpg

this other minbari ship:

http://www.alecm.com/images/gallery/galleryBIG_B5TLT01_001x03_0270.jpg

http://www.alecm.com/images/gallery/galleryBIG_B5TLT01_012x01_0185.jpg

i saw these all a long time ago in lost tales...but i cant remember much of the names.



Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: IPAndrews on August 30, 2007, 12:52:03 pm
Someone please post a list of ships we do have.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: akenbosch on August 30, 2007, 01:16:36 pm
aura
tiger
badger
thunderbolt
zephyr
...

ouch...contrast hurts.

but im still eager to recreate the battle of coriana 6 and a good deal of lost tales.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: Col. Fishguts on August 30, 2007, 03:03:53 pm
Those are three renders of the same ship.

And yes, there really are plenty of ships to keep a fredder happy.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: akenbosch on August 30, 2007, 03:06:27 pm
oh..well...i guess i was fooled by a master CGI artist.

fracking cgi artist  :doubt:

edit: i dont think you have this...(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7866/untitledls6.png)
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: IPAndrews on August 31, 2007, 06:29:21 am
Clearly the message isn't getting through. Obviously I made an error in employing such subtlety. Time for big font.

You have over 120 ships. Stop complaining about ones you don't have.

And just for good measure.

TBP is finished. No more ships will be added.

Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: 0rph3u5 on August 31, 2007, 11:12:31 am
I've you think you need these ships DO THEM YOURSELF or GET YOURSELF A MODELER TO DO IT (maybe this is good for one of the commulative community projects  ;))
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: akenbosch on August 31, 2007, 12:46:07 pm
(maybe this is good for one of the commulative community projects  ;))

i think the community tbp-addon project sounds nice. good idea!
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: Cavane on August 31, 2007, 01:15:39 pm
Also, it seems a bit silly to me for someone to spend more time on a model than the time that ship appeared on screen.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: akenbosch on August 31, 2007, 01:26:18 pm
well, this sucks, i cant model the frakking disk thing on the wanderers ship.


psh...my ideas suck.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: maje on August 31, 2007, 10:55:22 pm
well, this sucks, i cant model the frakking disk thing on the wanderers ship.


psh...my ideas suck.

You can't just hit "Create PolySphere", delete half of it, and then cap the hole?  Seems fairly easy enough to me (assuming I'm thinking of the same thing you're having trouble with).

Here's the thing, yes there are loads of ships not in TBP, but what ships are they?  Seems to me, that most of the ones that were left out were seen in maybe an episode or two and never heard from again.

I know that there a few ships from Crusade that would be fairly easy to model.  The Technomage ship is essentially a wedge with a tail fin, all black.

Most of the First Ones ships are pretty basic in terms of shape and design, just need a good texture job.  Soul Hunter vessels again are pretty basic.  The only things I can think of that would be a challenge would be the Liandra, Hand vessels (due to there being no good reference images on the net of the thing, just really small promo screen grabs from Sci-Fi.com), Enfalli, and maybe the Thirdspace ships.

Heck, with decent refs, modeling the Hand ship should be pretty easy as it's symetrical (essentially a dark snowflake).

Really though, most of the ships I mentioned would only be needed if there were missions centered around them.  The First Ones seldom appeared and were only used in combat during the Battle of Corianna 6.  Liandra I believe is one of a kind patrol cutter, the Enfalli, not sure about.  The Hand were seen once and never referenced again (seriously, I wonder what thier bag was), Soul Hunters again, while existing are very rare.  Thirdspace aliens only appeared in Thirdspace.

The Streibs ship you have there only appeared once and they were rumored to only come out once in a blue moon (and were pretty weak).

Again, if you were to go for new ships, I'd focus on going for new League vessels like the Abbai Gunship that the Into the Fire space sim had concept sketches are even take a crack at developing the other Shadow Allies' vessels (there was another race or group not affiliated with the Drakh that were going to be in the game, but I can't remember who).

But asides from that, try making a campaign that uses the ships that are already in TBP unless your story absolutely calls for a new craft not in there.  Then just learn how to model and texture (follow through a few tuts and you should be good).
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: Hades on August 31, 2007, 11:15:20 pm
I just noticed something; None of the ships are HTL.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: IPAndrews on September 01, 2007, 03:02:03 am
Meaning we can have enormous Battle of Endor missions with no slow down. Great isn't it.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: -Norbert- on September 01, 2007, 04:36:01 am
BTW: Prince Endari refered to the ship in the first post as "Valen Class Cruiser".

The Minabri are so innovative with their shipclass names  :p
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: Vidmaster on September 01, 2007, 05:04:06 am
Meaning we can have enormous Battle of Endor missions with no slow down. Great isn't it.

Believe it or not, huge BoE battles are cool too. Even if you don't make a difference in the battle, it is damm fun to dogfight in those.
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on September 01, 2007, 02:55:55 pm
@maja:
run the INF build with the additional-shp.tbl - the 3rd Space Aliens are already included

BTW someone the seniors to this forum might correct me but there was/is a mod to TBP in making which has a Soul-Hunter ship and a (maybe not functional) Wanderers of Sigma models... (I think they gave us the currently existing First Ones and the new (non-cannon) Shadow vessels)
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: Hades on September 01, 2007, 02:57:25 pm
Is there a link to there site?
Title: Re: ships you dont have...(not worth anyones time. do not keep alive)
Post by: 0rph3u5 on September 01, 2007, 03:05:17 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,36731.0.html

that is the last post about that project I could dig out from the dephts of Grey 17
Title: Re: ships you dont have...
Post by: PSI-KILLER on September 01, 2007, 08:50:58 pm
oh..well...i guess i was fooled by a master CGI artist.

fracking cgi artist  :doubt:

edit: i dont think you have this...(http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/7866/untitledls6.png)

The Stribes got there buts woops by one Omega near their homeworld, there was a reason you never saw them again.