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Title: I need advice
Post by: Retsof on September 06, 2007, 08:49:21 pm
     I recently played the Incursion campaign (I think that was it) where the Shivans are exposed as religious fanatics.  I have an idea for a campaign in which a small group of Shivan radicals seek asylum in the GTVA, but if they have a hive mind that kills that idea.  Any advice and ideas would be helpfull.

P.S.  This is my first time on a message board, please tell me if I did anything wrong.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Mars on September 06, 2007, 09:33:18 pm
I tend to think that Shivans don't really think in that way.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Jake2447 on September 06, 2007, 09:38:51 pm
:welcomeorange:

Shivan hive mind isn't canon, so I guess that would be okay.  You campaign would definately be original/unique.

By the way, you didn't don anything wrong with your post.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Herra Tohtori on September 06, 2007, 09:48:34 pm
Who ever says that they need to have one hive? Perhaps there are rogue hives! :drevil:
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: karajorma on September 07, 2007, 05:53:49 pm
There is no canon proof that Shivans are a hivemind. There is a comment in the tech room that it has been speculated that they might be one in order to explain their disarray after the destruction of the Lucifer but there may be a whole bunch of other reasons why that is true.

Go make the campaign. :)
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Retsof on September 07, 2007, 07:48:07 pm
Thanks for the encouragement, I've already started working on the first mission.  I am using retail FS2, (internet too slow to download SCP).  I will post any progress in the Campaigns section.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Mad Bomber on September 07, 2007, 08:47:27 pm
Besides which, "disarray" is different from "mindlessness". The Shivans may have been unable to coordinate effectively after the loss of their linchpin warship, but by no means did it render them insensate or anything like that. The presence of Shivan vessels still fighting during Silent Threat (bad as the campaign was) testifies to that.

Short version: I don't think they're a hive mind per se (they might conceivably be connected mentally via technology tho).
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: jr2 on September 07, 2007, 08:57:50 pm
Well, you could always have them being a hive mind, but also independent; ie, they can choose to put things on the "Internet" so to speak.. or not.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Fearless Leader on September 08, 2007, 08:38:12 am
Well, you could always have them being a hive mind, but also independent; ie, they can choose to put things on the "Internet" so to speak.. or not.

so ... that would make the Luci a service provider... like AOL

that would make the Sath armada .. [Insert DSL provider name here]
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: jr2 on September 08, 2007, 05:28:41 pm
Ya, except its your mind online, so its capable of alot more.  You could have a collective sentience, as well as your own, individual sentience.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: achtung on September 08, 2007, 06:20:31 pm
so ... that would make the Luci a service provider... like AOL
Bad comparison.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Retsof on September 08, 2007, 08:47:28 pm
first mission done, gonna find somewhere to upload it and see what people think. ;7
um... where do i upload it? :nervous:
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: jr2 on September 08, 2007, 10:45:05 pm
FRED Discussion (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,89.0.html)?
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 09, 2007, 08:36:11 am
One of the first good, original ideas I've seen in a while. Keep it up!
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: karajorma on September 09, 2007, 05:01:28 pm
FRED Discussion (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,89.0.html)?

Missions & Campaigns! It would only be in the FRED forum if he had a specific fault with the mission he wanted looked at.
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Getter Robo G on September 09, 2007, 05:48:32 pm
How's this... They use a "psuedo" hive mind process for fleet coordination. Now you have two such "coordinators" in theater. The first one survived the great war and has been hiding out, the second one is from FS2 new fleet. They join up and the second one basically blows off the battle tested one proceeds to make the same tactical mistakes and assumptions the first one did (they don't get along and there is a pride thing going on also).

  So long story short you can set up why/how this Shivan coordinator can rally his loyal troops and get the hell out of dodge and actually try to approach teh GTVA for whatever reason (honor of a victorious enemy, some greater understanding that maybe they MIGHT get along in the future with such a worthy warrior race, or maybe they NEED the help of the GTVA for something unknown to us for now...)

Whatever..

Just some ideas I threw out to ya...
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Retsof on September 09, 2007, 09:14:54 pm
Ok, its in Missions and Campaigns, under "New Mission, First of New Campaign".  Enjoy! :D
Title: Re: I need advice
Post by: Fearless Leader on September 11, 2007, 07:53:11 am
so ... that would make the Luci a service provider... like AOL
Bad comparison.

lol

 :D oh yeah