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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on September 14, 2007, 11:19:52 pm

Title: Northwest Passage open
Post by: Kosh on September 14, 2007, 11:19:52 pm
A few years ago CNN ran a story (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/29/northwest.passage/) asking if global warming might open the Northwest Passage.........


It's happened.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6995999.stm



Thoughts?
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: achtung on September 14, 2007, 11:43:19 pm
Now you Europeans can start seeing "Made in China" on your products.
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: colecampbell666 on September 15, 2007, 11:01:30 am
Now the Americans and Russians can question our sovereignty even more.
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: Roanoke on September 15, 2007, 11:57:25 am
Now you Europeans can start seeing "Made in China" on your products.

like we don't see it on everything already..... :doubt:
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 15, 2007, 12:43:50 pm
Somebody made the Northwest Passage back during WW2, little US Coastguard cutter. It's been open awhile, just not safe. :P
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: Hazaanko on September 15, 2007, 04:51:02 pm
I'll try to keep politics out of this as much as possible, but pre WW2 times, people were running that passage all the time in wooden boats - not even icecutters.  Even a sailboat powered by nothing but wind almost made it completely through.  Post WW2 up until a couple of decades ago, ice surface area/mass increased in the passage and it became far more difficult to cross (polar bear population skyrocketed at that time as well might I add :ick:).  "Open" is a misleading description, since the route is still very difficult to cross, even for today's modern icecutters.  I try to keep an open mind about the whole natural vs man-made global warming thing, but this is a pretty silly thing to use as evidence in the case for man-made global warming.  BBC is great and all, but the article is just another example of bad journalism.
Title: Re: Northwest Passage open
Post by: Kosh on September 15, 2007, 11:10:01 pm
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but this is a pretty silly thing to use as evidence in the case for man-made global warming.


How is it silly? There's a rather large amount of evidence that we're losing Arctic and and Antarctic ice at an increasingly rapid rate........