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Title: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 03, 2007, 06:38:55 pm
Based on the Privateer 2 Heretic.  I used BoH_Havoc's heretic model over at CIC as a basis, although I ended up recreating everything.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic3.jpg)
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on October 03, 2007, 08:03:35 pm
That ship is a little too skinny for my tastes. Is this supposed to be an interceptor?
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 03, 2007, 08:40:14 pm
Either that or light fighter/patrol fighter, could be very fast. I still need to greeble the heck out of it yet.

Privateer 2's ships are weird.  :lol:
(http://www.wcnews.com/ships2/images/4views/full/p2heretic.png)
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on October 03, 2007, 09:41:38 pm
It's now, after you've textured it, somehow reminding (not looking like) me of a Droid Starfighter...
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 03, 2007, 11:19:45 pm
that's not my texture, thats the original Heretic
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on October 04, 2007, 05:47:24 pm
Oops. Well, regardless...
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: jr2 on October 04, 2007, 08:20:33 pm
Hey Scooby, are you gonna do normal maps for your stuff, too?  Like that (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,49871.0.html)?  :nervous:
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 04, 2007, 09:15:13 pm
If it's using a modified version of the diffuse map, then yes I already am. Any of my models that start with Finished-* have bump and normal mapping.  However, as my video card doesn't seem to handle normal maps, I have no way to tell if their working good or not.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Nuke on October 04, 2007, 11:59:44 pm
i lijked flying that ship. it just had a total look of awesome.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 06, 2007, 10:53:28 am
The Heretic was also one of my favorite fighters in P2.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 07, 2007, 05:11:21 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic4.jpg)
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Titan on October 07, 2007, 11:52:35 am
can i have a version without those front tines? so it look sorta like the ship anakin flies to the jedi temple in episode 3. you know, right after order 66
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: gevatter Lars on October 07, 2007, 11:56:14 am
The ship comes along nicely. Only thing I might do is makeing the entire fighter bigger so that there is more room for all the systems. Currently its so thin that I don't know where all the stuff should be...like reactor, engine and so forth.
Other thing could be that you give it some room at the buttom.

Anyway it comes along very nicely.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Eviscerator on October 07, 2007, 02:55:45 pm
I would raise the cockpit some, Scooby. Where it is now, the pilot's visibility is greatly compromised by the nacelles.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on October 07, 2007, 04:24:18 pm
I would raise the cockpit some, Scooby. Where it is now, the pilot's visibility is greatly compromised by the nacelles.

Look closer. The cockpit is mostly glass; the pilot is sitting higher than you think. His head is sitting higher than the nacelles...
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on October 07, 2007, 06:24:48 pm
I would raise the cockpit some, Scooby. Where it is now, the pilot's visibility is greatly compromised by the nacelles.

Look closer. The cockpit is mostly glass; the pilot is sitting higher than you think. His head is sitting higher than the nacelles...

Actually his head was just as the nacelles height, i've lowered everything but the cockpit section to around his chin height.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on October 07, 2007, 07:39:57 pm
Still counts as him sitting higher than the nacelles. Besides, realistically, if he needed to, he could roll the ship just a little to either side to see better...
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Eviscerator on October 08, 2007, 12:19:09 am
Barely higher. Besides, realistically, rolling his ship to see would be a waste of energy. I can see perfectly well that the cockpit is glass. I do have 20/20 vision, and yes I looked at it closely. Did you?

Anyway, I stand by my post that visibility should be improved, probably by raising the cockpit further. Looking at it the reasons should be obvious (like I calculate upper dome visibility to be only 181 degrees from one side to the other, most modern fighter craft are 220.)

It's your model Scooby, you should do what you want.  :nod: I just thought it would look better in the design dept with visibility improvements. Some people around just feel the need to bat-comment any suggestion I make. You should see my pm-box. It's why I go such long periods of not posting.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 17, 2007, 04:50:50 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic4-1.jpg)
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Starman01 on November 17, 2007, 05:36:28 am
Wow :eek2:

'nough said :)
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: TrashMan on November 17, 2007, 05:49:00 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/heretic4-1.jpg)

what oyu need to do Scoob, is post a tutorial on how you make such friggin SWEET textures.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: gevatter Lars on November 17, 2007, 07:49:25 am
@Trashman
I rember someone saying that Scooby tutorial is even sticked somewhere for everyone to read...thought I don't know where ^_^

@Scooby
Very nice. Only thing, but that is my very personal taste, is that I don't like the open structures on the wings where you can see some electronics and pipes on the texture. I allways think that ships should have there internal stuff covered. Else its like a human running around with an open wound. Might look cool but isn't realy helpfull at all ^_^
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: jr2 on November 17, 2007, 08:33:46 am
Hmm, well, it won't make much difference, unless it's covered by really heavy armor.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: gevatter Lars on November 17, 2007, 09:52:39 am
Well at leats it would give some protection against "near miss" shots or small debris that could hit your fighter when the shields aren't active.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Nuke on November 19, 2007, 02:51:29 am
damn fine ship
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 19, 2007, 05:31:02 pm
Looks more like an atmospheric vessel than a blocky space vessel. Kinda like a Z-95 analog.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Nuke on November 19, 2007, 06:13:46 pm
well in the privateer 2 where the original was used, you had to enter the atmosphere and land.
Title: Re: P2 Heretic WIP
Post by: Send in the TMF on November 20, 2007, 07:21:39 pm
kinda reminds me of the Blade class interceptor from Homeworld, Good work  :D