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Title: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 28, 2007, 02:37:19 am
Where can I find a list or just start spouting names of games from the last 7 years (since about 2000 give or take)?  I'm so far behind and only getting worse.   :shaking:

Ones I already have (or know i need):
halflife 1 and exp
diablo 2
morrowind
sims 2
homeworld 2
farcry
starlancer (freelancer doesn't appeal to me)
unreal 2
alice
sacrifice
deux 1 (i know about 2)
elite forces 1 (i know about 2)

I'll skip: black and white, citizen kabooto,

i know i need to find:
kiss pyscho circus

it looks like Links died in 2006  :(
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mefustae on November 28, 2007, 02:45:49 am
starlancer
While I loved the game, I kept getting this weird bug where it would crash to desktop inexplicably in the middle of missions. With the complete lack of a mid-mission save feature, I had to give up by about the 5th mission out of frustration.

Sad, indeed. Damn good game. :(
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Steel Prophet on November 28, 2007, 03:19:17 am
Call of Duty Series
Splinter Cell Series
Sacred
Battlefield Series
Ground Control

for now :)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 28, 2007, 04:14:27 am
Ok ignore the MMO and realistic games like rainbow 6.


Oh and add return to wolfenstein to the list of gotta gets.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: TrashMan on November 28, 2007, 05:51:36 am
A bit of a oldie, but goldie - Outcast

X-Wing alliance
SW: KOTOR
UFO: aftershock

hm.. lemme think. OH, the jewel:
Sword of the Stars (and Born of Blood expansion)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Rictor on November 28, 2007, 07:40:44 am
Beyond Good and Evil and Psychonauts are a must, at least if are the type of person who is able to experience joy and wonder.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Wobble73 on November 28, 2007, 07:59:12 am
I recently picked up Fire Warrior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40%2C000:_Fire_Warrior) and have been extremely impressed with it. The levels are huge, there are some fantastic voice actors in there, the graphics are top-notch and some of the ship designs remind me of FreeSpace capital ships!  :yes:

Seeing as I had never heard of this game before picking it up, I was very pleasantly surprised with it! (Published in 2003)

Edit* BTW the link above says the game is spread over 21 levels, however, some of those levels are split into three sections so there are actually more levels, the game autosaves after each section. Oh and I'm playing the PC version always best for FPS games. Anyone played this little gem?
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: asyikarea51 on November 28, 2007, 08:26:55 am
starlancer
While I loved the game, I kept getting this weird bug where it would crash to desktop inexplicably in the middle of missions. With the complete lack of a mid-mission save feature, I had to give up by about the 5th mission out of frustration.

Sad, indeed. Damn good game. :(

Same here, random crashes, though now I don't even know where I put my discs.

Definitely has to do with newer computers though, I never got the CTD on my older single-core AMD loaded with XP Home.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: diceman111 on November 28, 2007, 10:22:29 am
A few games:

Kotor 2 when team Gizka finishes their work (http://www.team-gizka.org/) since the game was a bit unfinished when it was released.
World in Conflict are a must have
Half-Life 2 + Expansions
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Sam & Max season 1
Team Fortress 2

I would skip farcry I think that game wasent that good and if you have a good enough computer try crysis that is a fun game although a bit short IMO.

EDIT: Also how could I forget Elder Scolls IV: Oblivion

/Dice

Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Sarafan on November 28, 2007, 10:53:55 am
I recently picked up Fire Warrior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40%2C000:_Fire_Warrior) and have been extremely impressed with it. The levels are huge, there are some fantastic voice actors in there, the graphics are top-notch and some of the ship designs remind me of FreeSpace capital ships!  :yes:

Seeing as I had never heard of this game before picking it up, I was very pleasantly surprised with it! (Published in 2003)

Edit* BTW the link above says the game is spread over 21 levels, however, some of those levels are split into three sections so there are actually more levels, the game autosaves after each section. Oh and I'm playing the PC version always best for FPS games. Anyone played this little gem?

Have it, I was a bit disapointed actually, graphics were quite badly done but it was a passable game, the guns were nice, I hope they make a new 40k FPS, that universe just begs for this type of game.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: jr2 on November 28, 2007, 10:56:13 am
starlancer
While I loved the game, I kept getting this weird bug where it would crash to desktop inexplicably in the middle of missions. With the complete lack of a mid-mission save feature, I had to give up by about the 5th mission out of frustration.

Sad, indeed. Damn good game. :(

Same here, random crashes, though now I don't even know where I put my discs.

Definitely has to do with newer computers though, I never got the CTD on my older single-core AMD loaded with XP Home.

OK, so, lock the process onto one core and try again, setting compatibility to XP if you are in Vista.


EDIT:  Xenon 2 & Scorched Earth FTW!!
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: TrashMan on November 28, 2007, 11:19:29 am
B.t.w. - If you get SOTS and BOB, check this out:
http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6945&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=135
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flipside on November 28, 2007, 11:26:05 am
Hostile Waters
Warzone 2100
Dawn of War
Dungeon Keeper 2
Sacrifice
Homeworld 1
Rome: Total War

That's what comes to mind, at least :)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: BloodEagle on November 28, 2007, 12:30:50 pm
Cave Story (not that GBA BS).
Walkover.
C&C: Generals (I hate the AI and the poor multiplayer code, but I love the game).
Transcendence.
Crazy Cross.
The Apocalyptic Game About Penguins.
Ground Control.
Red Faction II.
Metroid Prime (Not 2, because it sucks).
Timesplitters 2.
Final Fantasy IX.

I'll think of some more later.

EDIT: Also how could I forget Elder Scolls IV: Oblivion

Baldr crap!
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: lenard27 on November 28, 2007, 12:33:25 pm
Already mentioned but Star Wars: KOTOR And KOTOR II are awesome.  And Freelancer really wasn't that great of a game.  At all. Starlancer is so much better
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: TrashMan on November 28, 2007, 01:11:18 pm
Freelancer was good, but had little replay value.

Oh, tried Baldurs Gate 2? It may be old, but it's one of the best RPG's ever made.
Oh, the Witcher.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mustang19 on November 28, 2007, 02:02:20 pm
Where can I find a list or just start spouting names of games from the last 7 years (since about 2000 give or take)?  I'm so far behind and only getting worse.   :shaking:

*SNIP*


Well guess what? You're not doing bad. FSOpen tops all of those in my book.

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C&C: Generals (I hate the AI and the poor multiplayer code, but I love the game).

Amen. Great multiplayer actually. Maybe I'll play you some time.

Some great obscure games that you'll never play:

Space Rangers http://www.elementalgames.com/eng/r_all.php
WinSPMBT http://www.shrapnelgames.com
ORB (not really obscure, but it gets a bad rep as a HW clone and the community is pretty dead)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flipside on November 28, 2007, 02:43:31 pm
I'm actually downloading ORB now, I like Homeworldy games anyway, and it's pretty cheap. My only concern is the name which just screams 'we thought of the initials first!'.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 28, 2007, 03:23:57 pm
I recently picked up Fire Warrior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warhammer_40%2C000:_Fire_Warrior) and have been extremely impressed with it. The levels are huge, there are some fantastic voice actors in there, the graphics are top-notch and some of the ship designs remind me of FreeSpace capital ships!  :yes:

Seeing as I had never heard of this game before picking it up, I was very pleasantly surprised with it! (Published in 2003)

Edit* BTW the link above says the game is spread over 21 levels, however, some of those levels are split into three sections so there are actually more levels, the game autosaves after each section. Oh and I'm playing the PC version always best for FPS games. Anyone played this little gem?

Being a Tau player on the few occasions I ever play 40k anymore, I've long considered getting that, but I've heard it's rather lackluster. And in any case it's a little hard to come by these days.


Ground Control
Ground Control 2 (Better in a lot of ways then World in Conflict, which is very much its direct descendant.)
Steel Panthers 3 (Unlike the other Steel Panthers games, 3 is more a "grand tactical" game then a tactical one; you command larger forces over greater areas. It also, I think, has a more forgiving nature than SP:WaW or WinSPMBT. Also unlike any RTS ever made, this will teach to you a true soldier's respect for artillery.)
ORB (Homeworldesque, but compelling, with decent gameplay. It's not a Homeworld clone, though; Homeworld was much more forgiving then this.)
Morrowind (Story-wise, gameplay-wise, complexity-wise, creatively-wise, Morrowind is simply head and shoulders above its descendant Oblivion. Perhaps Oblivion's expansions helped, I don't know yet, but they have stiff competition from Morrowind's expansions too.)

Sincerely recommend skipping Homeworld 2 unless it's for mods or multi. The SP campaign is a *****.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 28, 2007, 04:56:31 pm
LOL you don't have to tell me about Homeworld 2.  OMG that game sucked so badly compared to HW1.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: colecampbell666 on November 28, 2007, 05:50:51 pm
Star Wars: Empire At War/Expansion
Half-Life 2
Age Of Empires II/Expansion
Empire Earth/EE II
Star Wars battlefront/BF II
007: Nightfire
007: Everything or Nothing
Need For Speed Underground 1 and 2
Midtown Madness II
Stronghold/Stronghold Crusader

AND THE BEST GAME EVER: Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing FTW!
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: lenard27 on November 28, 2007, 07:54:07 pm
Star Wars: Empire At War/Expansion
Half-Life 2
Age Of Empires II/Expansion
Empire Earth/EE II
Star Wars battlefront/BF II
007: Nightfire
007: Everything or Nothing
Need For Speed Underground 1 and 2
Midtown Madness II
Stronghold/Stronghold Crusader

AND THE BEST GAME EVER: Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing FTW!

I heard from many, many sources that Nightfire absolutely sucked.  EE, AOE2, and Empire at War are all stellar RTS's, though.  But for AOE 2 make sure you have the Conquerors expansion
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 28, 2007, 08:18:44 pm
Yup already got AOE2, spent many many hours playing it.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flipside on November 28, 2007, 08:28:31 pm
Hmmmm.... been playing ORB, see what you mean about unforgiving, the single player campaign is a nightmare, it relies too heavily on luck with ship-ship combat, especially in missions where you are given a group of ships and they have to survive. That said. the story is pretty intriguing so far, good job I can speed-read though ;)

Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: StarSlayer on November 28, 2007, 08:45:58 pm
Empire At War was awful, if it didn't have the SW moniker it could have at least have been a mediocre game that I could have ignored.  Instead i bought it played through the campaign and fervently wished my game store would buy back PC games like they do for consoles.  Let's face it the space combat was graphically and gamelay wise leagues behind the Homeworld series which was years older.  It was utterly simplistic and took place on a single plane, and that "movie view" didn't do it any favors either.  The ground combat was even worse, in fact its absolute crapiness dragged the entire game from mediocre to gods awful.  Dawn of War would tear it a new arsehole with a chainsword even though again the game is years older then EaW.

The Battlefront series also is rather ho hum if it were not Star Wars.  Not to say BF 1 was bad, it was rather enjoyable in a sloppy blow stuff up kinda way.  It allowed me to fly round in a Republic Gunship and hose stuff, and do it in Cockpit mode that at least made most stuff flyable and effective.  That changed with BF2, no longer were aircraft available in the ground component, but they dumbed it down severely with no cockpit mode.  Then they add the Space battle component, which really was hideous.  In fact the demo version was in better then the final component.  At least in the demo they had the right number of heavy guns on the Venerator, in the final version they managed to screw that up.  Then on top of that they managed to screw up ship roles and add non canon weapons and capital ships.  Quite frankly it was a huge let down, basically the first game, with the semi interesting air support removed with most of the same exact maps, and a half arsed space battle component tacked on.

A few games i would recommend are:

Dawn of War series (Winter Assault and Dark Crusade)
Homeworld I and II
Brothers in Arms
Call of Duty series
Total War series
Prince of Persia series
Total Annihilation (Brawlers FTW)
Journeyman Project (Time Turbo and Buried in Time)
Rallysport Challenge II
Max Payne
Dark Forces II and Jedi Knight II
TIE Fighter/XWing
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 28, 2007, 08:53:30 pm
Hmmmm.... been playing ORB, see what you mean about unforgiving, the single player campaign is a nightmare, it relies too heavily on luck with ship-ship combat, especially in missions where you are given a group of ships and they have to survive. That said. the story is pretty intriguing so far, good job I can speed-read though ;)

It's often kind of a puzzle game. It's also often worthwhile to reprocess your existing ships as the situation changes and make new ones. I never completed the Maulus campaign, but I did (barely) succeed in the Alyssian campaign which I started later.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 28, 2007, 09:04:36 pm
Starcraft (and Brood Wars) - How did Starcraft not get on this list?  :mad2: :hopping:

Halo - I know I've been more or less labeled a fanboi (or you may look at my siggy :rolleyes: ), but Halo was an innovative game in the early 21st Century. And it has a killer soundtrack...


Halo 2
Bungie should be slapped for releasing this crappy port we know as Halo 2...


the rest are covered (didn't check to see if SW: KOTOR II made it, but it should definitely be here...)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: BloodEagle on November 28, 2007, 09:15:12 pm
Starcraft was released in '98.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on November 28, 2007, 09:16:19 pm
Actually I've played Starcraft, got half ways through before it just got too boring....


Ohhhh forgot Max Payne /me writes that on the list

Starcraft was released in '98.  :rolleyes:
Actually I think it was around 2000 when I stopped buying games when they started becoming too hardware demanding.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: BloodEagle on November 28, 2007, 09:36:22 pm
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/data/25418.html
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: jr2 on November 29, 2007, 01:18:33 am
Starcraft (and Brood Wars) - How did Starcraft not get on this list?  :mad2: :hopping:

Halo - I know I've been more or less labeled a fanboi (or you may look at my siggy :rolleyes: ), but Halo was an innovative game in the early 21st Century. And it has a killer soundtrack...

< :yes: >


Halo 2
Bungie should be slapped for releasing this crappy port we know as Halo 2...


the rest are covered (didn't check to see if SW: KOTOR II made it, but it should definitely be here...)

Is there any way to make the Halo 2 port like Halo 2 4 XBOX?  By copying data from the XBOX game?  Basically, a Halo 2 XBOX > Halo 2 PC port.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on November 29, 2007, 01:36:05 pm
If you like RPGs I'd recommend the Gothic series and Knights of the Old Republic.  Jade Empire is another good one from Bioware, though it's short.  Neverwinter Nights is a vast treasure trove of D&D goodness.  Both the Vampire: The Masquerade titles (Redemption and Bloodlines) are good but flawed, though there has been community efforts to fix the problems left in the game by Troika after the last official patch, and they've mostly succeeded with everything major enough to matter.  Bloodlines is running off the Source engine (Half Life 2), so it still looks quite nice and of course it's an RPG, so it runs circles around Half-Life's story.  Arcanum: Of Steamwork and Majick Obscura is another good game that doesn't quite match the excellent turn-based combat of Fallout, but it does feature dwarves with guns and the conflict between magic and technology (you can turn junk into all kinds of interesting gadgets).

For 3rd person shooters there's titles like Max Payne 1&2, and the Hitman series (brilliant).  Bloodrayne and it's sequel are something of a guilty pleasure: they aren't all THAT great but you can impale somebody and spin them around, slicing off all of their extremities like you were shaving a block of cheese (or split them up the middle like Wesley Snipes did to Ron Perlman in Blade 2), so that's nice.

RTS games I haven't been into that much these past few years, apart from the Dawn of War series which has been mentioned already.  Dawn of War is probably the first title to actually FEEL like the Warhammer 40k setting, even if it's not abiding by any of the rules.

For the FPS games, try to dig up a copy of No One Lives Forever and it's sequel, as they're fantastic and hilarious all at once.  F.E.A.R. is another excellent game by the same development team, though that's more recent and requires a heftier rig to run properly.  Another good one is Aliens vs Predator (also Monolith).  Jedi Knight is a mixture between the 3rd person and FPS gamestyles, and it's uniformly excellent.  Soldier of Fortune is also great, and very very violent.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mustang19 on November 29, 2007, 03:52:07 pm

Steel Panthers 3 (Unlike the other Steel Panthers games, 3 is more a "grand tactical" game then a tactical one; you command larger forces over greater areas. It also, I think, has a more forgiving nature than SP:WaW or WinSPMBT. Also unlike any RTS ever made, this will teach to you a true soldier's respect for artillery.)
ORB (Homeworldesque, but compelling, with decent gameplay. It's not a Homeworld clone, though; Homeworld was much more forgiving then this.)

First, SP3 isn't an RTS, second, I want to hear where you're coming from with the artillery. I don't notice much of a difference. I agree that SP3 does make artillery a bit more of a noob stick, though, as the large-hex scale (250m a hex? Can you truly simulate a tactical game on that scale?) makes it easier to get artillery on target, especially when you're using whole batallions of the stuff.

OTOH I like the orders feature in SP3, which gives you at least some appraisal of command and control problems, but all in all I prefer SP2 simply because of the unit counts. I gave up the Arnhem campaign after a few missions simply because I spent about 90% of my turn clicking on the map telling my batallions to move. Even with formation move, AI orders, and such, once you're commanding a brigade or so of units it gets tedious. It also doesn't feel "down and dirty" like SP2, where you were thinking on the scale of individual tanks and squads. I just like tactics better. But SP3 is a great game anyway, just a lot of stupid exploits (like the unstoppable all FASCAM/ammo truck core).

Can't say much about FPS or RTS. The newest game I have in that area is probably BF42, and also KOTOR but I've never played it.

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It's often kind of a puzzle game. It's also often worthwhile to reprocess your existing ships as the situation changes and make new ones. I never completed the Maulus campaign, but I did (barely) succeed in the Alyssian campaign which I started later.

ORB: Terrible to mediocre gameplay, great story and atmosphere. That's why I like it.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Polpolion on November 29, 2007, 05:54:04 pm
I can't remember when it was released, but Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri was a great game.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: spartan_0214 on November 29, 2007, 06:22:10 pm
Is there any way to make the Halo 2 port like Halo 2 4 XBOX?  By copying data from the XBOX game?  Basically, a Halo 2 XBOX > Halo 2 PC port.

       I don't think so. The Xbox uses different file types than PC, so a port is probably out of the question. Big companies like Gearbox are paid to take the raw data and make it available for use on the PC, not hard considering that every game is developed on the PC. The main problem with the Halo 2 PC release is that Bungie didn't deliver on it's promises regarding upgraded graphics. They said that Halo 2 would support 1080i, but it still only runs at 480i, they promised to redo the textures, but they scarcely even touched them, and the list goes on. Another problem with Halo 2 PC was that they dumbed down the editors. You can't do as much with the editors as you could with those for Halo PC, and thus the CE maps aren't going to be as comparatively good as those for Halo PC. If you really want to read more about this, there's a link here (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6854) in which someone made a rather long list of complaints regarding Halo 2....
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: General Battuta on November 29, 2007, 10:27:40 pm
       Bungie didn't deliver on it's promises

Actually, the port was done by a Microsoft team independent of Bungie, called Hired Gun.

The team's already been dissolved.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: NGTM-1R on November 30, 2007, 02:16:29 am
First, SP3 isn't an RTS, second, I want to hear where you're coming from with the artillery. I don't notice much of a difference. I agree that SP3 does make artillery a bit more of a noob stick, though, as the large-hex scale (250m a hex? Can you truly simulate a tactical game on that scale?) makes it easier to get artillery on target, especially when you're using whole batallions of the stuff.

No, it's not, but it's better. So there.

I never played the earlier ones, only WinSPMBT and SP:WaW. SP3 has the scale thing going for it (frankly I'm sick of small-scale tactical games) and having played things like Panzer General or a number of the larger-scale tabletop games that these things descend from, I am predisposed to larger-scaled games.

Name me one RTS, one at all, where artillery was the primary dispenser of death and destruction. Even the other Steel Panthers games I've played don't have it as such. But when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it in reality, there is a reason field artillery is regarded as the king of the battlefield. It is. What takes a company of tanks a thirty minutes a company of MLRS launchers can accomplish in seconds. This is as it should be. This is as Steel Panthers 3 makes it.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flipside on November 30, 2007, 06:45:39 am
Supreme Commander was pretty good for longer range combat, so was Warzone 2100 (It was actually possible to use artillery as a primary weapon to win the game, but you still had to use conventionals to establish an artillery zone first).

Must admit though, what I loved about 2100 was the ability to do things like assign a unit to a single radar, and they would only attack enemy contacts on that specific radar etc. That kind of flexibility meant that you could set up a massive military network.

I wish that the Source Code update on it had included larger maps, but I get the feeling that they would have had to have gone through the lot changing a byte value to an int or the like, since the maximum map-size was 256, so it probably would have turned into a seriously big job.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mustang19 on November 30, 2007, 08:28:23 am

Name me one RTS, one at all, where artillery was the primary dispenser of death and destruction. Even the other Steel Panthers games I've played don't have it as such. But when you get down to the nitty-gritty of it in reality, there is a reason field artillery is regarded as the king of the battlefield. It is. What takes a company of tanks a thirty minutes a company of MLRS launchers can accomplish in seconds. This is as it should be. This is as Steel Panthers 3 makes it.

It's just a matter of scale. In SP3 you have the power to call down whole batallions of cluster artillery. Not just "one company". The artillery equivalent of a company is a battery, ie six MLRS. Now tell me that you'd rather have six MLRS than fourteen Abrams. However, logistics hardly exists in SP3 and artillery is extremely cheap.

Because of the unit counts it's hard to understand the scope of what you're commanding at times, but SP3 is a large game that gets hazy around the edges. Obviously there's the artillery, and the Steel Panthers games give you way more artillery than you could logistically support except in certain extreme main-effort situations. Ammo trucks are the major issue here. If you've ever played SP or WinSPMBT online it's usually agreed that only 10-20% of your points can be spent on arty, as just buying hordes of FASCAM (which have more effective direct fire than tanks due to flaky OpFire code) is the gaming equivalent of killing the Sathanas with a Maxim.

But I digress, what was the point of the thread again... talking about shiny new games?
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: castor on November 30, 2007, 01:38:14 pm
I can't remember when it was released, but Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri was a great game.
Seconded.
And as for turn based RPGs, Wizardry 8 is about as good as they get :pimp:
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flaser on November 30, 2007, 10:07:08 pm
Anyone recall a strategy game where re-supplying your forces (with ammo too) was an issue?

The games I played were:
X-Com
M.A.X.
War Inc.

Recently you discussed Steel Panther. What was that like in that issue?

If I had an RTS like that with massive maps (AKA true strategy like in Supreme Commande) I would be the happiest desktop general on the continent.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: redsniper on November 30, 2007, 10:44:16 pm
bwoah, X-COM is awesome and HARD.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Hellstryker on November 30, 2007, 11:03:01 pm
Marathon, but thats far older than Se7en
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mustang19 on December 01, 2007, 02:24:33 pm

Recently you discussed Steel Panther. What was that like in that issue?

Mostly tactical battles, so ammo supply usually wasn't important. If you ran out of missiles on the front line, you'd pretty much go without them, which made sense. The only way to resupply your ammo was with ammo trucks, which were/are extremely cheap, so your artillery basically had unlimited refires. Again, this doesn't accurately reflect the logistics of that kind of situation, so in self-discipline I tried to avoid "gamey" things like that.

I mean, it wasn't that bad. The thing to remember is that SP games were meant to be simulations and gameplay wasn't the focus. Therefore, you weren't prevented from doing some pretty crazy things, as the whole game engine was just too complex to thoroughly balance. Only common sense and common courtesy prevent multiplayer games from getting ridiculous. One of my favorite WinSPMBT pastimes is using my Blackhawks as anti-helicopter interceptors.  :p
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flipside on December 01, 2007, 03:02:17 pm
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Anyone recall a strategy game where re-supplying your forces (with ammo too) was an issue?

The Battle Isle series was a pretty good set of games that had that sort of thing to take into account :)
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: NGTM-1R on December 01, 2007, 04:52:21 pm
Close Combat made you conserve, since there was no resupply. :p And it could get awful tight in a long campaign at some of the forward maps, were you're down to a couple magzines per weapon. There were times where you'd be replacing your units just to get more ammo.

I have a horrible habit of buying extra FO vehicles and converting them to attack helicopters as the game progresses in SP3. Mainly use them to hunt artillery...
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Col. Fishguts on December 02, 2007, 08:17:04 am
Battlezone had you resupply your vehicles with ammo. But that was one the less fun aspects of the game, which was otherwise pretty excellent.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Flaser on December 03, 2007, 12:31:13 am
Battlezone had you resupply your vehicles with ammo. But that was one the less fun aspects of the game, which was otherwise pretty excellent.

I think otherwise, it was the sole thing that made tactics necessary - you couldn't steamroller the enemy with a single tank rush, it took hard work to bring him to that point.

Unfortunately the only part of the Battle Isle series I played was Incubation.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: nvsblmnc on December 05, 2007, 02:09:54 am
The NOLF games Marcus Vesper mentioned are two of the best FPS games you can get on PC.  Just when the genre was getting tired, Monolith reinvigorated it with humour and complex storylines.  This also worked to make the sheer agression of the combat more surprising when you noticed it.

Soldier of Fortune II was also pretty good, very user-friendly when it came to modding.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 05, 2007, 03:28:01 am
Last seven years? ................



HL2 and ummm..................




Homeworld2 :D

Also Hitman games.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Ashrak on December 05, 2007, 10:17:01 am
Heagemonia: legions of iron (Wow this game rocks)
Nexus: The jupiter Incident
HW 1, Cataclysm and HW 2 with cheats
COD4; modern warfare
HL series
Darkstar One
POP
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: spartan_0214 on December 05, 2007, 05:48:07 pm
Meh, CoD4 is merely an okay game. It's like every other Call of Duty game, but placed in today's world. Not anything new, merely okay.

DarkStar One is also merely okay. It's almost just like its predecessor Freelancer, only the devs removed the greatest part of Freelancer, the ability to buy new ships. Storyline is meh, graphics meh, ship meh, upgrading meh, overall meh/okay.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 06, 2007, 03:20:34 am
Call of Duty 4 is too short, only missions i liked were Captain Prices flashback to Chernobyl and the Presidents execution. Also post crash irradiated death.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Roanoke on December 07, 2007, 04:00:03 pm
Got Hostile Waters. I remember watching my bro play that years ago. Pretty decent, but the command interface (for controlling other units) is a little clunky.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Rand al Thor on December 26, 2007, 07:27:54 pm
The reloaded aspect of Battlezone is the only thing that felt cheap in the game and was a huge let down. On the highest difficulty level you couldn't even kill an enemy mainline tank (can really remember; the Grizzly maybe, and it's Russian equivalent) without reloading using the standard canon, even if every hit landed. And even with the blast (I think) canon you'd only get two. Otherwise excellent game. I hear the sequel was class too.

Personally I'd have to go with;
Total War series (spend way too much time micromanaging these at the epense of other games)
Baldur's Gate series
Fallout 1 and 2
Operation Flashpoint
Half Life series
Thief 1 and 2
Myth 1 and 2 (mainly 2) especially for the multiplayer (really must get back into that) and story

I'm sure there's others I'm forgetting, but story and history, atmosphere and emersion are my big factors. I'm not adverse to a big of blasting though which is why Freespace is probably at the top of that list.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Roanoke on December 27, 2007, 02:53:48 pm
Good call on Op. Flashpoint.

how about Clive Barker's Undying ? That's good.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 27, 2007, 04:11:53 pm
Good call on Op. Flashpoint.

how about Clive Barker's Undying ? That's good.

"Be ever vigilant or the Undying King will walk the earth once more."
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on December 27, 2007, 04:20:56 pm
Good call on Op. Flashpoint.

how about Clive Barker's Undying ? That's good.
Word of warning!  Undying is indeed an excellent title, but apparently there are fairly widespread problems with the copy protection on the cd causing the game to exit after throwing up the initial splash screen.  When that first happened to me I wasn't sure what the hell was wrong with it, as it had run on the computer before, but I chalked it up to a system issue or something.

Installing it on a brand spanking new box, having it run fine (to which I rejoiced!), leaving for vacation, and coming back only to have it do the same thing it was a year ago on the old machine though......that got me scrambling for a solution.  Downloading a no-cd patch did the trick, but it took me an aggravatingly long time to find a site that would come right out and say that was what's wrong (and of course they didn't link to a site WITH no-cd patches (not that those are hard to find), and then it only ran in Windows 9x).

So the whole ordeal was one giant fiasco, hence my advice right now: Get a no-cd patch first thing after installing it.  Considering it never actually needs anything on the cd, and there's no multiplayer, there really isn't any downside (so long as you actually paid for it).  Publishers should really stop making paying customers go through the same channels that people planning on stealing their products use, just so they can get them to play.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 27, 2007, 05:33:32 pm
Hmmm... never had a problem with Undying.  BTW is there some texture upgrade mods for it?  It'd look even more creepy with some decent texturing.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Roanoke on December 29, 2007, 02:16:53 pm
There was an Undying page on 3dap but it seemed to be pretty dead (and that was a couple of years ago).
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on January 02, 2008, 01:12:28 am
I'd be ecstatic if it turned out there was one, but most texture upgrade projects are for games that were either extremely beloved or for titles that had an active mod community because of things like multiplayer.  Undying never even had a patch, and while it's built on the Unreal engine, there was no mod support packaged along with it (probably because of the whole "no multiplayer" thing). 

That would really make my day if it existed, but the odds aren't really very good that it does.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Roanoke on January 02, 2008, 01:21:53 pm
Yes there was: "UndyingEd" (though i never tried it).
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on January 02, 2008, 07:59:46 pm
Yes there was: "UndyingEd" (though i never tried it).
Was that a seperate installation option or something?  I'd check but I've buried my cd....somewhere.  It's definitely not part of my installation anyways.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Scooby_Doo on January 02, 2008, 10:58:56 pm
I think you had to download it, don't remember, or maybe that was RuneED
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Roanoke on January 03, 2008, 05:32:57 am
Yes there was: "UndyingEd" (though i never tried it).
Was that a seperate installation option or something?  I'd check but I've buried my cd....somewhere.  It's definitely not part of my installation anyways.

I just noticed it as an .exe file in my install. Same as FRED2.exe was in the FS directory.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on January 04, 2008, 10:08:43 am
Yes there was: "UndyingEd" (though i never tried it).
Was that a seperate installation option or something?  I'd check but I've buried my cd....somewhere.  It's definitely not part of my installation anyways.

I just noticed it as an .exe file in my install. Same as FRED2.exe was in the FS directory.
Ah, well back in the day I used to delete anything I determined I wasn't using that wouldn't break functionality.  Then I got a gigantic hard drive and stopped bothering, ha ha.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 08, 2008, 06:58:07 am
Oh my, let's see the list (this may go back pre-2000, it's all a blur):
-Rogue Spear (the only real R6 sequel; lockdown and Raven Shield are garbage)
-Ghost Recon
-Hidden and Dangerous Deluxe (it's free for download now, google it)
-Deus Ex
-System Shock 2 (OK, yes, pre-2000 but arguably the best FPS/RPG combo ever made, including DX and BioShock).
-HL2 + Episodes
-Splinter Cell series (up to Chaos Theory anyway)
-Battlefield 1942
-Tribes 2
-C&C RA2
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: TrashMan on January 08, 2008, 09:01:55 am
Anyone recall a strategy game where re-supplying your forces (with ammo too) was an issue?

Conquest: Fronter Wars
Very good game. Lots of strategy and tactics.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Mustang19 on January 08, 2008, 11:25:11 am
I can name a few. Most tactical simulation type games have you resupplying ammo, of course. Probably the most popular game featuring supply are the generals series games (Panzer General, People's General, and about 4 others), although those aren't really sims in my book.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: spartan_0214 on January 08, 2008, 10:19:54 pm
-Splinter Cell series (up to Chaos Theory anyway)

Up to and through, or just up to? If it's the former, I agree. If it's the latter, what's wrong with SC:CT?
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 08, 2008, 11:42:53 pm
Up to and through, or just up to? If it's the former, I agree. If it's the latter, what's wrong with SC:CT?

Sorry, I should have said inclusive.  Chaos Theory was great.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Zoltan on January 09, 2008, 11:20:18 am
Freelancer was good, but had little replay value.

Oh, tried Baldurs Gate 2? It may be old, but it's one of the best RPG's ever made.
Oh, the Witcher.

Baldur's Gate II is a must, as is Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Marcus Vesper on January 09, 2008, 11:40:44 am
Freelancer was good, but had little replay value.

Oh, tried Baldurs Gate 2? It may be old, but it's one of the best RPG's ever made.
Oh, the Witcher.

Baldur's Gate II is a must, as is Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
If you're going to play Bloodlines, I recommend grabbing this patch and graphics update (http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?id=2112).  It's in torrent form, since the original host unexpectedly retired from the modding scene and there aren't many mirrors.  This is different from the rather large patches unofficial patches hosted elsewhere, as that isn't so much of a patch as it is a total conversion, adding unofficial content, messing with balance, etc.  This one just fixes the game so it plays as intended, rather then how certain people in the mod community think it should play (Predictably they mucked about with the guns more then anything).
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: TrashMan on January 09, 2008, 04:56:34 pm
Arr...just download the PS2 emulator and Saint Seiya - Hades Chapter...damn, it's a great game...pwns mortal combat, tekken and half the other stuff :P
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: Grizzly on January 10, 2008, 07:56:21 am
World In Conflict
Neverwinter Nights
Freespace Open

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LOL you don't have to tell me about Homeworld 2.  OMG that game sucked so badly compared to HW1.

They both sucked compared to:

O.R.B.

Need For Speed Underground 2.

To name a few games I like.
Title: Re: Good games from the last 7 years.
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 10, 2008, 01:11:58 pm
Need For Speed Underground 2.
NFSU2 = Win.