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Title: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: hip63 on November 30, 2007, 08:06:33 am
I talked with IPA and we decided that "b" was needed to avoid "which version" confusion. :shaking:

OK I think I've got the last of the fixes and updates for TBP v3.4b. :)

The big hang up on v3.4b is getting it compiled, the vp editing tools are giving me some trouble. :hopping: (i've already communicated the issues to IPA, we are working on it ;) ) Maybe we can have it sorted in a week or two, real life may cause delays with the holidays and all. :nervous:

So hopefully (but not promising) v3.4b will be out before Christmas ;7

hip63 :p

P.S. - Santa may bring an extra little stocking stuffer too... a TBP DVD :pimp:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/hip63/misc/TBPDVD.jpg
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on November 30, 2007, 08:14:11 am
cool.

What can we expect for the "b" version ?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on November 30, 2007, 08:16:54 am
Nothing new. More stability. Less bugs.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on November 30, 2007, 08:20:03 am
If you're compiling the VPs again I recommend not having any VPs with more than 4000 files in it so that tools like ModelView will work with them. BtRL also ran into a few problems with anti-virus and the like which were also most likely due to the large VP size (They never affected the same people using FS2_Open for instance).
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: terran_emperor on November 30, 2007, 08:29:31 am
Look forward to it
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: hip63 on November 30, 2007, 08:41:36 am
cool.

What can we expect for the "b" version ?

Nothing new. More stability. Less bugs.

and nameplates :D

hip63 :p
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 01, 2007, 06:28:06 am
the nameplates by skullar will be integrated? great, less file size for my next campaign.

Will we get the new BtrL glide code? PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE ???  :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 01, 2007, 08:12:30 am
Will we get the new BtrL glide code? PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE ???  :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

Not sure. Karajorma could answer that since he kindly compiled us some new executables.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: jr2 on December 01, 2007, 08:23:11 am
Sw3333t.  When it is released, let me know... I'll re-up it to FileFront in my funky way.  (turds.. they've got something against files labeled "The Babylon Project" :eek: )

Looks like I'll have to use another cypher code rather than Pig Latin... they trashed my Ethay Abylonba Ojectpra 3.4a upload.  :p to them.  Maybe I'll name it it's own MD5 hash, just to make them sputter.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Skullar on December 01, 2007, 09:08:00 am
and please ask karajorma and taylorif they can get the no-glowmaps-with-texture-replacement-bug  fixed till then.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2007, 11:09:34 am
the nameplates by skullar will be integrated? great, less file size for my next campaign.

Will we get the new BtrL glide code? PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE ???  :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

You got lucky. I didn't have enough space on my hard drive to download the 3.6.9 branch again so I just swapped icons on the BtRL build and compiled that for IP Andrews :D
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 01, 2007, 02:35:07 pm
so that means yes?


STRIKE!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: terran_emperor on December 01, 2007, 03:49:36 pm
BtrL :confused:
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2007, 04:01:23 pm
Beyond the Red Line (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3502). The Battlestar Galactica mod.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 01, 2007, 05:57:15 pm
You got lucky. I didn't have enough space on my hard drive to download the 3.6.9 branch again so I just swapped icons on the BtRL build and compiled that for IP Andrews :D

hmmm.... Thanks Kara as always but to make it clear. My priority is and always has been stability and bug fixes. To that end the AI class bug fix is much, much more important than the BTRL glide code.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 01, 2007, 06:39:36 pm
Yeah, I added that before I compiled it. :)

You should have all the bug fixes you asked for. The BtRL changes were rather minor and by now have been pretty heavily tested anyway. Consider it a bonus.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 02, 2007, 04:13:05 am
a much appreciated bonus!  What exaclty is that AI_Class Bug? The one that let the whitestars be a sitting duck?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 02, 2007, 05:13:07 am
The one that prevented you from having Vorlon Fighters in missions.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 02, 2007, 06:01:41 am
And a myriad of other ships actually. About half of them. I was suprised so few people complained about it. Thanks for the builds Kara.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 04, 2007, 11:41:45 am
is that AI_class bug the reason for FRED's crash every time I set the player's ship to a Drazi Sky Serpent or a shadow fighter, or ... ???  I will need some of those possibilities in the near future...
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 09, 2007, 02:40:46 pm
Decided to contribute something to a better TBP, too. It's just a small annoyance but it's that kind of small annoyance that never gets fixed because it's so small. I updated Mission 1 - 4 of the EMW Demo, so the Briefings show the correct ships now, instead of weird bull****.

If you can put that to any use, I will do the same for RaiderWars.

EDIT: Forum says, Upload folder is full. Therefore, I send the file to hip and IP.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 09, 2007, 03:32:17 pm
If you can put that to any use, I will do the same for RaiderWars.

EDIT: Forum says, Upload folder is full. Therefore, I send the file to hip and IP.

You can mail me at [email protected], I think you'll find I updated all the icons in Raider Wars.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 09, 2007, 10:45:56 pm
3.4b changes
* BTRL's glide mode (maneuver thrusters react to gliding in a realistic way) of Backslash, Turey and Karajorma
* FRED player ship crash bug fixed courtesy of Karajorma
* Omega nameplates courtesy of Skullar
* MaintBot welding beam weapon (to fix in-game crashes) courtesy of Orpheus
* Very Minor bugfixes to RW missions courtesy of Orpheus
* B4 rotation fixed
* Shadow carrier fighter launch and docking paths
* Resized and reshaped warp tunnel model
* Glide enabled for all Star Furies
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: jr2 on December 10, 2007, 01:46:26 am
3.4b changes
* B4 rotation fixed
* Shadow carrier fighter launch and docking paths
* Resized and reshaped warp tunnel model

Those 3 are courtesy of you?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 10, 2007, 01:58:31 am
Yes. All very minor changes but it took a week to get around to doing them.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: jr2 on December 10, 2007, 02:01:50 am
Well... IPAndrews, Karajorma, Orpheus, and Skullar... thx much!  :D  (http://images.devshed.com/fdh/smilies/honorhim.gif)
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 10, 2007, 02:08:42 am
Best way to thank us? Make a campaign :).
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: jr2 on December 10, 2007, 03:09:17 am
Err.... heh, maybe someone with some skillz could do that.  Any campaign I made would most likely be considered an insult, not thanks.  XD  :p  Either that, or it would be completely awesome... and released in the year 2012.  :(
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 10, 2007, 03:10:32 am
The glide changes weren't mine. I think Backslash and Turey were responsible.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 10, 2007, 03:15:49 am
It's a great change. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 10, 2007, 09:18:53 am
Make a campaign :).

Fortune Hunters 2260 is about 60% finished
Dark Children is about 30% finished (had some major problems with FRED concerning some ships, I had to do a lot of work with a text editor, but 3.4b should fix those)
Pawn is 20% finished, mostly concept and early testing. I'll get me some help on this one.
Fortune Hunters 2261 is rougly to 40% finished

Still far to few campaigns if you consider the amount of work YOU did on the whole TBP mod, but still...  :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, none will be finished for Christmas. Sorry pals, no present from Vidmaster for you.

EDIT: Sorry to mock you again on this, but what's with the Glide_enabled Fury variants? Included too?
          Don't rip my head off IP or delecte this post, PLZ! I just love the glide feature.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 10, 2007, 12:06:35 pm
See last entry in earlier post.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 10, 2007, 01:08:31 pm
 :) :) :) THANKS!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 15, 2007, 11:07:32 am
Another important question: Will all those fixes also be available when you use the Inf build? (Do the new Glide codes/AI fix belong to the BtrL.exes ?).

Some missions (including some of mine) have to be played with that build or they make a lot of trouble and no sense.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: karajorma on December 15, 2007, 11:25:25 am
Both builds are identical apart from the compiler switches used.

Oh, I should warn. D3D won't work. You can select it in the launcher but it will simply run OpenGL same as we did for BtRL. The support work needed to tell the few people with a genuine problem with OpenGL to use a specially downloaded D3D enabled build was FAR less than dealing with thousands of people who otherwise wouldn't have read the instructions and would have run it on D3D mode.

I will be sticking a D3D enabled build up on my webspace for the few people who do actually need it.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: G0atmaster on December 15, 2007, 12:01:50 pm
lol I'm hitting myself now.  I spent all day yesterday and so far today trying to download TBP 3.4 and the 3.4a update.  Will 3.4b be compatible with 3.4a?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 15, 2007, 01:42:43 pm
I guess it will be just a patch...
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: G0atmaster on December 15, 2007, 03:30:49 pm
Hey, how is the glide supposed to work in this?  I just played BTRL, and it's NOTHING like that.  There's no noticable effect at all when I use my "activate glide" key.  What am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Steel Prophet on December 15, 2007, 03:40:54 pm
Maybe you're using the wrong key?
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: jr2 on December 15, 2007, 11:12:24 pm
IIRC, it's Q... but check to see what your glide key is... get up to speed, and hit the key... is it a toggle, or a momentary switch?  Try just pressing it, then changing direction (toggle), or holding it, then changing direction (momentary).
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: G0atmaster on December 16, 2007, 12:57:10 am
It was alt G, I changed it to Alt Q.  But Alt Q does nothing.  I only tried it as a toggle, though.  I'll try it as a momentary thing next.  On another note, sliding doesn't work either.  I can't thrust up, down or sideways.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 16, 2007, 06:13:11 am
in 3.4a, Glide ONLY works with the Aurora Starfury.   (even the MKI variant cannot glide). This will be changed in 3.4b  :)
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 16, 2007, 12:57:48 pm
I updated Mission 1 - 4 of the EMW Demo, so the Briefings show the correct ships now, instead of weird bull****.

Did it arrive?  :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 17, 2007, 03:47:06 am
Just trying to locate Orpheus's updated RW missions. Once I have those we're ready to go with TBP Final 3.4b.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 24, 2007, 06:14:47 am
For everyone's information 3.4b is complete now and sat on my hard disk. It's all looking very nice. Much more stable than the last release. So thanks to everyone who helped iron out the bugs. I just need to get the files to Hip63, who is likely busy with Christmas as with everyone else. A release then is more likely to happen very early in the New Year. So get your campaign ideas on paper ready for 2008. Merry Christmas all.
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: Vidmaster on December 24, 2007, 08:16:50 am
oh you will be suprised...  ;7
Title: Re: Sit tight! TBP v3.4b is coming kinda sorta maybe soon!
Post by: IPAndrews on December 30, 2007, 03:52:50 am
Final countdown.