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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: wolfen on December 05, 2007, 04:09:11 pm
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Ok everybody its been a while since I have been able to play FS and actually enjoy it, along with being able to do anything and enjoy it, I have (since Feb when I got this computer with Vista on it) downloaded tureys installer about 50 to 60 times, every time I have to reload this computer cause vista crashed, totally froze, gave up, or just plain didn't stat at all.
But..............I have effectively found a very nice fix for ll my vista problems, I found a full blown copy of XP home with SP2 and all the goodies at Office Depot for $187, I finished installing the last of my old xp backups today :) Freespace runs like I'm actually in outer space now, and the world is right again.
I even found a use for that vista disk, after all I needed s good coaster for my coffee cup.
TO ALL VISTA USERS, THERES STILL TIME TO UPGRADE TO XP! (yes I mean upgrade, I WILL argue that statement too )
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Umm... check the Internets and see if there is a way to downgrade your Vista install.. I know M$ supposedly included a built-in tool to do that for OEM manufacturers. And why did you buy XP? Wouldn't the license for Vista entitle you to run XP? IDK. Maybe not. If it did, however, than you could have gotten XP Corporate + keygen from somewhere, and used your Vista disk as insurance against any legal action. But perhaps that wouldn't work. But c'mon, it's not like you're also running Vista... :sigh: Any ppl have insight into the legal aspects of running pirated XP to replace your legal Vista?
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Vista is working fine for me...very pleased with it.
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Umm... check the Internets and see if there is a way to downgrade your Vista install.. I know M$ supposedly included a built-in tool to do that for OEM manufacturers. And why did you buy XP? Wouldn't the license for Vista entitle you to run XP? IDK. Maybe not. If it did, however, than you could have gotten XP Corporate + keygen from somewhere, and used your Vista disk as insurance against any legal action. But perhaps that wouldn't work. But c'mon, it's not like you're also running Vista... :sigh: Any ppl have insight into the legal aspects of running pirated XP to replace your legal Vista?
I would also be very interested in knowing any details regarding this.
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Umm... check the Internets and see if there is a way to downgrade your Vista install.. I know M$ supposedly included a built-in tool to do that for OEM manufacturers. And why did you buy XP? Wouldn't the license for Vista entitle you to run XP? IDK. Maybe not. If it did, however, than you could have gotten XP Corporate + keygen from somewhere, and used your Vista disk as insurance against any legal action. But perhaps that wouldn't work. But c'mon, it's not like you're also running Vista... :sigh: Any ppl have insight into the legal aspects of running pirated XP to replace your legal Vista?
Nope no way in a solar lifetime to uninstall vista, it came with the computer, if I'd had upgraded from xp to vista then their might have been a uninstall, but on a new computer your sol.
I bought a copy of xp cause the license codes for vista only work on vista, unlike the old xp codes that are basically reusable. The main reason I don't go find a downloadable version of XP is that even if the keygens do work ( most are all used up anyway) M/S has a list of all the xp codes they approve, and their validation check tool that you must install before any updates looks at the typed in code, vs the code line which contains the real code, if they don't match, you don't download anything.
Its ok though, if my next computer is made by M/S I can put this xp on that too, no matter what o/s is on it.
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Vista is working fine for me...very pleased with it.
I was too for the first 2 months. then the problems started. Which vista do you have? mine was home basic.
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I hear alot of **** about Vista, and alot of good things to.
My dad just got a new family PC (that i cant play games on, or download anything...o.0 ) and its vista. Like anything new,... its new and different to control. Its ok but XP is better. I should spend more tiem on Vista tho, but hell, what can i do on dial up, and that im allowed?
Vista did make some good improvements, mostly visual and some was the whole how the start bar comes out, and how it goes from folder to folder without hogging half the screen...
but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
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i migrated over to xp pro 64 already. i just just repartitioned and formated my linux hard drive and installed it there. i still got vista on the faster hard drive though. im eventually gonna remove it and but xp 64 there instead.
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even if the keygens do work ( most are all used up anyway) M/S has a list of all the xp codes they approve, and their validation check tool that you must install before any updates looks at the typed in code, vs the code line which contains the real code, if they don't match, you don't download anything.
Its ok though, if my next computer is made by M/S I can put this xp on that too, no matter what o/s is on it.
Well... to put it bluntly... I'm inquiring of the legal aspects of doing this. I own a legal copy of XP Pro. I use a pirated SP2 copy, with a keygen, and WGA crack. Works wonders. However, if one was to pursue this solution, you'd have to be careful to avoid the viruses etc. that are out there.
What I was asking was about the legal aspects, not if it was possible. It most certainly is possible. ;)
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
I find that hard to believe, since Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the XP/DirectX/something hack was found. Not to mention all the games using DirectX10.
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All of my games work fine on Vista with one exception. KOTOR II. Which pisses me off to no end, although KOTOR I is still better.
Overall, I'm pleased with Vista, especially after I turned User Account Control off, which was the bane of my existence when I first got it.
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
I find that hard to believe, since Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the XP/DirectX/something hack was found. Not to mention all the games using DirectX10.
No, Halo2 will play on XP, Halo 3 is Vista only! (Or Xbox360 only! Which I shall receive this Xmas! :yes: )
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
I find that hard to believe, since Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the XP/DirectX/something hack was found. Not to mention all the games using DirectX10.
No, Halo2 will play on XP, Halo 3 is Vista only! (Or Xbox360 only! Which I shall receive this Xmas! :yes: )
I'm pretty sure Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the workaround was found.
http://www.google.pt/search?hl=en&q=halo+2+vista+only&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
I find that hard to believe, since Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the XP/DirectX/something hack was found. Not to mention all the games using DirectX10.
No, Halo2 will play on XP, Halo 3 is Vista only! (Or Xbox360 only! Which I shall receive this Xmas! :yes: )
I'm pretty sure Halo 2 was only supposed to be played in Vista before the workaround was found.
http://www.google.pt/search?hl=en&q=halo+2+vista+only&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
You're right! My bad! :(
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The best (and only real) fix for Vista is format c:
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
:wtf:
I currently have installed on Home Vista laptop:
* Command and Conquer: The First Decade (all of the games run fine)
* FS2 SCP (flawlessly)
* SW: EAW
* SW: KOTOR
* SW: BG
I've not had a problem with any of these games on Vista.
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but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
:wtf:
I currently have installed on Home Vista laptop:
* Command and Conquer: The First Decade (all of the games run fine)
* FS2 SCP (flawlessly)
* SW: EAW
* SW: KOTOR
* SW: BG
I've not had a problem with any of these games on Vista.
Did you buy the Best of PC Star Wars games? Because I think that those were optimized for Vista and thats Why they work. They work for me. I think thats why KOTOR II doesn't work on Vista.
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what really buggered me about vista was the piss poor copy performance. it took 2 hours to copy over 11,000 files which took up about a hundred gigs, my routine d drive backup. doing the same thing in xp64 took about 30 minutes. excuse me i bought fast hard drives so i could copy stuff fast. vista didnt even see all 4 gigs of my memory. vista crashes the mobo+cpu monitoring util. xp64 does not. the xp pro 64 is a more recent version of xp based off a server codebase. rock solid and brutally fast (or rather drywall solid and as fast a blind, paraplegic dog, in non-microsoft terms, but better than vista).
vista looks pretty and seems different but its all just white wash. they merely changed alot of the terminology of things which are the same thing in xp, but named differently in vista. take a look at the control panel or the services. all this is meant to suck in the younger os users (thats most of you) by presenting something new and fresh for their generation, while its really the same piss-poor codebase with a cool looking (though no more functional) front end.
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what really buggered me about vista was the piss poor copy performance. it took 2 hours to copy over 11,000 files which took up about a hundred gigs, my routine d drive backup. doing the same thing in xp64 took about 30 minutes. excuse me i bought fast hard drives so i could copy stuff fast. vista didnt even see all 4 gigs of my memory. vista crashes the mobo+cpu monitoring util. xp64 does not. the xp pro 64 is a more recent version of xp based off a server codebase. rock solid and brutally fast (or rather drywall solid and as fast a blind, paraplegic dog, in non-microsoft terms, but better than vista).
vista looks pretty and seems different but its all just white wash. they merely changed alot of the terminology of things which are the same thing in xp, but named differently in vista. take a look at the control panel or the services. all this is meant to suck in the younger os users (thats most of you) by presenting something new and fresh for their generation, while its really the same piss-poor codebase with a cool looking (though no more functional) front end.
Vista *did* introduce a number of true and significant changes even under the hood.
The main problem though, that the majority of said changes is to facilitate the DRM scheme - in other words stuff that makes the whole thing painful for the user.
In doing so MS also broke a lot of all stuff, like the GDI (Graphics Device Interface). In other words MS once again wants to feed down their proprietary closed (...or more maliciously - vendor locked-in) stuff down your throat like they did with IE (...and look at all the "good" that one did us)!
The real pitty is, that Vista did have some novel and good security features, like its new memory protection scheme; or the sensible idea to *use* the RAM you have.
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On another tangent: before your rush off to get your Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (which you can do for free if you own a copy of Windows XP Professional), there are number of things to keep in mind:
- You need an x86-64 compatible processor:
- AMD
- AMD Athlon 64
- AMD Athlon 64 X2
- AMD Athlon 64 FX
- AMD Opteron
- AMD Turion 64
- AMD Turion 64 X2
- AMD Sempron
- Intel NetBurst
- Intel Xeon (some models since "Nocona")
- Intel Celeron D (some models since "Prescott")
- Intel Pentium 4 (some models since "Prescott")
- Intel Pentium D
- Intel Pentium Extreme Edition
- Intel Core microarchitecture
- Intel Xeon (all models since "Woodcrest")
- Intel Core 2 (Including Mobile processors since "Merom")
- Intel Pentium Dual Core (E2140 and E2160)
- Intel Celeron (Celeron 4x0; Celeron M 5xx)
- You may not find the appropriate 64-bit driver for all you devices.
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I hear alot of **** about Vista, and alot of good things to.
My dad just got a new family PC (that i cant play games on, or download anything...o.0 ) and its vista. Like anything new,... its new and different to control. Its ok but XP is better. I should spend more tiem on Vista tho, but hell, what can i do on dial up, and that im allowed?
Vista did make some good improvements, mostly visual and some was the whole how the start bar comes out, and how it goes from folder to folder without hogging half the screen...
but i hear Vista dont play Any games... (well most of the ones ppl have. halo 2 for instance, fS2) it just isnt compatable with most known games..which is a curious flaw....
Viats WILL play games, I have played FS, Halo, and Aces High on vista with no problems at all, my problem was the O/S and its compatibility with itself, I bought a M/S mouse for vista that didin' t work on vista LOL
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even if the keygens do work ( most are all used up anyway) M/S has a list of all the xp codes they approve, and their validation check tool that you must install before any updates looks at the typed in code, vs the code line which contains the real code, if they don't match, you don't download anything.
Its ok though, if my next computer is made by M/S I can put this xp on that too, no matter what o/s is on it.
Well... to put it bluntly... I'm inquiring of the legal aspects of doing this. I own a legal copy of XP Pro. I use a pirated SP2 copy, with a keygen, and WGA crack. Works wonders. However, if one was to pursue this solution, you'd have to be careful to avoid the viruses etc. that are out there.
What I was asking was about the legal aspects, not if it was possible. It most certainly is possible. ;)
Oh you can install any operating system that M/S makes on anything you want, weather or not you bought it or downloaded it, I have a stand alone with xp pro on it that is as legal as a 3 dollar bill. I only have the computer to play the original MYST.
Keygens and validation tools work only until M/S looks at whet you have on the Hdd and make a new code line to fight it. those come in the updates you get.
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what really buggered me about vista was the piss poor copy performance. it took 2 hours to copy over 11,000 files which took up about a hundred gigs, my routine d drive backup. doing the same thing in xp64 took about 30 minutes. excuse me i bought fast hard drives so i could copy stuff fast. vista didnt even see all 4 gigs of my memory. vista crashes the mobo+cpu monitoring util. xp64 does not. the xp pro 64 is a more recent version of xp based off a server codebase. rock solid and brutally fast (or rather drywall solid and as fast a blind, paraplegic dog, in non-microsoft terms, but better than vista).
vista looks pretty and seems different but its all just white wash. they merely changed alot of the terminology of things which are the same thing in xp, but named differently in vista. take a look at the control panel or the services. all this is meant to suck in the younger os users (thats most of you) by presenting something new and fresh for their generation, while its really the same piss-poor codebase with a cool looking (though no more functional) front end.
You had copy performance?
WOW your vista worked great:) it took me 3 days to copy a movie I had on a disk to another backup disk all in mpeg 4 format
All vista is is a version ox xp, 98se and me rooled into one, a pretty memory eating paint job and broken code lines, I can make vista ultimate look just like windows 98se, just wish I could make it work as good.
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Doesnt Vista maximise RAM usage since it got rid of the 4mb limit in XP? Doesnt that have some effect for gamers and video or graphic applications?
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Doesnt Vista maximise RAM usage since it got rid of the 4mb limit in XP? Doesnt that have some effect for gamers and video or graphic applications?
Yes, in fact, I can only access 3.5Gb of my 4 because I use XP Pro. But, to be honest, my biggest concern about Vista is the apparent abundance of confirmation requests and hardware compatibility.
I use some pretty wierd audio cards in my computer, an E-MU 1212 in one and an Audiophile in the other, they are both specialised music recording cards, and I greatly doubt I will see Vista-friendly drivers for some time.
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On another tangent: before your rush off to get your Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (which you can do for free if you own a copy of Windows XP Professional), there are number of things to keep in mind:
How?
Oh you can install any operating system that M/S makes on anything you want, weather or not you bought it or downloaded it, I have a stand alone with xp pro on it that is as legal as a 3 dollar bill. I only have the computer to play the original MYST.
Keygens and validation tools work only until M/S looks at whet you have on the Hdd and make a new code line to fight it. those come in the updates you get.
Eh, XP Corporate = no-activation, company version (eg, what a large company with 1,000 computers would purchase). So, as long as the keygen is good (and it is), and the WGA crack works (and it does), your golden. M$ has thanked me up and down 'till they're blue in the face for "purchasing" "genuine" M$ products. (Which I did, but they shouldn't be able to tell that based off of what I'm running on my comp.) Makes me :wakka:
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I use some pretty wierd audio cards in my computer, an E-MU 1212 in one and an Audiophile in the other, they are both specialised music recording cards, and I greatly doubt I will see Vista-friendly drivers for some time.
hehe, me too. I use a Hammerfall 9652. I dont know if it supports Vista but I do know it doesnt support QT7, and some games, annoyingly.
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I have had 2 problems with vista. The first was Grand Theft Auto San Andreas wouldn't run, but i fixed that easily. The second was my internet kept dropping off when using the dual gigabit ethernet connections as a router for another computer. Fixed that by buying a cheap switch.
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On another tangent: before your rush off to get your Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (which you can do for free if you own a copy of Windows XP Professional), there are number of things to keep in mind:
How?
Oh you can install any operating system that M/S makes on anything you want, weather or not you bought it or downloaded it, I have a stand alone with xp pro on it that is as legal as a 3 dollar bill. I only have the computer to play the original MYST.
Keygens and validation tools work only until M/S looks at whet you have on the Hdd and make a new code line to fight it. those come in the updates you get.
Eh, XP Corporate = no-activation, company version (eg, what a large company with 1,000 computers would purchase). So, as long as the keygen is good (and it is), and the WGA crack works (and it does), your golden. M$ has thanked me up and down 'till they're blue in the face for "purchasing" "genuine" M$ products. (Which I did, but they shouldn't be able to tell that based off of what I'm running on my comp.) Makes me :wakka:
As long as your wga is working brother I say good on ya, :) I have 3 ofthem and the keygen on a disk, but the keygen is for pro, and I wanted home, so I guess the main reason bought it is I have about as much download patience as I do for people that cut me off to make a left on red. thats why I have cable, but downloading an O/S is still beyond my level of waitingness LOL
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why would you want home over pro? pro is better.
Doesnt Vista maximise RAM usage since it got rid of the 4mb limit in XP? Doesnt that have some effect for gamers and video or graphic applications?
Yes, in fact, I can only access 3.5Gb of my 4 because I use XP Pro. But, to be honest, my biggest concern about Vista is the apparent abundance of confirmation requests and hardware compatibility.
I use some pretty wierd audio cards in my computer, an E-MU 1212 in one and an Audiophile in the other, they are both specialised music recording cards, and I greatly doubt I will see Vista-friendly drivers for some time.
the vendor said id have no probem running the copy of vista 32 i was gonna buy with all 4 gigs on my system. but i could only get 3.2 gigs to work. also the 640 or whatever megs on the video card ate up that much address space. i had assumed it borrowed the server memory model (which iirc supported a theoretical 2xb max). so had no problem dropping the cash on that. boy, was i pissed off when i broke the shinkwrap, installed it and saw a number less than 4.
as far as audio cards go. ive had about the same luck under xp pro 64 as with vista 32. all creative drivers were crap. but that seems to be the state of sound cards these days. my solution, pull the card and enable the sound on the board. good thing i like my music kvlt, cause it sounds like **** :D
does anyone else hate the way vista deals with sound? one of windows actual good features since 95 has been its mixer. it was simple and to the point. but now all the sudden they thought they could improve something they did right the first time. sure the could have improved it, perhaps adding a button to toggle recording and playback, rather than go into the menu, open props and toggle a radio button. that would have been an upgrade. instead they come up with this elaborite mess from hell.
each in and out has its own damn menu, so you cant cross-compare levels, or open more than one playback or recording line at a time. also actually getting it to record anything is impossible. i wanted to fraps a video the other day and i had put a playlist into winamp, and loaded my game, set up the shot and began frapsing. pulled the perfect manuver, right on cue with right in sync with the drum intro to glorification of the black god, only to find that no sound was recorded from either source (both were enabled) if at least the damn game sound woulda recorded i coulda edited in the sound, but that was gone too. cant say if this is the really bad sound drivers or ms's bull**** idea of an interface, or perhaps its drm interference. any way its bull****.
what really buggered me about vista was the piss poor copy performance. it took 2 hours to copy over 11,000 files which took up about a hundred gigs, my routine d drive backup. doing the same thing in xp64 took about 30 minutes. excuse me i bought fast hard drives so i could copy stuff fast. vista didnt even see all 4 gigs of my memory. vista crashes the mobo+cpu monitoring util. xp64 does not. the xp pro 64 is a more recent version of xp based off a server codebase. rock solid and brutally fast (or rather drywall solid and as fast a blind, paraplegic dog, in non-microsoft terms, but better than vista).
vista looks pretty and seems different but its all just white wash. they merely changed alot of the terminology of things which are the same thing in xp, but named differently in vista. take a look at the control panel or the services. all this is meant to suck in the younger os users (thats most of you) by presenting something new and fresh for their generation, while its really the same piss-poor codebase with a cool looking (though no more functional) front end.
Vista *did* introduce a number of true and significant changes even under the hood.
The main problem though, that the majority of said changes is to facilitate the DRM scheme - in other words stuff that makes the whole thing painful for the user.
In doing so MS also broke a lot of all stuff, like the GDI (Graphics Device Interface). In other words MS once again wants to feed down their proprietary closed (...or more maliciously - vendor locked-in) stuff down your throat like they did with IE (...and look at all the "good" that one did us)!
The real pitty is, that Vista did have some novel and good security features, like its new memory protection scheme; or the sensible idea to *use* the RAM you have.
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On another tangent: before your rush off to get your Windows XP Professional 64-bit Edition (which you can do for free if you own a copy of Windows XP Professional), there are number of things to keep in mind:
- You need an x86-64 compatible processor:
- AMD
- AMD Athlon 64
- AMD Athlon 64 X2
- AMD Athlon 64 FX
- AMD Opteron
- AMD Turion 64
- AMD Turion 64 X2
- AMD Sempron
- Intel NetBurst
- Intel Xeon (some models since "Nocona")
- Intel Celeron D (some models since "Prescott")
- Intel Pentium 4 (some models since "Prescott")
- Intel Pentium D
- Intel Pentium Extreme Edition
- Intel Core microarchitecture
- Intel Xeon (all models since "Woodcrest")
- Intel Core 2 (Including Mobile processors since "Merom")
- Intel Pentium Dual Core (E2140 and E2160)
- Intel Celeron (Celeron 4x0; Celeron M 5xx)
- You may not find the appropriate 64-bit driver for all you devices.
i found 64 bit xp drivers for everything in my case. the only really crappy drivers seem to be creative's xfi drivers, which periodically stop working for no apparent reason. but of course the vista drivers do the same thing. the card actually works better under linux. most of the top end chips, mobo chipsets, etc have 64 bit support anyway. my old computer could run a 64 bit os just the same. yes 64 bit has a number of things that must be taken into consideration. but its no more a task than refamiliarizing yourself with the current technology every time you build a new computer.
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Question: Games would run faster on XP than they would on Vista, right? But by how much?
Thing is... I'm finally getting an Intel-based Mac, so I'll obviously be able to run Windoze. I'm completely familiar with XP... but Vista I've never touched - which is actually why I'm interested in getting Vista (I know... twisted, right?). Word on the street is, Vista works fabulously well with mac hardware (I'm a bit skeptical but I'll let you know). So basically, I'm wondering if -when- Vista actually works (instead of crashing and burning your computer into a painful and fiery death...) what are the speed differences between it and XP?
Another quick question: I'm totally out of the loop with DX10, but I've heard there's XP drivers out there for DX10. But to get DX10 on XP, I'd have to have the 64-bit XP?
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OK, I've been running Vista 64-bit for several months now.
A. - Most of my games (and my collection is huge) run fine in vista, including Freespace SCP.
B. - One thing that helps these games run in vista is the fact that I loaded directx 9C (yeah I know vista has directx 9L (legacy) but it's not the same thing) M$ just released a new version fo directx 9c a couple of weeks ago, you can get it at downloads.microsoft.com, load it in vista to have better luck running older games.
C. - I have my system set up in a dual boot configuration with XP 32-bit and Vista 64-bit. If I can't get it to run in Vista, I just boot XP :)
Note: vista 32 bit, like all other 32 bit OSes, has the limitation to see only up to 3 gigs of memory. If you want your OS to see more that that, it has to be a 64-bit OS. There is no workaround to that.
hip63 :P
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I've heard tell that the 64Bit XP can handle 4Gig+ of memory, but there's still hardware issues?
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3.2 gb :D
and the os doesnt have to be 64 bit to see more memory. 32 bit linux sees it all, as does some versions of windows server.
of course vista supports most games, thats part of the whitewash i mentioned.
my points are vista is so poor at general operating system tasks, such as copying files. its good for your average user, the kind of person who actually uses the my documents folder or has ever lost data cause they didnt back up throughly. but for your a power user, the kind of person who would run as administrator or root, and likes control over everything in the os. then vista is a bloody nightmare.
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I've heard tell that the 64Bit XP can handle 4Gig+ of memory, but there's still hardware issues?
3.2 gb :D
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That's a bugger :(
Yeah, I like to have a lot of flexibility in my system, I've always been an optimisation nut, I picked up the habit back on Win 95 and never really lost it, I shut down everything I'm not needing at the time (and, inevitably, Microsoft Messenger which keeps replacing itself in the startup list whenever it updates). I've even been known to shut down explorer while playing a game if it pre-loads most of the content.
It's probably overkill on a Core2Due 6600 ;)
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Nuke you have to explain to me why XP Pro is better than XP home, since after all the updates from M/S it says Windows XP on the screen, no home or pro, and besides for what I do I don't need any "extra" security from the O/S manufacturer.
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you know what, i dont have a clue. i think it has something to do with networking :D
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xp home can not be joined to domains, only workgroups, xp pro can be joined to domains
hip63 :p
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XP Home also has a certain service permanently activated, I forget which one... something stupid that can usually be disabled for an increase in security.
Anyways: Hack to change XP Home setup disk to XP Pro (http://www.technipages.com/hack-to-change-windows-xp-home-to-windows-xp-professional.html) (I have no clue if this works, haven't tried).
Google search for finding differences between XP Home and Pro (http://www.google.com/search?q=xp+home+xp+pro)
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you know what, i dont have a clue. i think it has something to do with networking :D
Yea right networking :D
If thats the only thing then I'm glad as h*** I didn't waste the extra money on pro. The only networking problems I have EVER had is when the router quit and I hit it with a rock. :)
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XP Home also has a certain service permanently activated, I forget which one... something stupid that can usually be disabled for an increase in security.
Anyways: Hack to change XP Home setup disk to XP Pro (http://www.technipages.com/hack-to-change-windows-xp-home-to-windows-xp-professional.html) (I have no clue if this works, haven't tried).
Google search for finding differences between XP Home and Pro (http://www.google.com/search?q=xp+home+xp+pro)
Ok JR I read the links, everything pro has over XP home I have on 3rd party disk anyway LOL.
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there it is, xp home wont run 2 cpus (and i think dual cores either)
also i do use terminal services from time to time.
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Vista is working fine for me...very pleased with it.
x64 bit is mad stable for me. only have problems when I'm trying to experiment with my Overclocks.
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there it is, xp home wont run 2 cpus (and i think dual cores either)
also i do use terminal services from time to time.
Mines running fine 3gig duel core. picks it up and everything.
Just turn off hyper threading :)
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... so... you're running on one core. ;) I don't think you wanted that.
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do you get 2 cpu monitors in the performance tab of your device manager?
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I get two monitors on the core2duo on XP Home.
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... so... you're running on one core. ;) I don't think you wanted that.
Yea found that out and turned it back on
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do you get 2 cpu monitors in the performance tab of your device manager?
Yes nuke I get 2 cpu monitors, both working as advertised.
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If you have an OEM install of Vista, there's a "built in" hack to upgrade to any version you want, as long as it's the same bits, 32 or 64.
First thing, make a copy of the OEM folder that's found here. c:\Windows\system32\OEM
Second, "find" an OEM key for your brand of computer and version of Vista you want to install. That's the key a company like Dell uses to install, say, Vista Ultimate on ALL their PCs, NOT the key on the COA pasted on the outside of the PC, which is unique.
Third, get a Windows Vista Anytime Upgrade DVD, 32 or 64 bit version to match your original OEM install.
Fourth, download the free program, vLite. Use it to make your own Vista install DVD from the Upgrade DVD, leaving out crap like Windows Defender, stuff for languages you don't know, drivers for hardware you don't have/will never have/can't upgrade (laptops), pre-disable UAC and Simple (stupid) Folder View, hiding filename extentions and other things you'd normally have to fix after installing.
With vLite, you're making a DVD to install ONE version of Vista. Retail and Upgrade Vista DVDs actually contain ALL versions of Vista, even the "N" versions that don't pre-install Media Player and Internet Explorer. The version that gets installed from those discs is controlled by the product key you use.
Fifth. Now that you have your shiny new Vista DVD-R (or DVD+R) and a wiped and formatted hard drive, boot off the disc and install Vista, entering your OEM key when prompted.
After install is all done, you can check the properties on My Computer and it'll tell you you have 15 days to activate Windows. The fix is simple, copy the OEM folder back where it was, then hunt up the script command to reinstall the OEM license file. Go through the Start menu to Command Prompt, right click it then click Run as Administrator, then enter the script command. IT WILL NOT WORK IF YOU DON'T DO THE RUN AS ADMINISTRATOR THING, EVEN IF YOU ARE LOGGED INTO THE ADMINISTRATOR ACCOUNT!
This is a feature that's built into Vista! Each OEM's license file is IDENTICAL for ALL versions of Vista! There's also something in the BIOS of PCs running OEM installs of Vista, so you CANNOT use your OEM folder on a PC built from parts. Ain't Microsoft shooting themselves in their foot a lovely thing? MS can't blacklist those OEM keys without pissing off millions of consumers. Why didn't MS do unique OEM license files for each version of Vista?
The only thing you have to "find" that's not provided with your PC is the OEM key for the desired version of Vista for your brand of PC. OK, you have to know the exact command for the script to reinstall the license file, but the script file is included with Vista- therefore the script file itself is not a tool for circumventing blah blah blah, unless the DOJ wants to arrest MS for providing an illegal hacking tool. :lol:
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I just upgraded from Vista to XP, why would I want to install another version of vista?
Just watch this and understand, I thought this was funny until I bought a computer running the lowest form of vista life I could get
http://www.theblimp.blip.tv/scripts/flash/showplayer.swf?autostart=true&enablejs=true&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Ftheblimp%2Eblip%2Etv%2Frss&file=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheblimp%2Eblip%2Etv%2Frss%2Fflash%2F345491&showplayerpath=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Etheblimp%2Eblip%2Etv%2Fscripts%2Fflash%2Fshowplayer%2Eswf
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@Wolfen: lol!
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:) funny isn't it, too bad most of it is true. I have to disagree with the sinkhole of support though, at least if you get in a sinkhole theres usually help to get you out.
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yea but not from microsoft. internetforums, as full of lifeless filth as they are, are by far more usefull for troubleshooting windows problems. :D
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Yea but their great grand forums couldn't explain why my M/S mouse certified for vista worked on everything including a old laptop with windows 95, but not vista, I even went as far as emailing everybody there and the only responce I got from anybody was the automated email reply thing that doesn't tell you anything.
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the kind of person who actually uses the my documents folder
I'm never using them "My..." folders ever again. :mad:
What happens when the taskbar mysteriously disappears after startup for no good reason and I spend so much time trying to fix the error via user accounts and repair installs... there goes all my pictures and other stuff that I find important, but didn't realise it till it was too late.
All that evidence of smashing and bashing Cross in NFSMW... GONE :mad: :sigh:
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Been there, done that, got XP, fixed problem
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XP has the "My" folders as well. I just never, EVER choose to "make my documents and settings private" - ie, make it so that another admin account on my compy can't access those file.. I'm the only one (for the most part) who uses my computer, that'd be just dumb.
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sometimes i wish you could just flip off multi user support. good idea for a family pc of a buisness network. but not for a stand alon geek computer. my cats do not need their own accounts on my computer :D
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I have one acct and one acct only on this computer, me and the wife use this computer, both boys have their own computers running through a router, so they appear as the same ip address as I do right now, but its 3 seperate computers :) vista wouldn't let me do that, I like it this way cause it has some really nice advantages :) theres some disadvantages too but the former outweighs the latter LOL.
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XP Always has two accounts... unless you sign in as "Administrator" and delete the other account created at first boot.
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And the guest acct is sooooooo easy to get rid of :)
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Hmm? I never turned mine on.
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Neither did I, I just plain deleted it files and all, no need for it on this little 3 computer lan in my house :)