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Hosted Projects - FS2 Required => FreeSpace Conversion => Silent Threat: Reborn => Topic started by: Vidmaster on December 18, 2007, 07:31:09 am
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Are the Pirates still in there?
I always thought of that mission as extremly misplaced, Space Piracy just doesn't fit in the Freespace Universe. They only appear in one ST mission and that one could be removed without harming the (not very good) story.
Even the wiki says that most people (me too) consider pirates as non-canon (and even don't like the idea at all).
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Well I think they are just re-making the missions to make it look better, and not changing any storyline.
You know how they did that to Counter-Strike (1.6), they upgraded it to counter-strike source. Same maps, but better graphics. (Sorry if you don't know what counter-strike is)
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I'm not a big fan of the pirates in that mission either, but they were actually used reasonably well there, unlike just about everywhere else I've seen them. They wanted to steal anything they could take but had no real planning (they accidentally blew themselves up before the mission, probably because they didn't know what the cargo contained) and a fairly small force with little in the way of advanced tech. I would not have put them in if I had designed the thing, but it's still probably the best use of pirates I've seen in a Freespace mission.
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We kept the pirate mission in the campaign. We only discarded one mission from the original Silent Threat storyline, although we redesigned another two so much that they're only slightly recognizable from the originals. The rest of the missions are still present in recognizable form, including this one. It was pretty decent, so we kept it more or less the same, while cleaning up the gameplay.
One thing we tried to do in ST:R is to make sure every mission had a reason for existing. For this mission, the reason was that the GTA and PVN had just won a major but difficult victory over the Shivans in the system, so there was a power vacuum. Control of the sector was extremely tenuous, so the time was ideal for a major pirate strike. A GTI Special Ops squadron was dispatched because of the precariousness of the situation and the sensitivity of the cargo.
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Is the ion field still there?
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No.
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No? Excellent. That was a pain, that field was. Is the entire mission still there?
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Yeah, most of it.
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Yeah, most of it.
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I find that mission irritating. :sigh:
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Silent Threat is irritating :mad: ...and boring.
ST: REBORN, WE BELIEVE IN YOU! :yes:
You will make ST what it should have been :nod:
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Silent Threat is irritating :mad: ...and boring.
ST: REBORN, WE BELIEVE IN YOU! :yes:
You will make ST what it should have been :nod:
Not to mention that Silent Threat's buggy in certain areas (see my Jotunheim post).
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Not to mention that Silent Threat's buggy in certain areas (see my Jotunheim post).
make that A lot
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I'm not a big fan of the pirates in that mission either, but they were actually used reasonably well there, unlike just about everywhere else I've seen them. They wanted to steal anything they could take but had no real planning (they accidentally blew themselves up before the mission, probably because they didn't know what the cargo contained) and a fairly small force with little in the way of advanced tech. I would not have put them in if I had designed the thing, but it's still probably the best use of pirates I've seen in a Freespace mission.
Oh, wait, yeah...forgot you think Derelict sucks.
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Space Piracy just doesn't fit in the Freespace Universe.
Because of the massive economic and political instability in the GTA after the Great War combined with severe depletion of their military resources AND the appearent ubiquitous availability of various sorts of space craft, why wouldn't there be piracy?
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and pirates using state-of-the-art tech? and anyway, which all recourses and industry focused on a long war with the Vasudans, then suddenly almost facing annihilation... ...GTA would not tolerate Piracy for long.
Also, keep in mind that we know very little about the game world outside of the military. I guess spacecraft are way to expensive for anybody else but the government and the mega cooperations! It's not like having a car...