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Title: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Kosh on December 20, 2007, 08:18:40 pm
More specifically the one about a nuke in every home, or something like that.

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Flipside on December 20, 2007, 08:29:23 pm
That is both incredibly impressive and incredibly scary at the same time....
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Hazaanko on December 20, 2007, 08:53:52 pm
The future of energy lies in capacitors man.  Capacitors.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Rictor on December 20, 2007, 09:01:18 pm
I estimate that the time it will take for something to go catastrophically wrong, either intentionally or as a result of user stupidity, will be measured in miliseconds. If people can't be trusted with, say, knives, I hardly think that mini nuclear reactors are a good idea.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Bobboau on December 20, 2007, 09:19:06 pm
"Toshiba expects to install the first reactor in Japan"

good luck selling that.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: neo_hermes on December 20, 2007, 09:24:11 pm
:wakka: :nervous: :warp:

edit: ok i wonder what would happen if you put the worlds smallest linux computer with this mini- reactor..hmmm
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: jr2 on December 21, 2007, 01:44:32 am
Hmm.. power source for spaceships, anyone?
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Nuke on December 21, 2007, 05:30:47 am
cool, i bet the terrorists will buy a bunch of these :D
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Shade on December 21, 2007, 06:25:05 am
I'm still waiting around for the real micro nuclear reactors, the kind they have in the foundation books. I need nuclear power for my cordless mouse so I never have to charge the batteries :)
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Admiral_Stones on December 21, 2007, 07:02:59 am
Hmm, reminds me of Fallout 1 & 2. These were great games.

Shade, your quite medieval, Fallout had microfusioncells :D
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Dark RevenantX on December 22, 2007, 09:58:12 pm
Wonder what the price tag is.  Starting at $250,000, perhaps?

Edit: Holy God that Clive Barker's Jericho ad lags my computer more than anything else I've ever seen.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: jr2 on December 23, 2007, 01:28:22 am
In case anyone hasn't noticed, THESE ARE FOR ENTIRE CITY BLOCK NOT FOR PERSONAL USE.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Admiral_Stones on December 23, 2007, 03:03:54 am
Pfff. If I would install it into my chamber, our fuse wouldn't blow up every time the dishwasher and water boiler are turned on :sigh:
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: TrashMan on December 23, 2007, 05:19:51 am
What's next? Nuclear powered cars?

Oy, can't wait for the next car crash. IT would be a BLAST! :lol:
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: jr2 on December 23, 2007, 07:21:31 am
Heh... it's the NIMBY syndrome.  Real nuclear power plants aren't dangerous unless you're really, really stupid with them, with a few design flaws thrown in (read: Chernobyl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster)) or really, really, unlucky, with a few design flaws thrown in (read: Three Mile Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident)).
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: BengalTiger on December 23, 2007, 06:27:11 pm
But you're never sure if there is a design flaw untill it's too late to matter it was there.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Dark RevenantX on December 23, 2007, 06:55:14 pm
These reactors are small enough that you could probably outrun the radiation's lethal range.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Mefustae on December 23, 2007, 06:59:31 pm
These reactors are small enough that you could probably outrun the radiation's lethal range.
"The reactor is melting down!! Walk for your lives!!!"
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: jr2 on December 24, 2007, 02:07:48 am
These reactors are small enough that you could probably outrun the radiation's lethal range.
"The reactor is melting down!! Walk for your lives!!!"

:wakka:
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: karajorma on December 27, 2007, 10:41:57 am
Heh... it's the NIMBY syndrome.  Real nuclear power plants aren't dangerous unless you're really, really stupid with them, with a few design flaws thrown in (read: Chernobyl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster))

Chernobyl is about as stupid as you can get with a nuclear reactor. Everyone involved would have gotten Darwin Awards if it weren't for the fact that innocent people can't be injured or the entry is disqualified.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Flaser on December 27, 2007, 11:12:29 am
Old news.
Great idea.

....and terrorist have way better sources of either radioactive material for dirty bombs; or true fissionables for a nuke.

The later is unlikely given, that it's pretty hard to put together a viable atomic bomb. (Viable in my book means, you, as a terrorist organization can effectively deploy it. There go all the easy to make 0,5 ton pure uranium bombs - which are "easy" to make if you can afford the astronomical cost of refining weapons grade uranium (90% U235). Plutonium bombs are very difficult to make as there are a million things that could go wrong with the implosion device).

This thing would be likely guarded, and the self-regulating; self-contained nature means, you can easily keep it under a very heavy security by denying access to anyone. Things like a 150 ton concrete lid that you can only lift with a special vehicle come to my mind.

You're UN inspectors? Sure, where is you goddamn monster crane to take off the lid? (I wonder how you'd talk yourself out of this one).

Actually all the movie-plot threats and the hype surrounding terrorism is just that - security theater. Read up on it and despair.

Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Admiral_Stones on January 10, 2008, 06:08:26 am
No steal it.

In USA there was a reported case of a uranium theft.
Know how the thief accomplished that? He walked in, toke a bit and walked away.
There were no guards, no fences, no security cameras.
Although this is commercial grade Uranium (40% U-235, for power plants and such), you can refine this pretty easily in a homemade laboratory and very strong acids.
Although it's still pretty hard to make a bomb out of it, you can easily figure how (relatively) easy it is to get the materials for it.
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Colonol Dekker on January 10, 2008, 07:08:47 am
If Doc brown can get it, anyone can....... :nod:
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: TrashMan on January 10, 2008, 11:15:48 am
garbage is the uranium of the future....let's hope!

We'll have a clean world..clean of garbage, and probably clean of humanity too!
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Ace on January 12, 2008, 08:11:41 pm
If Doc brown can get it, anyone can....... :nod:

But he got it from the Libyans :p
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 13, 2008, 04:56:21 am
"Toshiba expects to install the first reactor in Japan"

good luck selling that.

:lol:

And you guys beat me to the BTTF reference, but all I have to say is:

(http://fusion-industries2.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1fusion.jpg)

Call me when it's ready. :p
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Kosh on January 13, 2008, 05:42:23 am
BTTF?
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: WMCoolmon on January 13, 2008, 02:24:25 pm
(http://www.filmfashion.nl/covers/back%20to%20the%20future%202.jpg)
Title: Re: One of those 1950's crazy predictions may yet come true
Post by: Kosh on January 13, 2008, 07:12:31 pm
Oh right, that.