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Title: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 25, 2007, 02:36:31 pm
the FOW replacement for the Myrmodon :D

(http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1096/falcon1wd3.th.png) (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falcon1wd3.png)

Still got a lot of work on the texture and adding of the guns and some minor greeble and cockpit :P
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 25, 2007, 03:18:49 pm
Its nice, but it doesnt look freespacey at all. try rounding it a bit more like the perseus
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: BlackDove on December 25, 2007, 03:25:58 pm
Looks like it came out of Wing Commander, and into Star Wars, trying to jump to Battlestar Galactica.

Send it back to the hell it came from.

Nice model though. Nothing to do with the Myrmidon or any FS ship however.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 25, 2007, 03:52:04 pm
This is 20-25 years after Capella fighter :D
I guess I could have used that other Perseus-wannabe model for the next space Superiority, but that would be one perseus-like caft on the rooster too many :lol:
Or I could have made a new model completely, but FS2 is not the only game I'm modding and time is My Preciouussss...
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 25, 2007, 04:09:27 pm
Looks a bit like a Rapier crossed with a Pirhana  :D
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 25, 2007, 05:42:35 pm
Which is exactly the reason i dont like it
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 25, 2007, 05:58:28 pm
I dunno... a few tweaks here and there, be great in a WC-verse, but doesn't seem to fit the fat and chunky fs2-verse.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Snail on December 25, 2007, 06:57:37 pm
Good model but no orgasm FreeSpace.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hades on December 25, 2007, 07:46:42 pm
Nice model, but it looks NOTHING like a FreeSpace 2 fighter. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 25, 2007, 09:06:26 pm
Just cut the missle banks off the perseus and throw em on the ...things... sticking out of the wings
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Warp Shadow on December 25, 2007, 11:54:13 pm
It is definitely a nice ship but I don't think it really fits with the rest of the freespace universe.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 26, 2007, 12:15:13 am
Would look good in fury 3...
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: asyikarea51 on December 26, 2007, 03:34:33 am
Don't know if I've said this before, and I'm worried that I might offend you, but I'll just say it.

I personally feel that you're far better off doing the wham-bam capital ships that rain hell on the enemy rather than small fighters. Or maybe I'm just not fond of square noses, or.... oh well, nevermind. I guess drawn art isn't equal to a 3D model.

Same thing, I like the design but it really doesn't suit the FS theme.

For me I'd put the missile launchers on those black darkened areas on the wings. Fire away!!! :lol:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Getter Robo G on December 26, 2007, 07:41:52 am
Well I like it!

(notes, it is very similar to the Phoenix though? Did you use it as a base?)  :yes:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 26, 2007, 07:45:07 am
Current textures on it are not very Freespacey, but they make a workd of difference.

I've yet to put guns on it and some minor greebling and well..the texture is a WIP so it's not going to end up looking exactly like this.

While it may not exactly conform to the looks of most FS2 fighters, the question is - does it have to?
What do the Apollo and Myrmodon have in common anyway? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Jake2447 on December 26, 2007, 02:31:50 pm
I woulkd agree about the textures.
I think the model would fit better in FS if you extended the wings, gave them a bit of drop and sweep them back a bit.  Also, make the intakes larger, aka into missile banks.  Then shorten the nose and add a missile bay/cannons under it.
Just some suggestions.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 26, 2007, 03:41:46 pm
UPDATE:
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9043/falcon1gx2.th.png) (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falcon1gx2.png)

Textures really DO make a big difference.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 26, 2007, 06:29:14 pm
Thats definately much better, but im still not fond of the rectangular intake vents at the end of the wings
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 26, 2007, 06:53:05 pm
I could turn those into missile launchers :P
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hades on December 26, 2007, 07:01:17 pm
Still does not look FreeSpacey IMO.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 26, 2007, 07:05:27 pm
Bah, it looks great except for the intake vents.. :\
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Mad Bomber on December 26, 2007, 07:07:22 pm
Still does not look anything remotely Freespacey. Looks like either something from Wing Commander or an Outcast ship from Freelancer.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 26, 2007, 10:01:45 pm
I really like this ship, but that  nose gun seems a bit odd.

Me, personally, I'd:
a:) the top intake, remove the neck from it, so that it's flush with the top of the hull.
b:)enlarge the intakes considerably
c.) put the rudders on the intakes instead and make them a bit more upright.
d.)the side mount gun placements are good, guns themselves would get replaced with some pre-made higher def ones
e.)Looks like it's missing a front support bar across the canopy.
f.)perhaps raise the canopy up just a bit.
g.)the wingtip thing on the outside (not the side thats connected to the wing) could use some camfering.
h.)perhaps use those wingtip things are part of the engine system?

Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 27, 2007, 06:28:58 am
Remove the neck from the top intake? Hmm...might work....I'll see how it looks.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 27, 2007, 10:29:42 am
You were right - It does look better without that neck.

(http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5/falcon2qy9.th.png) (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falcon2qy9.png)


Allmost ready. Hmmmm..should I change anything else on it?
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 27, 2007, 02:32:14 pm
I liked the cockpit better black... at least make it clear
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 27, 2007, 03:00:19 pm
This better? ;7
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3769/falcon3aw5.th.png) (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=falcon3aw5.png)
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hades on December 27, 2007, 05:03:26 pm
It still does not look like it fits in with the FS universe.
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 27, 2007, 05:10:54 pm
Oh go suck on an exhaust vent hades :P
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Scooby_Doo on December 27, 2007, 05:34:17 pm
Please either upload or backup a copy of what you have now before doing any more reconstructive work with it  :nod:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hades on December 27, 2007, 06:02:54 pm
Oh go suck on an exhaust vent hades :P
Go shove a Helios up your malaka (malaka is Greek BTW).
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: Hellstryker on December 27, 2007, 07:09:39 pm
No thank you, i prefer not having anything docked with my ganymede  :shaking:
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: TrashMan on December 30, 2007, 02:35:10 pm
K.. the ship is fully complete and I'm assembling a huge honkin' VP with all ships needed for the next part of FOW :P

Somebody asked for a Whitehall version with cruiser bay paths? I did add those paths but the restrict arrival paths won't work since it's limited to 10 paths..

And the Whitehall has 4 fighterbays + 1 cruiser bay = 17 paths :P So the last 7 don't show up. That limit is for the code wizzard to increase :(
Title: Re: GTF Falcon (WIP)
Post by: asyikarea51 on December 31, 2007, 07:25:43 am
Meh, still doesn't look Freespacey. But it looks a lot nicer now. :)  :yes:

Apollo and Myrmidon? Erm, space superiority? I too think those two have something similar, but combat role aside, I don't know what that something is...