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Title: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 05, 2008, 04:26:59 pm
This is what passes for winter where I live.  Waves a plenty:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3505.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3553.jpg)

So much for keeping my feet dry:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3609.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3662.jpg)

"Welcome to this tour of the Bay.  I hope everyone ate a nice hearty breakfast this morning."

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3676.jpg)

One hopes the pilot boat can navigate....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3734.jpg)

Watch it.... watch iiit....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3739.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3752.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3766.jpg)

Run for it!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3813.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3851.jpg)

Rain now so heavy I have to beat a retreat...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/StormyWaves/Storm-3938.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 05, 2008, 04:46:31 pm
wow
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: IceFire on January 05, 2008, 09:41:45 pm
Nice pictures...but thats not winter! :)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Prophet on January 06, 2008, 02:55:56 am
I hate to rain on your parade ( :lol: :lol: :lol: see what I did there!) but that's just bad weather with some big waves. And I hear big waves aren't all that uncommon in oceans...

And IceFire is quite right... Somehow it seems so ridiculous when its above zero and now snow and people go "nasty winter we have boy howdy" :rolleyes:
And in the movies people are dressed like Michelin men and are shivering all pale, "OMG it must be ten below in here!". It makes me throw bottles at the screen. And then I'm depressed that I didn't cause any pain to them.

But I guess all people can't have real winters... I hate being cold. But there's just something refreshing in having a walk outside when its > -20. The sun shines and gets amplified by the snow. And everything is dead quiet. Only your boots churning on the snow, and your wheezing breath... Too bad this winter sucks. We have barely had little under -15 here so far. And no snow. God damn global warming...


Anyway. While those are impressive waves, the pictures make me feel incredibly uncomfortable. They are just reeking of "miserable". But since the gulls are still flying, the weather can't be too bad...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 06, 2008, 09:10:40 am
Ah, but I said "This is what passes for winter where I live." :)  This was actually a very damaging storm, with 70 knot winds and very heavy rains.  Some major bridges (though not the Golden Gate seen here) closed as the wind was powerful enough to flip over trucks crossing them.

I grew up in Boston, anyway.  I deliberately moved away from there to escape winter. Boston can sit at -20C for weeks.  Not for me, thanks. :)  Now I get to call Bostonians when it is -20 there and +15 here and tell them how nice out it is. ;)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Mika on January 06, 2008, 09:37:05 am
Some of those pictures are really good. Congratulations to the cameraman, places well chosen.

Mika
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: IceFire on January 06, 2008, 10:11:43 am
Don't let my initial comment detract from the superb photography.  Brilliant shots!  Particularly given how quickly waves like those come and go. 70kts is 130kph roughly which is pretty strong.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Mika on January 06, 2008, 10:39:50 am
I would actually be interested in the F/# and the exposure time of these shots, along with the ISO sensitivity. Would you happen to remember?

Mika
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 06, 2008, 11:37:07 am
I'm from Edmonton.  Let's not talk about winter, alrighty? =)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 06, 2008, 12:32:40 pm
ISO 400, f8,  exposure time varying around 1/320.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 06, 2008, 03:20:23 pm
Here in NS we've had -15 or below for the last week.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 06, 2008, 05:57:02 pm
It is only going to be +11 here the next two days... BRRRRR.... ;)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 06, 2008, 06:05:42 pm
Here in NS we've had -15 or below for the last week.
It is only going to be +11 here the next two days... BRRRRR.... ;)
Pussy...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Snail on January 06, 2008, 06:08:22 pm
I remember it was like -8 in Korea and the teacher made the kids go outside. ****ing A. We were huddling up together like penguins and trying not to die of cold.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 06, 2008, 06:40:42 pm
I thought you said you were from Singapore?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 06, 2008, 09:08:06 pm
Here in NS we've had -15 or below for the last week.
It is only going to be +11 here the next two days... BRRRRR.... ;)
Pussy...
Well said :). Come to Canada and see how well you last :P. Not Calgary though, the chinok these days has gotten our temperatures pretty warmer.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 06, 2008, 10:08:28 pm
You're from Calgary?  Heh.. we spent the past 5 days at the better half's parents' place there =)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 06, 2008, 10:16:34 pm
Ha ha ha, I grew up in such conditions, Boston is just as cold and awful as Canada; I just knew to GET THE HELL OUT!!!  :D
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 06, 2008, 10:22:00 pm
lol.
You're from Calgary?  Heh.. we spent the past 5 days at the better half's parents' place there =)
Yeah. I have an uncle in Edmonton. He's the only redshirt Calgary flames fan in the see of blue oilers :lol:
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 06, 2008, 10:25:34 pm
Ha ha ha, I grew up in such conditions, Boston is just as cold and awful as Canada; I just knew to GET THE HELL OUT!!!  :D

Until you have experienced -58°C WITHOUT the windchill, you do not know cold, Boston or no Boston :P
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Agent_Koopa on January 06, 2008, 10:27:37 pm
I live near Toronto, and it hasn't been very cold recently. We had tons of snow a month ago, but now barely anything.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 06, 2008, 11:13:39 pm
Quote from: MP-Ryan link=topic=51355.msg1038440#msg1038440 date=1199679934
Until you have experienced -58°C WITHOUT the windchill, you do not know cold, Boston or no Boston :P
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I met someone from Yellowknife once, does that count?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 02:30:38 pm
Notice how everyone with ****ty weather is north of the border?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Snail on January 07, 2008, 02:32:31 pm
I thought you said you were from Singapore?

And I have never actually gone anywhere other than Singapore?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 02:35:02 pm
Just sayin'...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Mika on January 07, 2008, 04:08:01 pm
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Until you have experienced -58°C WITHOUT the windchill, you do not know cold, Boston or no Boston

Though -50 temperatures tend to minimize the windchill as a side effect, not counting polar regions. Usually -25 degrees with strong wind has proved to be much worse than -40 degrees with no wind. Add some humidity by the seashore and it's also pretty cold. There are people who came from the place that usually has this -40 degrees of cold, recent minimum was -52, and they say this is worse since in their place there was no wind and the air was dry.

And speaking of feeling cold, I think even a better version is marching with the full gear in the moderate between rain and snow (I always forget this word in English, sleeze?). Then make sure temperature drops below -25 degrees in a moderate windchill in the evening after having marched the whole day and start putting up the tent. And finding some dry wood by which the heater could be warmed is always a positive thing in wet, cold and dark night...

And when you finally get to the sleeping bag in a warm tent (though windchill tends to blow still to your face - even if you are in sleeping bag), somebody wakes you up and tells its your time to go guarding. And of course the guarding persons cannot stand up, they lie on the ground. That was the night when I learnt what "cold" means. I wonder how I never got any frostbites to skin, though I suppose it came pretty close by times. The skin on the finger tips cracked several times during the service.

Ah, memories.

Though someone could write here the opposite stuff, like hell it was like +50 degrees the whole day and that was really ****! That would be something to read also.

Mika
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 04:37:36 pm
(I always forget this word in English, sleeze?)
Sleet.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: IceFire on January 07, 2008, 05:52:18 pm
Aye a -25c degree day with a -45c windchill is far worse than just -45c. The difference is with -45c you CAN stay warm with the right sort of clothing (layers!) and moving around allot.  Its still brutally cold but you'll feel it less because the air immediately around your body is not -45 and is being warmed by your body heat.  With a windchill that layer of slightly warmer air is blown away and it makes you feel worse.

My favourite winter days are actually the decently cold -15c ones where the sun is out and the sky is a crystal blue clear color that you only get during really cold winter days.  Those are the best you can hope for in my opinion.  Failing that the +14c we managed here today was pretty awesome...most of the snow melted.  I think next week we'll be in for a rude awakening.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Dark Hunter on January 07, 2008, 05:56:44 pm
What passes for winter where I live:

25 degrees Farenheit at the coldest during the day...

Perhaps one major snowfall... :sigh:
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 07, 2008, 06:29:22 pm
I almost had to put on a windbreaker today. That's kinda cold. :)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 06:43:06 pm
My favourite day is between -7 and -3. Perfect for skiing.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 07, 2008, 06:44:49 pm
Ditto.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 07:17:34 pm
Are you in a hilly part of Alberta? I'd love to ski at Whistler or St. Annes.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 07, 2008, 07:21:05 pm
Like i said above, i'm just outside of Calgary, so it's parries, but towards the west you get foothills, and the Canadian Olympic park. It's a really small hill that nobody likes, and it's only good for newbies and freestylers(due to the "boneyard", which just has some jumps and a half-pipe). I only skii for the speed, so i would prefer somewhere like lake Louise in the mountains.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: spartan_0214 on January 07, 2008, 07:24:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Fp3fzRfp98&rel=1
 (http://www.youtube.com/v/8Fp3fzRfp98&rel=1)
And a worse one hit this Christmas...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 07:32:08 pm
I just ski. I do some stunts, but yeah, speed is the main draw.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 07, 2008, 07:34:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/v/8Fp3fzRfp98&rel=1
 (http://www.youtube.com/v/8Fp3fzRfp98&rel=1)
And a worse one hit this Christmas...
Your house? Either way, you are a lucky bastard. I want 2 feet of snow. :(
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 07, 2008, 07:49:04 pm
Lol, yeah. what he got was nothing. I actually remember half my door covered snowed down once...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: spartan_0214 on January 07, 2008, 09:39:15 pm
Your house? Either way, you are a lucky bastard. I want 2 feet of snow. :(

No, not my house. IIRC, we got about that much in '06, but this year was a little more lean. Enjoyable, not the blizzard of '82 (unfortunately wasn't around then), but enjoyable. Who wants a blizzard anyway?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Polpolion on January 07, 2008, 10:27:13 pm
Who wants a blizzard anyway?

Everyone who doesn't drive...
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: WeatherOp on January 07, 2008, 11:39:37 pm
I almost had to put on a windbreaker today. That's kinda cold. :)

It was a beautiful 74 F today.  :D
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 08, 2008, 06:36:34 am
Are you in a hilly part of Alberta? I'd love to ski at Whistler or St. Annes.

You do know Whistler is on the west coast of BC, right? =)

Lake Louise and Sunshine are really the only worthwhile ski resorts in Alberta, and they're covered in tourists.  Kicking Horse, Red Mountain, Fernie, and Whistler in BC are considerably better, though expert skiers are better off at less developed but more technical ski areas like Red and Kicking Horse... though I hear Kicking Horse has done some major infrastructure work, so the tourist floods will undoubtably follow.

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Your house? Either way, you are a lucky bastard. I want 2 feet of snow.

Trust me, you don't.

One of the few things I like about Edmonton:  I don't have to shovel 3 feet of snow accumulation from a single night anymore.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 08, 2008, 09:08:02 am
Fog is the issue here.  Some curious lighting effects, though:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/Random/TAP-2390.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/NelsonAndBronte/SanFrancisco/Random/TAP-2890.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: perihelion on January 08, 2008, 09:33:03 am
It hit 80 F (26.7 C) in Corpus Christi yesterday, and I am totally fine with that.  I tried the whole "real winter" thing from 2000 to 2002 and have never come closer to actually contemplating arson (without leaving the building) just to finally be warm again.  Temperatures in Illinois didn't actually get that low compared to what most of you guys are boasting, but it was wet.  This was not the nice fluffy snow you can play in or sculpt with.  This was slush that was always hovering near the phase transition point just so it could suck that extra bit of warmth out of you.

Between the cold and the sun rising and setting while I was stuck in a lab with no windows (and therefore not seeing the sun for months on end) I was rapidly becoming a prime candidate for the loony bin.  You can keep your "real winter."  If I can't feel the sun burning my skin, I'm too far north. 
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Mustang19 on January 08, 2008, 12:55:53 pm
Wow, great photography Nelson. The building looks familiar, but where are you?
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: Admiral Nelson on January 08, 2008, 12:57:46 pm
It is the Transamerica Pyramid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transamerica_Pyramid) in San Francisco.  I live 10 minutes walk from it.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 08, 2008, 01:23:11 pm
Who wants a blizzard anyway?

Everyone who doesn't drive...
Everyone who doesn't want school.

Lol, yeah. what he got was nothing. I actually remember half my door covered snowed down once...
I'm doing a project on the worst storms in the Atlantic provinces, and apparently Newfoundland got 3.5 metres of snow in one day in '01!
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: haloboy100 on January 08, 2008, 02:32:53 pm
lol, sweet.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: MP-Ryan on January 08, 2008, 04:24:08 pm
Wow, great photography Nelson.

+1
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: IceFire on January 08, 2008, 05:44:04 pm
It hit 80 F (26.7 C) in Corpus Christi yesterday, and I am totally fine with that.  I tried the whole "real winter" thing from 2000 to 2002 and have never come closer to actually contemplating arson (without leaving the building) just to finally be warm again.  Temperatures in Illinois didn't actually get that low compared to what most of you guys are boasting, but it was wet.  This was not the nice fluffy snow you can play in or sculpt with.  This was slush that was always hovering near the phase transition point just so it could suck that extra bit of warmth out of you.

Between the cold and the sun rising and setting while I was stuck in a lab with no windows (and therefore not seeing the sun for months on end) I was rapidly becoming a prime candidate for the loony bin.  You can keep your "real winter."  If I can't feel the sun burning my skin, I'm too far north. 
The lack of sun is a problem.  More so for some than others.  If the sun is every out on a weekend in the winter I intentionally go out and make sure I get a few minutes of it...it does wonders.  Its also the only time I can go out and enjoy the sun without worrying about getting a burn :)

But yeah aside from one or two days in the last 30...haven't seen the sun.  If it did come out I was at work and would never get to see it.
Title: Re: Winter Storms
Post by: colecampbell666 on January 09, 2008, 01:25:47 pm
Where at?