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Title: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on January 06, 2008, 02:08:42 am: As the title reads, ask anything about The Apocalypse Project, but not dare to ask. Anything revelent to Homeworld or the Project could be asked here. However, some questions will be ignored if the questions is asking about missions or ingame content.

P.S. Please don't ask for release dates, or the staff will hunt you down.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Prophet on January 06, 2008, 03:37:55 am: Will there be a release date? :nervous:

Seriously. How's it going?

EDIT: Nevermind...
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on January 06, 2008, 03:40:49 am: There will not be a set release date. When its done honestly.
Spoiler:
Probably half a year tops... i hope :nervous:

As for how its going... Well, we are doing something at least now. Much more things were done in this few weeks than they were in the last year, so, take it as you wish :nervous:
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Prophet on January 06, 2008, 03:44:53 am: Quote from: pecenipicek on January 06, 2008, 03:40:49 am
There will not be a set release date. When its done honestly.
Duh :rolleyes:

Quote from: pecenipicek on January 06, 2008, 03:40:49 am
Spoiler:
Probably half a year tops... i hope :nervous:
Ya right. No one's going to believe that.

Quote from: pecenipicek on January 06, 2008, 03:40:49 am
As for how its going... Well, we are doing something at least now. Much more things were done in this few weeks than they were in the last year, so, take it as you wish :nervous:
That's good news... :yes:
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on January 06, 2008, 05:17:04 am: Can someone sticky this?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Mobius on January 06, 2008, 04:04:48 pm: Questions: do you have an introduction to the MOD? What are your plains? Do you feel motivated at the moment? Do you think you can get the MOD done with the new team? Are the coders going to add special features? If yes, which ones? :)

EDIT: It was "question", now it's "questions" ;7
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Sarafan on January 06, 2008, 04:16:32 pm: Quote from: Mobius on January 06, 2008, 04:04:48 pm
Questions: do you have an introduction to the MOD? What are your plains? Do you feel motivated at the moment? Do you think you can get the MOD done with the new team? Are the coders going to add special features? If yes, which ones? :)

EDIT: It was "question", now it's "questions" ;7

1- I think the old site has one that pretty much explains it IIRC.
2- Cant tell.
3-Yes.
4- Yes.
5- Cant tell.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on January 07, 2008, 02:24:45 am: Quote from: Mobius on January 06, 2008, 04:04:48 pm
Questions: do you have an introduction to the MOD? What are your plains? Do you feel motivated at the moment? Do you think you can get the MOD done with the new team? Are the coders going to add special features? If yes, which ones? :)

EDIT: It was "question", now it's "questions" ;7

1. Well the fiction is just following the actual Homeworld fiction.
2. There would be no dev status or plans (Classified Level Omega, and it's plans without a i)
3. If we can recruit more people then we certainly can.
4. Well what's the point of not putting something new in it? That's what people want.
5. Tough question...all I can tell you is that it would be related to Homeworld (duh)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 25, 2008, 09:10:56 pm: You guys did have at one point a basic working build didn't you? I've seen a couple videos of someone play testing it on YouTube.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Polpolion on February 25, 2008, 09:22:37 pm: Quote from: noodle on February 25, 2008, 09:10:56 pm
You guys did have at one point a basic working build didn't you? I've seen a couple videos of someone play testing it on YouTube.

We may or we may not possibly not not have it somewhat partially working. That's all I'm authorized to say. But the fact that I responded to your post within like 15 minutes should tell you something about the activity level of the project.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on February 26, 2008, 05:54:21 am: in short, yes, we have a working warpin. in long, yes it works, but its not yet bug-free. testing should be underway.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 26, 2008, 02:38:42 pm: Not to be a dick, but how exactly are you getting, really, anything done if you lack modelers and such?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Sarafan on February 26, 2008, 03:06:18 pm: Quote from: noodle on February 26, 2008, 02:38:42 pm
Not to be a dick, but how exactly are you getting, really, anything done if you lack modelers and such?

Oh, let me try answering that one!

Because the mod involves more than just ships?

Things like story, music, effects, etc, etc?

;)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Polpolion on February 26, 2008, 03:18:10 pm: There is also difference between "lack of modelers" and "no modelers".
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on February 26, 2008, 07:15:56 pm: point being we need modelers. we have one (me) who made a single model in his... year and a half with the mod approximately. yes. i suck as a modeler. but we got things back up into running. as it looks now... we might even have a release of sorts around summer. no definites, so dont kill me if we dont release it then.

if nothin else, expect screenies as soon as we get the warpin effects working properly.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 26, 2008, 10:46:34 pm: Ok ok, I was just saying...my point was that story and music and effects are nice, but without the actual ships, they aren't much good. Might I suggest seeking help from some of the Homeworld 2 mod teams? I'm sure some of them wouldn't mind a chance to model some ships that don't have to conform to that game's fairly low poly limit.

For that matter, is it possible to directly port the models from the original game? I know they wouldn't hold up well in a flight-sim environment, but it's a start.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Sarafan on February 26, 2008, 11:01:20 pm: Quote from: noodle on February 26, 2008, 10:46:34 pm
Ok ok, I was just saying...my point was that story and music and effects are nice, but without the actual ships, they aren't much good. Might I suggest seeking help from some of the Homeworld 2 mod teams? I'm sure some of them wouldn't mind a chance to model some ships that don't have to conform to that game's fairly low poly limit.

Like what mod teams for example?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: General Battuta on February 27, 2008, 12:01:57 am: Quote from: noodle on February 26, 2008, 02:38:42 pm
Not to be a dick, but how exactly are you getting, really, anything done if you lack modelers and such?

Noodle? Are you part of the latest generation of poor, doomed PDS fans? Do you know you're, like, the ninth group of adherents Tel has gone through?

Run! Run! The man is a bloody menace.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on February 27, 2008, 07:29:59 am: People, please drop the meaningless discussion here. the actual ships fromthe game are in our files for now, but i doubt that they will be used in the game itself. If we manage to find more modelers. And you're looking at things from a purely aestethic view. Which is useless. If you have anything else to ask, ask away. If you want to bother us, get out please.

And just to drive the final nail in the case of models. Most of the models would work pretty well as they are pretty much good, since they actually look much better with just some better textures.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 27, 2008, 11:43:31 am: Quote
Noodle? Are you part of the latest generation of poor, doomed PDS fans? Do you know you're, like, the ninth group of adherents Tel has gone through?

Run! Run! The man is a bloody menace.

The man has also released working builds of a mod. Over 2 dozen in fact. A pretty damn extensive and impressive mod I add. Which is more than I can say for you guys. Yes, I know I'm being a douche, but if you're going to insult another modder, then the gloves are off for me as well.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Polpolion on February 27, 2008, 11:49:07 am: Quote from: noodle on February 27, 2008, 11:43:31 am
Yes, I know I'm being a douche, but if you're going to insult another modder, then the gloves are off for me as well.

Yes, but you see your on our board. Yes, PDS is good and all, but this isn't the place to be discussing that. Fight over Tel's honor somewhere else. :p
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: General Battuta on February 27, 2008, 12:37:14 pm: Quote from: noodle on February 27, 2008, 11:43:31 am
The man has also released working builds of a mod. Over 2 dozen in fact. A pretty damn extensive and impressive mod I add. Which is more than I can say for you guys. Yes, I know I'm being a douche, but if you're going to insult another modder, then the gloves are off for me as well.

Hey, I respect the man, I just don't want to be on his dev team any more. I prefer to watch his (admitted) genius from a distance.

And that's all I have to say, I promise.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 27, 2008, 01:10:12 pm: Is there any way that the support ship code can be changed to allow a support frigate style ships? Ie if a frigate is present you dock to it not the other way round and it can handle numerous assault craft at the same time?
Also take as much time as ya need. I'm in no hurry as long as it does hw justice. :)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on February 27, 2008, 01:39:12 pm: i think we might do some scripting workarounds with that one. have to check with wmc and people about the feasability of that.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 27, 2008, 01:59:37 pm: No worries. :) regarding the higaaran pilot .ani's- what exactly do the species look like? I know we see karen but are you gonna make them with or without flight helmets :)?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 27, 2008, 03:08:17 pm: They're human, so you could actually just use the stock animations. I mean, in the end it's just guys in flight gear right?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 27, 2008, 03:40:05 pm: They're not human, they're humanoid. :sfft: there are concept pics of higaaran (sp?) flight gear in the cataclysm credits. Why not use some as reference?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: noodle on February 27, 2008, 04:57:46 pm: No, they're human. Unless you want to claim they are humanoids who looks EXACTLY like homo-sapiens.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on February 27, 2008, 05:01:40 pm: noodle, please, go out. you're not contributing anything.

@ Dekker, i dont know... didnt see those credits unfortunately. got a link or two?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Sarafan on February 27, 2008, 10:06:51 pm: Quote from: Colonol Dekker on February 27, 2008, 03:40:05 pm
They're not human, they're humanoid. :sfft: there are concept pics of higaaran (sp?) flight gear in the cataclysm credits. Why not use some as reference?

I saw those credits and the HW2 promotional poster, Hiigarans/Kushans, Vaygrs and even Taiidani are pratically human just like us.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 28, 2008, 03:22:14 am: Yeah ok they look identical in every single way, but they don't come from dudley or boston or even guatamala.

They're aliens :p

Quote from: pecenipicek on February 27, 2008, 05:01:40 pm
@ Dekker, i dont know... didnt see those credits unfortunately. got a link or two?

http://www.hwshots.homeworldtrinity.org/main.php?g2_itemId=5442

Not sure if this site has any but it may be worth a peek..

http://www.hwaccess.net/downloads.php?cat_id=9 Or this one :)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: starlord on March 14, 2008, 10:39:42 am: Anyhow, I "for one" a pleased to see you reborn: I thought the homeworld universe would forever be forbidden to me, and then you come in with a most charming alternative.

Just don't die on us, OK?

and thank you!
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on March 14, 2008, 05:27:51 pm: um... :D

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: starlord on March 17, 2008, 10:33:28 am: do you plan on releasing a trailer one of these days? I saw the old ones on youtube and them alone made me drool!
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: shiv on March 17, 2008, 10:52:46 am: We'll release things when they're ready to release :P
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: starlord on March 17, 2008, 11:18:22 am: Yep: Don't worry, I know the drill :D

Go ahead and amaze us!
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: knorke on April 05, 2008, 06:16:20 am: Hey, are you going to 'hire' some voice actors like the WCS Team when the rest of the mod is pretty much finished?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: shiv on April 05, 2008, 06:25:14 am: Yes. Campaign will be voice acted.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Hades on April 05, 2008, 04:22:51 pm: Will you do a pack without voice and then add voice later so it doesn't take as long as SOME projects on this forum?/me looks at MT, BWO, Mindgames, etc.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: starlord on May 11, 2008, 04:00:34 pm: Any news regarding that project? Also, could we have a link to your old welsite? (I liked the picture) :lol:
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Pyro MX on May 15, 2008, 06:40:30 pm: The old website is no longer online since the new one is in the works.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: starlord on May 16, 2008, 02:51:19 am: Pity: there was a nice little instalation I loved.

Never mind, though. How's the project? (although since I'm asking in the exams period, I think I know what the answer will be).
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 03, 2008, 08:27:34 am: Will there be battlecruisers in the initial/demo/first release?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on July 03, 2008, 10:30:07 am: depends if we get modellers and texturers. for example, we have the interceptor done (modelling side only), carrier halfway done, probe, destroyer i think and thats about it for now. i'm currently the sole modeller in the TAP.... sooo.. any help is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on July 13, 2008, 08:44:30 pm: Quote from: ShadowGorrath on July 03, 2008, 08:27:34 am
Will there be battlecruisers in the initial/demo/first release?

Just a little extra, this event takes place very early in HW2. Where destroyers are only a myth.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 14, 2008, 04:23:26 am: I hope you're joking about the destroyers-only-a-myth thing ?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on July 14, 2008, 02:15:41 pm: i think he is, cause we already have a destroyer done. (in model at least...)

neways, the demo will be pre-HW2. or, at least with the beginnings of the Vaygr incursion, so you wont be seeing too much. (initially :p)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 14, 2008, 02:20:35 pm: Ah, that's all fine, I guess. Cause the demo can be used for custom made missions, right? :p

The only thing I don't like about Vaygr is that they look lame in person... You got the concept pictures of Vaygr in person, right?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on July 14, 2008, 02:48:53 pm: *looks around nervously*

weeeell... nooo? :p

pm it. we'll see what we'll do :p

(that is if you're not talking about Makaan... if you are... well, he looks human enough to me)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 14, 2008, 03:00:34 pm: Well, it's in public. Here- http://homeworld.wikia.com/wiki/Vaygr. There's an image with concept art of them.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Turambar on August 02, 2008, 01:52:52 pm: Homeworld pretty ribbon ship trails: Do you have them?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on August 02, 2008, 02:18:07 pm: Yep, surely we do. We still need to change the agility of the fighters to match the ones like HW.

This screenshot is a bit wacky, but will do. Perhaps we'll change it in the demo.

(http://tap.hard-light.net/staff_files/shiv/variant2.jpg)
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Titan on August 02, 2008, 02:52:26 pm: the planet is a oval....
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Droid803 on August 02, 2008, 03:15:06 pm: I think you're not the point there.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: General Battuta on August 02, 2008, 05:24:24 pm: Whoa! Suddenly I'm excited about this project. Those trails look great.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on August 03, 2008, 12:13:14 am: Quote from: Titan on August 02, 2008, 02:52:26 pm
the planet is a oval....

I do not think we are using the planet - not pretty enough.

Quote from: Droid803 on August 02, 2008, 03:15:06 pm
I think you're not the point there.

I didn't make the screenshot :P. Bug the other members.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Droid803 on August 03, 2008, 12:16:52 am: Damn it. That came out wrong again.
I meant (at Titan) "I think you're missing the point of the picture".

Also, the warping of the planet is probably due to the FOV.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: nubbles526 on August 03, 2008, 12:27:11 am: Again? Hmmmm....either my brain's memory is aging, or that didn't even happen.

And with FOV, I think it's just the planet settings for that mission. But as mentioned, I think we'll use a skybox.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on August 04, 2008, 08:58:47 am: we're definitely using skyboxes and i have no idea how old that screenshot actually is :p
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: MechMantis on August 06, 2008, 03:09:01 pm: If one is flying a scout, will Command order you to kamikaze the nearest frigate occasionally?

In other words, will the non-bomber strike craft be useless against larger ships without suiciding, or will the treatment of strike craft be similar to FS2's, in that strike craft COULD ruin a larger ship's day?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on August 06, 2008, 03:12:59 pm: No suiciding. And lets face it, if you're in a fighter without bomber wings nearby, against anything larger then a corvette, yer toast. also piloting these craft will be... well, hard at first, and the first tutorial mission should probably let you get a feel for the craft at least.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: MechMantis on August 06, 2008, 03:15:44 pm: Awww.

Oh well. Would be nice, though. A return to the scout-bomb days. :P
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on August 06, 2008, 03:20:11 pm: i dont think it would be productive if the player was ordered to ram a ship suicide-bombing it.

also, fighters are fighters, frigates (most of em) make fighters go splat if they look on them wrongly.
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: Hellequin on August 31, 2008, 04:13:38 pm: What about multi-gun corvettes? Will they be playable and equipped with automated turrets so player only has to evade fire?
Title: Re: Things you want to know about but afraid to ask
Post by: pecenipicek on August 31, 2008, 04:43:47 pm: we'll think about it. its possible that we might make it so that the turrets preferably fire on the ship's target, rather than on whatever catches its fancy at that moment. we'll see if its playable, and if it is actually playable, we might include them as a player ship.