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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on January 16, 2008, 11:05:59 am
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Here is my redux of Their Finest Hour - i started with the original V mission and its unused paths and worked from there
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O.o
Aside from the pointless added objective to defend Kephri and the additional bombers and fighters which is something that I do not like at all in the mission since it detracts from what's going on with the Colossus, the Colossus/Ravana/Sathanas engagement is almost EXACTLY the same as retail.
That was...
A waste of my time.
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oh really... it's hardly the same on my system - the fleet actually have their beams enabled, the big C actually has a chance to engage in somewhat of a firefight with the Sath instead of getting torn to bits in 10 seconds flat
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Yes, now it's 15 seconds, with added crap like bombers and dragons completely detracting from the point.
I did like the beam-free-all on the friendlies though, so that's about the only plus it has.
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that's the best i've been able to get the big C and Col fight without having the fight last forever because the back end of the sathanas get's turned toward the big C for too long - and you can't just free the sath from it's waypoint path because then it will take eons for it to kill the big C even with me having added extra LRed emplacements to the sath
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Yes, I assume that's why they just disabled the Colossus after trying the waypoint thing and let it get done the way it has, which is why I said in the previous thread, it really doesn't get better than it is (well it may be possible to do some blue angels ****, but it's unlikely at best) - although beam-freeing the friendlies is the upgrade I'd vie for as well.
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Well...at least this Redux gives the Colossus a bit more face value. :D
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Its nice to see the Colossus go down with even a little fight ... good job.
The Sathanas never warps out though ... is that intentional?
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The Sathanas never warps out though ... is that intentional?
V never gave it a departure cue, i saw no reason to add one as you are supposed to be GTFOing
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Hmm ... I could swear I saw it warp out when I played. Maybe I was mistaken.
EDIT: I was mistaken. The Sathanas never warps out. Never mind.
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Hmm ... I could swear I saw it warp out when I played. Maybe I was mistaken.
EDIT: I was mistaken. The Sathanas never warps out. Never mind.
...I sure hope you didn't mistake the Stalwart, Khepri or Heket for a Shivan Juggernaut. ;)
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For some reason, I also used to think that the Sathanas warped out...
But, upon me replaying the game a few weeks ago, it just sat there.
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I hate to sound like the idiot newbie, but...umm...where do I put this to make it work?
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I hate to sound like the idiot newbie, but...umm...where do I put this to make it work?
Put this in data/missions. You can play it by going to the Mission Simulator and clicking on single missions. If you want it to be part of the campaign, just remove the "-kazan" part of the filename (it should be SM3-08.fs2).
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I hate to sound like the idiot newbie, but...umm...where do I put this to make it work?
Put this in data/missions. You can play it by going to the Mission Simulator and clicking on single missions. If you want it to be part of the campaign, just remove the "-kazan" part of the filename (it should be SM3-08.fs2).
No wonder I couldn't find my own unfinished version when I saved it as sm3-08.fs2... :wtf:
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new version of it with a much more satisfying exchange (fleet got the sath down to 40% before Big C bought it)
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I hate to sound like the idiot newbie, but...umm...where do I put this to make it work?
Put this in data/missions. You can play it by going to the Mission Simulator and clicking on single missions. If you want it to be part of the campaign, just remove the "-kazan" part of the filename (it should be SM3-08.fs2).
This is why I love HLP. Nobody flames you if you ask stupid questions. :yes:
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There are no stupid questions. Only stupid answers.
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I'm so quoting that. Can I?
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Quoting's fine, asking's fine. Trolling is otherwise. :ick:
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Trolling belongs under bridges
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Trolling...isn't that what fs2freak88 did?
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Trolling...isn't that what fs2freak88 did?
That's a good example. :nod:
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Trolling :confused:
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Trolling :confused:
Trolling is the act of posting garbage, flames, or offensive material just to get a reaction out of people.
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i thought it was what trolls do :lol: so trolling belongs under bridges, geddit? :doubt: :o :rolleyes: :doubt: :o :rolleyes: :(
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i thought it was what trolls do :lol: so trolling belongs under bridges, geddit? :doubt: :o :rolleyes: :doubt: :o :rolleyes: :(
So does using excessive amounts of smiley faces :P
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I tried modding this mission more than once. I never could get it to work out.
I did a few different things, like trying to putting better weapons on the Vasudan cruiser, altering their flight plans, but it usually ended up with them just flying a pattern around the node until the Ravana showed up. (Once I even put LRSSLBeams on the Colossus, just for kicks. It whooped those Shivan cruisers pretty good...surprised the hell out of me until I remembered the long-range part of them...oops.)
I like what you did a lot better, though. It tracks a bit more with what a typical Freespace mission would be like--keeping the huge ships' movement to a minimum, forcing the smaller fighters and bombers to take part a bit more.
Several of my experiments with "Their Finest Hour" usually ended up in a weird kind of chase between the Colossus and the Sathanas--which could easily last a half-hour or more. The Sathanas would come through and do its thing, then turn away, leaving its flanks exposed to the Colossus for broadside firings for several minutes at a time. Eventually, the Sathanas would win, but only after being brought to nearly 10% or less hull strength.
Just another example of how capital ship combat needs to be planned out thoroughly!
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I hate that mission (not yours, the one in retail) because, frankly, the only reaction i got from watching a 2-kilometer long squirt-gun get blow up was "So we wasted over 14 years for THIS?"
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"So we wasted over 14 years for THIS?"
Indeed. 20, to be precise.
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I hate that mission (not yours, the one in retail) because, frankly, the only reaction i got from watching a 2-kilometer long squirt-gun get blow up was "So we wasted over 14 years for THIS?"
I share the same sentiments as you do, Titan. It's the COLOSSUS, for crying out loud! You can't disable the rear engines! :wtf: