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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: jdjtcagle on January 17, 2008, 09:30:22 am
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"Production was discontinued when the GTA thought they would win the Vasudan war after the Battle of Gulnara, and then the production was started up again after the defeat at the Talania system."
What info do we have?
any theories?
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Gulnara is im pretty sure a planet or moon in antares.
Edit: Actually, Gulnara may be a planet in the Vasuda System. the GTA Captured Gulnara, giving them a foothold in the System, placing them in prime position to strike at Vasuda Prime.
Talnia...look at the entry on FSWiki about that system.
Talnia was in my opinion a very important Supply/Factory system. The Battle crippled the Terran Supply Lines, prolonging the war
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Interesting, where did you read about the foothold part? I think I remember it.
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Could it be possible that Deneb housed the planet? Terrans had Vega which also led to Deneb, according to the Fs2 Intro the Deneb has human settlements
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Interesting, where did you read about the foothold part? I think I remember it.
It's just my theory.
Could it be possible that Deneb housed the planet? Terrans had Vega which also led to Deneb, according to the Fs2 Intro the Deneb has human settlements
As far as i know, there isnt anything about which system Gulnara is actually in.
Since Terrans winning the TBoG left them in a position to assume that they'd win the war, I postulate Gulnara is in Vasuda or Antares.
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If it's not in Vasuda then I suspect it's in a system with access to Vasuda... Antaries or Deneb both do.
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The reason I think Deneb is because the Vega engagements was the first sighting of the Typhoon, now there are alot of details unknown such as: did 4th fleet retreat to Beta Aquilae (5th fleet?) or did it re-assemble and eventually took Deneb which would make sense for a Battle of Gulnara, because the Terrans now had access to Vasuda. BUT by 2335 the first animation reveals both Vega AND Deneb under Vasudan control. Assuming it took alot of time to construct more Typhoons (at least 4) there was quite a bit of time between the animation and Vega engagements.
Thoughts?
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There is no evidence as to what "Gulnara" is. It could be anything from a planet or moon to the name of some guy involved for all we know. There is no way to know one way or the other.
Talania is even more of a mystery. It isn't on any node map that we know of (I know, I've looked, I've sworn I've seen it, but nothing).
Most likely, each battle bracketed a major push into Vasudan space, possibly featuring the invasion of Vasuda Prime itself. Again, there's no evidence that this is true. We just don't know.
My theory basically make Gulnara a moon in Antares that the battle happened near. I won't make any arguements for Talania though (I still want it to be a full blown system).
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I read somewhere that Talnia appeared on an early FS system map. But that that early version quickly disappeared.
I say Gulnara was a moon/planet in Antares/Vasuda that had a major battle that occured over(and possibly on) it....
I think i'll stick with my theory of it being in Vasuda
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Gulnara is a Vasudan religious holiday.
I know this is fact because of my learnings.
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Is it? Where'd you read that?
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:lol:
I was hoping Eishtmo would join the conversation. Ok, I get your point I wont push it any further.
Talnia is in Silent threat... isn't it?
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No its not. We know it exist. from the Tech room DB. Nut beyond that - nothing. The missing Talnia system is the FS Atlantis/Magrathea/Lost City(from Stargate)
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Just checked on Silent Threat, your right... ok
I don't know where I got that from. But I realized that the first mission starts in Vega then jumps to ??? from there jumps to Beta Aquilae. Since there is an gap I guess I fabricated it, but I could of swore when playing the port the jump node used to say Talnia instead of jump node 0 lol
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I always thought that it went Vega -> Antares -> Beta Aquilae, via the Vega-Antares Node seen in one of the Command Briefing Ani files. Hopefully this will be cleared up in Silent Threat: Reborn. We're Just waiting for them to finish Voicing it.
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(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Fsnodemap.jpg)
I went of this, which shows a direct route to Beta Aquilae. Silent Threat did a Vega -> ??? -> Beta Aquilae
CB_starmap04 ani shows a Vega -> Antares -> Beta Aquilae. This is interesting...
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If you ever wanted ALL jump nodes ever mentioned on a map, then you need not to look further than here:
[attachment deleted by ninja]
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Cool reference sheet :yes:
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Paint.NET FTW!
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but I could of swore when playing the port the jump node used to say Talnia instead of jump node 0 lol
It did actually. :) And for the same reasons you said. But we took that out in 3.0 because we wanted to present Silent Threat in all its unpolished glory. :D
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Will that be cleared up ST:R?
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So I didn't lose my mind :P
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Hooray! Other people are adopting phasing nodes! :D
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It makes sense... Nodes do dissipate and some in nanoseconds
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Since when planets have regular names(not Vasuda Prime, Cygnus Prime, etc. etc.)? Is it possible that Gulnara is a system?
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Um Earth is called Earth, not Terra Prime or Solar Prime. THe rest of the planets in Sol
Actually I just remembered reading somewhere that Gulnara was a planet.moon in antares.
Now, there is the equally mysterious Battle of Rexias 4 mentioned in the FS Tech entry for the PVF Anubis,
Any ones got anyidea on that?
I think Rexias is a Gas Giant in Vega, Deneb or B Aquilae. Rexias 4 is the 4th moon around Rexia...A bit like Yavin 4 in Star Wars
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What about...Sol is Sol and FreeSpace is Terran-centered?
If you find sources citing those names as the names of moon/planets it's ok. I'm asking if the existance of other pseudo-canon systems is possible. Subspace nodes are volatile, remember?
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Um Earth is called Earth, not Terra Prime or Solar Prime. THe rest of the planets in Sol
Actually I just remembered reading somewhere that Gulnara was a planet.moon in antares.
Now, there is the equally mysterious Battle of Rexias 4 mentioned in the FS Tech entry for the PVF Anubis,
Any ones got anyidea on that?
I think Rexias is a Gas Giant in Vega, Deneb or B Aquilae. Rexias 4 is the 4th moon around Rexia...A bit like Yavin 4 in Star Wars
Hmm... let me look into that one it does sound like a moon.
Edit: From Wikipedia
The GTD Goliath was a Terran destroyer that was destroyed by Vasudan kamikaze pilots in the battle of Rexias IV, 12 years prior to the events of FreeSpace 1, during the 14-year war between Terrans and Vasudans. The destruction of the Goliath set the initiative to construct the GTEP Hermes escape pod.
The Anubis is the weakest fighter in the Vasudan Navy. However, they are extremely cheap to manufacture, and are often used in swarm situations to try to overwhelm the opponent with numbers. A few radical Vasudans have been known to load the ship with explosives and attempt to steer themselves into GTA capital ships. The first occurrence of this was the battle of Rexias 4, where the GTD Goliath was destroyed by a squadron of kamikaze pilots.
What is that 12 years prior reference? That's early in the war, which could imply that the Anubis could actually be the first fighter used by the Vasudans.
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No, the Anubis was probably not the first Vasudan fighter. It was designed to be cheap and as a replacement to the sentry guns which were rather ineffective for their cost. Now, I wonder what the GTD Goliath looks like. It was destroyed by a squadron of kamikaze pilots so I doubt it was as large as the Orion. But it was still classified as a Destroyer so I would say it would be around .5-1.5km in length.
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Anubis loaded with warheads + attack in swarms = 1 less Orion...
Plus Command was PRETTY worried when kamikazes tried to make way with the Galatea.
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Yeah in that mission if you sit about twiddling your thumbs, the Kamikaze fighters will quickly take down the Galetea
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Well, they did try ramming a cruiser into it and I thought that was extreme, but that's nothing compared to the NTF who tried to ram an Orion into the Colossus. I still think the GTD Goliath was an older design. It just seems weird if the Orion was the first generation destroyer.
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I would to me aswell...
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Is think the Orion was originally intended to be only destroyer the GTA would need. A design that could quickly be upgraded when needed. But things like that dont alway work out. I think the GTD Goliath was one of the first Orions assembled, possibly the 3rd or 4th. And was the first one to be destroyed in theTV War
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Read the universe reference project ( or whatever it's called )
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/fsurp/timelines/tvwar.html (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/fsurp/timelines/tvwar.html)
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It does mention the battle of Gulnara
THe battle of Rexias 4 is not metioned at all. The only references to it are in the Tech database entries for the GTEP Hermes (which only mentions the destruction of the GTD Goliath 12 years before FS1) and the PVF Anubis (which specifies that this took place at the Battle of Rexias 4).
Now as i said earlier i believe that Rexias 4 is like Yavin 4 in Star Wars - the 4th moon of a large Gas Giant
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For Cardinal Spear I created an additional star system for Talania, which seems to be the adopted meme.
However, Blackwater Operations retconns this into the Talania system being a gas giant system in Beta Aquilae. (Much like the Jovian system) With Talania VIb being one of the major firefights during the Vega Engagement. (which occurred in Betaq and Vega)
For our continuity Gulnara is mentioned as an outer planet in the Vasuda system.
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Read the universe reference project ( or whatever it's called )
http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/fsurp/timelines/tvwar.html (http://www.3dactionplanet.com/hlp/hosted/fsurp/timelines/tvwar.html)
Bah... Wiki is better since it actually "seperates" fact from fiction
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For Cardinal Spear I created an additional star system for Talania, which seems to be the adopted meme.
However, Blackwater Operations retconns this into the Talania system being a gas giant system in Beta Aquilae. (Much like the Jovian system) With Talania VIb being one of the major firefights during the Vega Engagement. (which occurred in Betaq and Vega)
For our continuity Gulnara is mentioned as an outer planet in the Vasuda system.
Vega Engagement took place in Beta Aquilae too?