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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: maje on January 18, 2008, 08:09:39 pm

Title: TableView not working with some files
Post by: maje on January 18, 2008, 08:09:39 pm

Hey there, I'm trying to get a better idea on how to execute weapons modding and I seem to be in a bind.  For whatever reason, I try opening the *.tbl files for the Babylon Project and I get gobbledygook, yet when I open the addition-shp.tbm and earthland-shp.tbm the contents have no trouble being displayed.  So, am I on crack or what?  :p

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: blowfish on January 18, 2008, 08:18:00 pm

I would recommend opening tables with notepad or something similar.  The table code is not that hard to understand.  I have never used TableView though, so I don't know how much easier it is.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: maje on January 18, 2008, 08:34:12 pm

nope, sorry.  Not working.

I keep getting UUUU
     
   UUUU
     
   UUUU and lots of it.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: blowfish on January 18, 2008, 09:55:25 pm

Well then, it looks like you are on crack. (Just kidding)

Lemme see that table file.  Maybe it is just corrupt or something.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: maje on January 18, 2008, 10:03:03 pm

I'm thinking it's corrupt.

It's odd because TBP works fine.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: blowfish on January 18, 2008, 10:14:36 pm

You could try re-extracting it.  It may have gotten corrupt some time between when you extracted it and now.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: Nuke on January 19, 2008, 01:15:09 pm

i use notepad++, i have it configured to mark up tables, it also marks up lua and c++ for me by default (and many many other languages).

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: Snail on January 19, 2008, 01:19:36 pm

Maybe the tables are encoded or something... :wtf:

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: Jeff Vader on January 19, 2008, 01:31:28 pm

Yah, I've succesfully stared at numerous table files using either Maja or QuickVP for extraction and Notepad for viewing. Don't know about 'dem TableViews, though.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: Nuke on January 19, 2008, 01:41:05 pm

fs1 tables used to be encrypted to prevent cheating. but because some early modders so easily broke it, volition just used unencrypted files for fs2 and checked for cheaters in other ways. tableview is one of those things left over from the early days of fs modding and hasnt been rebuilt to deal with all the new fields the scp uses.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: Wanderer on January 20, 2008, 12:44:14 am

This might be just another problem that happens when trying to open or extract files from very large .VP files with VPView. At least that happened to me. Had to extract the tables first using Maja as any of the files opened with VPView were corrupted.

Title: Re: TableView not working with some files
Post by: maje on January 20, 2008, 09:50:51 pm

I'll have to give Maja a try.  Though it's probably time to reinstall the Babylon Project since I can no longer open up FRED.  Have no idea what the hell I did to it. meh.  Thanks to everyone who posted. :)