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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: Retsof on January 30, 2008, 06:16:18 pm

Title: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on January 30, 2008, 06:16:18 pm
Meet the Lancer class Frigate.  I need advice about what to do with the large open spaces, and the bottom is completely featureless.  Remember, this is my first model, so don't expect anything too spectacular.
Also, this is not meant for Freespace, it's just something I made up.

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Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Hellstryker on January 30, 2008, 07:01:26 pm
My advice would be scrap it and make a new one
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Polpolion on January 30, 2008, 07:40:16 pm
My advice would be scrap it and make a new one

And Hellstryker retains the award for the most tactless for another season...


As for model advice, I suggest adding random bumps and stuff to make it look less monotonous. If you put the guns that are on the top/bottom of the model on pedestals or bars or little plateaus, it would be better too.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: haloboy100 on January 30, 2008, 07:56:37 pm
How come this looks so familiar?

Edit: Oh, I remember. Because it looks like a turret platform from Freelancer.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Hellstryker on January 30, 2008, 09:51:31 pm
My advice would be scrap it and make a new one

And Hellstryker retains the award for the most tactless for another season...

I said that because thats how i got good at modeling, but whatever  :doubt:
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Polpolion on January 30, 2008, 09:59:29 pm
My advice would be scrap it and make a new one

And Hellstryker retains the award for the most tactless for another season...

I said that because thats how i got good at modeling, but whatever  :doubt:

You got good at modeling by getting told that you suck? If that's true, I really doubt you're actually good at modeling.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: haloboy100 on January 30, 2008, 10:18:35 pm
People will beilieve you if you say you suck; people will never beilieve you if you complement yourself without proof.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: blowfish on January 30, 2008, 11:55:58 pm
Seconded.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Ashrak on January 31, 2008, 03:59:37 am
Im the greatest whiii
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Hellstryker on January 31, 2008, 09:51:02 am
People will beilieve you if you say you suck; people will never beilieve you if you complement yourself without proof.
I dont quite think you understand, i never said that he sucked. its a typical first model and we all start out this way.

EDIT: Proof: (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/Tyrkeyz/Kestrel.png)
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: haloboy100 on January 31, 2008, 12:04:39 pm
People will beilieve you if you say you suck; people will never beilieve you if you complement yourself without proof.
I dont quite think you understand, i never said that he sucked. its a typical first model and we all start out this way.

EDIT: Proof: (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb317/Tyrkeyz/Kestrel.png)

I'm just offering some wise advice for those that read this :)
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Polpolion on January 31, 2008, 02:15:13 pm
Yes, you really deserve the tactless award if you don't think "Scrap it and try again" is rude.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Unknown Target on January 31, 2008, 02:58:15 pm
Hellstryker, be more tactful from now on. Said and done. And Hellstryker, I take it you're offering that as a model in the category of "firsts"?

As for the model Restof, it's a decent first, but you seem like what you really need to work on isn't your modeling so much as your straight up ship design. Sketchup makes it easy to make detailed blocky shapes, try thinking not in the horizontal axis, but in the Z as well. Try extrusion modeling instead of just tracing an outline, etc. Good luck, and if you need any help with the program, don't hesitate to ask, and I'm usually reachable by PM. :)
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on January 31, 2008, 07:19:22 pm
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Try extrusion modeling instead of just tracing an outline
Is that where you draw a shape and pull it out?  I used that allot.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: blowfish on January 31, 2008, 07:44:22 pm
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Try extrusion modeling instead of just tracing an outline
Is that where you draw a shape and pull it out?  I used that allot.

Use it even more.  Extrusion is your friend.

If you want to learn how to do more complicated stuff in SketchUp, I would advise watching the video tutorials.  They helped me greatly in learning how to model (I still need a lot of practice though).
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Unknown Target on January 31, 2008, 08:06:18 pm
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Try extrusion modeling instead of just tracing an outline
Is that where you draw a shape and pull it out?  I used that allot.

Yea but I don't mean drawing it from the top down and just pulling it out. Let's say you wanted to draw a tube that was fat in the middle and skinny on the ends. Draw a circle, and pull it back. Scale the new circle so it's a little bigger. then pull it out again and make the new circle bigger. Etc, etc, until you have the desired shape. Then you can explode the curves while you're doing this and adjust the indvidiual vertices, so you can have complex shapes.
As an example, this model was done with extrusion:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/UnknownTarget/Chubbeh4.jpg)

And a wireframe:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/UnknownTarget/chubwire.jpg)
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: blowfish on January 31, 2008, 10:16:25 pm
That kind of complex curvature takes a lot of practice to get right though.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 01, 2008, 12:50:58 am
I hate to say it Unknown, but you really seem only able to make one kind of fighter-type shape. :p
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Unknown Target on February 01, 2008, 03:46:36 pm
If you think that looks like what I think you're referring to, I suggest you go see a doctor :p
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: haloboy100 on February 01, 2008, 04:25:38 pm
That looks like it could be a pod racer cockpit..
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 01, 2008, 08:36:37 pm
If you think that looks like what I think you're referring to, I suggest you go see a doctor :p

No, I'm actually quite serious. All of your fighter-type craft have the same hullform or nearly so.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Aardwolf on February 05, 2008, 01:14:43 am
It looks like the Red Bull one.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on February 06, 2008, 06:45:19 pm
I can't really think of anything else to do with this.  Here it is if anybody wants it.  It looks like there are plenty of reversed faces (now that I know what the dark faces mean).  If you get it, take a look at the turrets, I'm a little proud of them (they're simple but they look cool  :D ).  Have fun, and feel free to modify it.

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Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on February 07, 2008, 09:07:51 pm
Small :bump: and a double post.  Please post the results of whatever modifying anyone does, I would like to see what grows from my creation.  :D
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Admiral_Stones on February 09, 2008, 09:07:09 am
I have one question. Despite main work on my upcoming model largely finished, I kinda backed away from turreting. How d'you did these nice turrets (Actually, they are the best on the model :P)?
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on February 09, 2008, 01:47:54 pm
The front convergent beam cannons (think Death Star  :D), the single barreled anti fighter beams, or the double barreled guns?
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Admiral_Stones on February 10, 2008, 10:38:04 am
Uhhh... In general, mainly the small ones.
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on February 11, 2008, 07:16:49 pm
Here you go Admiral, and whoever else wants this.

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Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 11, 2008, 09:18:16 pm
I dumped a bunch of turret designs for the community awhile back, I seem to recall... :P
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Admiral_Stones on February 12, 2008, 02:26:11 am
Wow! Thank you, Retsof!

Now let's turret up the beast ;7
Title: Re: My First Model
Post by: Retsof on February 12, 2008, 02:49:04 pm
From your reaction I'm guessing it helped.  Wow, I actually did something productive.  :D