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Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 14, 2002, 02:21:23 am
Very nice, IMO...what does everyone else think? ;)
EDIT: Active users good, PMs good :D
Title: Quite Nice
Post by: Kamikaze on February 14, 2002, 02:26:17 am
I like it, a nice forum only woe is the undersized-person-info bar... but that's okay :D
In fact I've always like this Vbb system so....
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 03:32:46 am
So long as this doesn't turn OT I think it'd be useful for comments and so on as we get things sorted out. That and it's an excuse to let me use the sticky thread feature.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Ryx on February 14, 2002, 03:58:27 am
Love it!!:cool:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CP5670 on February 14, 2002, 04:09:07 am
Old one was significantly better IMHO; didn't look so cluttered and I could see what I was typing (since I am using a high-contrast scheme, it now shows black on black in the text box) I suppose I will get used to it though...;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 04:50:43 am
It's better. Much faster, and we can go crazy and add billions of Forums. Holy cow! A private message just jumped out at me! Cool. :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Darkage on February 14, 2002, 05:00:37 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
It's better. Much faster, and we can go crazy and add billions of Forums. Holy cow! A private message just jumped out at me! Cool. :D


Yeah:D i love that function:)
Thanks for the reply setekh:)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Unknown Target on February 14, 2002, 05:38:47 am
It's OK, i guess, but I still like the infopop one....oh well, and BTW, what's with the   new forum rules (bottome left);

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You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
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Title: delta_7890
Post by: delta_7890 on February 14, 2002, 05:44:32 am
Bah!  You changed it!  I personally liked the old one better...easier to read stuff...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Unidan on February 14, 2002, 06:04:25 am
It's alright. (besides the fact that it's VBulletin)

EDIT: Now I'm a senior member! Alright! :D :D :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2002, 06:22:25 am
We can't put pics in our sigs :p
No, actually, I don't care. Only thing that bothers me, it's all the unused space between the posts. it makes everything... mmh, how did he say? clutered? It's easier to first push the reply button, and then read the posts :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 06:27:45 am
For reference - we're toying with the layout, if you've got a suggestion we'd like to hear it so we can give it a go and see what people think...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 06:32:10 am
Indeed. Don't worry, we'll have it looking nice and homey in no time. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2002, 07:20:25 am
oh, btw, all the pics with the lvlshot tag are now fuxored :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Jon Handby on February 14, 2002, 07:39:08 am
Hmmm looking at it i think its good, but. Wheres the HLP Support forum gon? :confused:
Anyhow i think it looks really really good, (oh im one for unstatment! :rolleyes:)
But ive noticed my little IWF things at the sides gone! ah nevermind, we should realy give you time to get this up and running!

Regards
Jon Handby
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 07:52:47 am
Yeah, we're having a bit of trouble with the avatars (getting used to what we can/can't do and so on). Right now (AFAIK) we can just have one image and one title, and I'm not sure if you can put hyperlink code into it. But like I said, we're working on it - and eventually we'll get hosted peoples avatars up again in as good a form as we can manage.

As for the support forum, it still exists but isn't visible from the main page (as with the staff forum and the private forums).
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 07:54:53 am
Jon, check out the thread on forum access. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Jon Handby on February 14, 2002, 07:59:45 am
Already done ;) slightlish problem though: no access, already sent a PM. Woah! Im actually infront here! :eek: makes a first! :D

Regard
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2002, 08:08:07 am
bouhouhou, I can't read my private messages :( (excepted in my
... profile screen, and only the just arrived ones )
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 08:17:41 am
Hmmm, I figured out your access problem, Jon... it's about mod status. And I haven't set up a forum for you yet, so just hold tight for a little while, and you'll be right as rain. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Jon Handby on February 14, 2002, 08:21:59 am
Ahhhhhhhh KK no rush :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 08:22:52 am
/me likes. Although I'm not the worlds greatest fan of vBulletin I'm grateful for the fact that now I can log in and stay logged in. UBB5 would never remember to save my cookie properly and every time I closed my browser it'd disappear. I'll probably spend a bit more time here now because of that.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 08:47:37 am
Woohoo:
Private Messaging (it is enabled right?)
More Options
You seem to have ported all the posts and accounts perfectly

Bah:
Looks a little too sharp, plasticy and confusing
No Iframe at the bottom of the post page, that thing was damn handy
There are gaps between each post, it looks wierd
The Member level thingy is wierd: Nov 2001 with 400 posts is a Senior Member whereas a Jun 2001 with 500 post is a Member (or is that just something you guys have done?)
Some threads say 467 posts with only 17 views :D

Do the old smileys work?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 08:48:55 am
Never mind about the Member thing. It appears to sort itself out when you post.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 08:51:20 am
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Originally posted by an0n
No Iframe at the bottom of the post page, that thing was damn handy


Actually, I'm glad to see that go, I hated that hack with a passion...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 08:55:48 am
Really? Heh, neat! :D

We're still working on the forum styling and avatars, so don't worry about those.

PS. Guys, about your sigs: vB automatically sticks tags around them, so if you want, you can kill the tags you've got around them currently. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 08:58:46 am
How do you turn off the Subscribe To Thread thingy?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:04:28 am
Looking at the Members list it occurs to me that there are a lot of one-post-wonders. I love that feature.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: IceFire on February 14, 2002, 09:07:04 am
Aahh, you've seen the light and started using vBulletin! :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:09:22 am
UBB ro0lz all.

Doesn't vBulletin have some crippling security flaws? In the older versions you could get access to admin accounts and lock out the real admin just by altering a string in the address bar.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 09:16:55 am
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Originally posted by an0n
How do you turn off the Subscribe To Thread thingy?


I'm not sure. I eventually got to it through the admin CP, but there's gotta be a way to do it as a standard user. Keep looking around...

As for security, vB is on top. We had UBB and we got hacked. Twice. No thanks...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 09:17:06 am
Oh, and an0n... 100 posts deducted for constant spamming instead of simply editing one post (yes it's evil, sue me :p)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Jon Handby on February 14, 2002, 09:21:13 am
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Originally posted by Setekh


I'm not sure. I eventually got to it through the admin CP, but there's gotta be a way to do it as a standard user. Keep looking around...

As for security, vB is on top. We had UBB and we got hacked. Twice. No thanks...


Ive done it through the profile menu, theres a few twiggling to do (mainly press unsubscribe) and go into options and click NO for one of the options, im just confusing ppl here :mad: well none the less to say ive done it for me...

Regards :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 09:23:47 am
Heh, good one, T... ;)

Bright minds think alike, and fools never differ...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2002, 09:24:32 am
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Oh, and an0n... 100 posts deducted for constant spamming instead of simply editing one post (yes it's evil, sue me :p)


hehe, i'm one of the guy who does the less spam in the forums, and I'm heading for 5000 posts :D ( only Setekh has more than me )
sue me for this one spam post :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 09:25:22 am
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
How do you turn off the Subscribe To Thread thingy?


Profile -> Edit Options -> Use Email Notification by Default I think is what does it.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:34:05 am
The Hosted forums ain't got their own colours.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 09:38:29 am
Admiral - yep, and if your subscribed to a thread you can unsubscribe by clicking the relevant link in the email :)

Oh, and I don't intend to deduct posts from people all the time - but it's something I'll consider if people insist on spamming instead of thinking about editing their posts.

Oh, and it occurs to me - and this is important so it's in bold...

The forum has a large and fairly detailed FAQ which can be found here (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/misc.php?s=&action=faq). Please read it and make sure the answers you seek aren't in it before asking us. Thanks :)

Oh, and in addition - the PM feature means you can PM us instead of posting topics if you require something from one person. Think afor ye post ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 14, 2002, 09:39:53 am
hey, can we have the lvlshot tag back? that's a damn lot of therads to edit otherwise...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:43:31 am
And the smileys. We needs our smileys.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 14, 2002, 09:43:39 am
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Originally posted by venom2506


hehe, i'm one of the guy who does the less spam in the forums, and I'm heading for 5000 posts :D ( only Setekh has more than me )
sue me for this one spam post :p


Interestingly enough, I think at least 1/3 of my posts are providing feedback on mods; another 1/3 on feedback for renders and stuff about the Array; and the final 1/3 defending myself from Steak Jokes. :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 09:43:49 am
One of the many features and things we hope to refine as we get things operational... right now leave threads as they are, no sense in editing so many by hand - I'm sure users can work out how to copy/paste the URL into the address bar...

Oh, regarding us adding features and so on, we'll probably do things by order of importance, a lot of work has already been done and the forums pretty functional - theres nothing really badly needed now, it's just nice features :)

Smilies are very easy to do. Shouldn't take much time at all - see my new thread on them...

oh and an0n - just edit one post adding new things to do instead of posting once for each item or I'll reduce your post count to 0 :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 14, 2002, 09:44:29 am
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
The Hosted forums ain't got their own colours.
I'm working on that right now.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:45:34 am
*cough*NodeWar*cough*
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 09:46:40 am
Right, thats it  - back to 0 for you :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:47:25 am
That wasn't even close to spam!
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Top Gun on February 14, 2002, 09:49:31 am
Not a bad Upgrade, I personally prefer UBB's interface but vB is a lot faster :)


Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Oh, and an0n... 100 posts deducted for constant spamming instead of simply editing one post (yes it's evil, sue me :p)



Wooo, Frazz only ever took 20 at the most, have you been taking lessons from him ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 09:52:57 am
Huh. So this is what being a whipping boy is like.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 09:53:48 am
He hasn't got any now - I don't like repeating myself... I'll probably put them back when I'm in a kinder mood...

Now - lets get back to the topic :)

As for the interface... like I said - we're working on it ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: mikhael on February 14, 2002, 10:10:02 am
I think I liked the old setup better. It was cleaner and faster for me to browse. Besides that, it worked well with a unix browers (NS has some problems with vBulletin. If it were me, I'd likely strip vB down to where the HLP fora were, and then add bits back, feature by feature, until it reached a balance of clean layout and feature richness (there's lots of stuff here that's unnecessary). I'd like the IFrame back.

Other than that stuff, its not too bad. Once you're done straightening out the graphics and the like, it'll be business as usual, I expect.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 10:22:10 am
One thing I'd like to see removed is the line of vB Code buttons on the New Topic and Post Reply pages like what they have over at VWatch.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 10:31:20 am
Dude, that can be removed from the options section....

profile -> edit options -> Other Options (down the bottom) -> Use vBCode quick links on your message input screens?

Set that to no and the buttons disappear :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CP5670 on February 14, 2002, 10:36:07 am
The only thing I would like changed is to be able to read my posts while typing.:D I am using a high-contrast scheme for windows, so everything comes out black on black.:p Currently, I have enter them in notepad and the copy the thing into the vB window. Several of the buttons also look messed up; I just have to guess what they say.:p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 10:38:08 am
You said already :)
Take a screenshot.... nobody else has complained about this AFAIK so lets see what it looks like on yours and we'll see if a fix can't be worked out...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 10:43:56 am
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Dude, that can be removed from the options section....

profile -> edit options -> Other Options (down the bottom) -> Use vBCode quick links on your message input screens?

Set that to no and the buttons disappear :)


I just tried that (I'd noticed the option before and though it did something different. Serves me right for not reading it properly) but that gets rid of the smiley panel as well...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 10:48:51 am
So memorise the smily codes or cope with the vB Code bar along the top - we can't work miricales :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CP5670 on February 14, 2002, 10:55:25 am
Not typing this one into notepad; hope it comes out right...:D

Here are two screenshots:

http://members.home.com/cp5670/screen1.jpg
http://members.home.com/cp5670/screen2.jpg

You can see a few weird things in there;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 11:07:16 am
(http://community.theunderdogs.org/smiley/armed/bash.gif)

Fool.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 11:15:54 am
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
So memorise the smily codes or cope with the vB Code bar along the top - we can't work miricales :D


Then how did they do it over at VWatch?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 11:16:53 am
I'm pretty sure VWBB is just done through the personal options.

Oh and the dates and time of posts aren't shown. It'd be nice if they were.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 14, 2002, 11:21:11 am
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Originally posted by CP5670
The only thing I would like changed is to be able to read my posts while typing.:D I am using a high-contrast scheme for windows, so everything comes out black on black.:p Currently, I have enter them in notepad and the copy the thing into the vB window. Several of the buttons also look messed up; I just have to guess what they say.:p
Kier just fixed that.

And An0n, look below your post..... it says when you posted it. ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Kier on February 14, 2002, 11:22:13 am
Quote
Originally posted by CP5670
Not typing this one into notepad; hope it comes out right...:D

Here are two screenshots:

http://members.home.com/cp5670/screen1.jpg
http://members.home.com/cp5670/screen2.jpg

You can see a few weird things in there;)
Should be sorted now.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 14, 2002, 11:23:41 am
Perhaps not such a pure white?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 14, 2002, 11:24:28 am
Quote
Originally posted by an0n
I'm pretty sure VWBB is just done through the personal options.


That option Thunders talking about doesn't even exist over at VWatch. Not that I could change it if it did, the profile pages are well and truly b0rked over there for me and several others. We can change our options but the confirmation page won't load and the changes aren't recorded in the database.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 14, 2002, 11:48:09 am
Hmm, IceFire - can you shed some light on this? Is there some kinda of option hack you can put in that allows buttons to be turned off whilst keeping the smilies?

As for the white - it's bright, but fine :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 14, 2002, 12:24:46 pm
You guys are complaining because of extra features.....

*sigh*
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Zeronet on February 14, 2002, 01:01:03 pm
Its all good, a truely definative and worthwhile update.

EDIT: Ahhh ahh ahhh! Im not a valued member im Hangerman!
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Scorpius on February 14, 2002, 02:17:30 pm
I really cant say I like it any better but its new to me but I'll warm up to it! :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 14, 2002, 02:55:26 pm
Over a quarter of the votes consider the old UBB better.

Why?  Explain your logic.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2002, 03:11:10 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Zeronet
Its all good, a truely definative and worthwhile update.

EDIT: Ahhh ahh ahhh! Im not a valued member im Hangerman!


You can change your title - or is that just me.

I think the old UBB looked nicer, though.

But hell, i'm adaptable.  miss my old siggy image, though.  Can I get it as an avatar?  :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: mikhael on February 14, 2002, 03:16:05 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Over a quarter of the votes consider the old UBB better.

Why?  Explain your logic.


Since Shrike asked, and I'm one of those 1 in 4, I'll quote myself:

Quote
Originally posted by mikhael
I think I liked the old setup better. It was cleaner and faster for me to browse. Besides that, it worked well with a unix browers (NS has some problems with vBulletin. If it were me, I'd likely strip vB down to where the HLP fora were, and then add bits back, feature by feature, until it reached a balance of clean layout and feature richness (there's lots of stuff here that's unnecessary). I'd like the IFrame back.

Other than that stuff, its not too bad. Once you're done straightening out the graphics and the like, it'll be business as usual, I expect.


This is, btw, the fifth time I've tried to post this response, as the vBulletin system doesn't coexist well with NS6.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: aldo_14 on February 14, 2002, 03:25:10 pm
True...I have problems using Netscape at Uni.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Unidan on February 14, 2002, 04:04:19 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
For reference - we're toying with the layout, if you've got a suggestion we'd like to hear it so we can give it a go and see what people think...


Give me a title. Or at least change it back to senior member. Please?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Zeronet on February 14, 2002, 04:05:44 pm
I dont know how.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: IceFire on February 14, 2002, 04:58:20 pm
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Hmm, IceFire - can you shed some light on this? Is there some kinda of option hack you can put in that allows buttons to be turned off whilst keeping the smilies?

As for the white - it's bright, but fine

You should probably ask Remmy...he does scripts.  I just admin and whatnot.  Its probably a quick hack.  I'm sure we can help you there.

We apparently have some problems with profiles.  Any of you experiencing that problem at VWBB need to E-MAIL Remora or Orange.  Their e-mails are available on all major VWatch pages under the staff section or for now remora@volitionwatch and orange@volitionwatch.
Title: Any News?
Post by: Jon Handby on February 14, 2002, 05:26:27 pm
Sooooo, anything working fully then?
Just to say on AOL:UK works fine! Which is a first for a forum!
Anyhow, so whats the future plans for this then?

Regards
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Kitsune on February 14, 2002, 06:19:42 pm
The place looks good.
Though I don't like the scroll bars.  Too dark, especially when next to the WHITE (ahh my eyes!)  message boxes.

The contrast is very high here.  Think maybe a 25,25,25 would look better instead of 0,0,0.
As for the scroll bars, could you make them thicker, or default to a % of the window size instead?
If they were bigger they'd be easier to see, not that I use them though, mouse wheel and/or pg up/down is what I typically use.

At any rate, you can never please everyone.  There will always be some critisism about something.
So work with it till you feel happy and let the rest of us learn to deal with it...

Untill we get mod status and can argue with a little more weight to go with our opinion. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 14, 2002, 06:56:47 pm
It's disturbing. This is now exzactly the same as the HOTU forum. Except that, as far as I can tell, it works.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CP5670 on February 14, 2002, 09:16:25 pm
Wow; I can see what I am typing now! Thanks Kier!:)

All of my windows menus and programs are almost black, so I am used to a dark scrollbar.;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Xelion on February 14, 2002, 09:49:08 pm
Okay I admit its good overall though blue takes over the rest of the forums so those little buttons are more interesting then anyones posting....the addition of attachments uploading is really good...I was waiting for that for a long time...but the other half of me thinks otherwise...


What were you thinking...changing the Forums so know one could noticed whos posting what...don't you know this colormatch is bad...theres to much text on the screen; all the unwanted properties...shouldn't it be cleaner and easier...you actually come to a forum to talk to the community not to analyse and program a posting!!!! :mad: What were you thinking.....:eek:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Xelion on February 14, 2002, 09:52:19 pm
Anyhow the were-here (www.were-here.com) forum is pretty good layout expect for a few of the properties which could be removed..I prefer easy to use, view and post forums, not ones that take half a century to learn....:sad:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CP5670 on February 14, 2002, 10:17:19 pm
The main thing I don't like is that everything looks kind of...cluttered. Even with the extras disabled in the control panel, there seem to be images, buttons and whatnot all over the place, so much that it is slightly distracting. (and most of it people would not use) I personally prefer the newer UBB version with its cleaner look. Still, there are certainly things to like here, with the image attachments and larger typing area.:)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Xelion on February 14, 2002, 10:36:37 pm
Right on partner ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 15, 2002, 01:50:26 am
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Originally posted by Max
Anyhow the were-here (www.were-here.com) forum is pretty good layout expect for a few of the properties which could be removed..I prefer easy to use, view and post forums, not ones that take half a century to learn....:sad:

It's actually the same forum... :p
Though it is much cleaner, like you said :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 15, 2002, 02:56:41 am
As we keep saying - we're working on the layout. Personally I think your being to critical - there's lots of options but it doesn't look cluttered. However we are going to make it a little clearer what goes where...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Sandwich on February 15, 2002, 05:10:16 am
Me = Lieks, although the phpBB (http://www.phpbb.com/) v2 (beta) is my favorite.

Still, good job, guys! :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Xelion on February 15, 2002, 06:54:12 am
its the color man...its spinning me out
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 15, 2002, 07:28:16 am
oooooooooh... all those people have biiiiiiiiiiig pbs it seems. They have too many options :p I think that's a première, no? :D

only thing I don't like are the gaps between each post.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 15, 2002, 07:44:52 am
Quote
Originally posted by sandwich
Me = Lieks, although the phpBB (http://www.phpbb.com/) v2 (beta) is my favorite.

Still, good job, guys! :)


Dude! I've been waiting for you to show up! I've been trying to get to the Sandvich Bar BB but without much luck... :(
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 15, 2002, 08:04:13 am
Quote
Originally posted by Max
Anyhow the were-here (www.were-here.com) forum is pretty good layout expect for a few of the properties which could be removed..I prefer easy to use, view and post forums, not ones that take half a century to learn....:sad:
1)  Those blue buttons will stay until Setekh can make us shiny new buttons.
2) Aren't you being a bit melodramatic?  

"Ooooh, there's an extra row of buttons!  Save me!"

Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door..... Perhaps I'm just used to vB already, but all these extra buttons don't scare me.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Jon Handby on February 15, 2002, 08:11:50 am
Now that the 185th or 158th oh hell whatever its called! forum is up does that mean the rest of us get one soon? :D

Nah no rush...

Looking good and getting there... slowly...

Regards
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 15, 2002, 08:18:48 am
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
1)  Those blue buttons will stay until Setekh can make us shiny new buttons.
2) Aren't you being a bit melodramatic?  

"Ooooh, there's an extra row of buttons!  Save me!"

Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door..... Perhaps I'm just used to vB already, but all these extra buttons don't scare me.


1) Ahhh, crap. ;)

As for the vB being different, I couldn't agree more. I have gotten a bit more used to it from the VWBB and SB, but I'm pretty adapted already. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Darkage on February 15, 2002, 08:45:08 am
I don't see why people should wyne, it looks great, it works better in my opinion and the PM thingy is very handy and a extra row of buttons don't scare me. And all the extra functions that i don't need i just ignore them.

and they still are busy whit the board to tweak it i think you should these guy's a brake and let them handle things whit the board and sugestions about extar stuff or Avatars, Custom titles etc can be discused later.

Great work HLP !
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: mikhael on February 15, 2002, 10:12:52 am
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
1)  Those blue buttons will stay until Setekh can make us shiny new buttons.
2) Aren't you being a bit melodramatic?  

"Ooooh, there's an extra row of buttons!  Save me!"

Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door..... Perhaps I'm just used to vB already, but all these extra buttons don't scare me.


Truth be told, I think you're being more than a bit melodramatic, Shrike: "Geez, you people are acting like I nailed your dog to your door....." You asked why some of us found the new system worse than the old. You have to expect us to answer.

I don't know about anyone else, but I have to restart Netscape if I have to edit a post. That's a serious problem for me. I can't even start a new window. I have to gun the netscape I'm using, and all others running on the box. I'd switch browsers, but, unfortunately, this is the closest it gets to a standards compliant browser on this OS. If I have to restart my browser regularly (and thus close my work in other browser sessions), I'll have to give up HLP. Not much concern for you, I'm sure. I consider it a serious problem though.

You brought up the buttons and I'd like to address them too. They're clutter. They take up too much room. An option for text links (or to remove them from my view of the board) would be most welcome. As it stands right now, they take forever for all of them to load, even when they're in local cache. Since the people that created vBulletin didn't see fit to include the size attributes in the HTML, and no one else has gone behind them to do it, the page jumps and bounces continuously until they are all loaded. On a long thread, this can take a while. It makes it difficult to jump to and read the last post because by the time the page is loaded and you're on the last post, the page has already extended it down out of frame to accomodate all those annoying extra pictures. That's not your fault, Shrike: its bad interface design on the part of the vBulletin's authors.

The most glaring cause of the visual clutter, in my opinion, isn't the extraneous image buttons. Its the manner in which vBulletin displays message threads as a long chain of individual HTML tables, instead of as one large table. Thank goodness you guys haven't done anything strange in the spacer include, which would only exacerbate the problem. By having each comment in its own table, there is no visual uniformity between the comments. The columns can go all over the place willy-nilly. A single large table, with properly defined column widths, would solve that problem rather nicely.

That's my .02.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 15, 2002, 10:49:05 am
I guess that makes me a little sad... :( Mostly because, if you really don't like it (which I don't blame ... with that list of complaints, it's hard not to), it's basically become a necessary evil. UBB5.x got real buggy (lost threads, random 404s, slowness) after 25 forums and we were pushing 27 at the time; UBB6 we know The Avenger can hack, and still has lots of security holes no matter what.

vB was the best alternative. We paid for a full version, got the one and only Kier Darby to get it working on the stubborn Gamespy servers, and it's here now. Styles, we'll have to deal with.

About the tables, I think it's because a big pic can be posted in one post and it won't screw up the width of the rest of the tables... but I'm not sure, exactly.

I really don't want you to leave. I don't want anyone to leave. We're doing this for free, we're battling it out. We are. Trust us.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 15, 2002, 11:27:41 am
Quote
Originally posted by darkage
I don't see why people should wyne, it looks great, it works better in my opinion and the PM thingy is very handy and a extra row of buttons don't scare me. And all the extra functions that i don't need i just ignore them.

and they still are busy whit the board to tweak it i think you should these guy's a brake and let them handle things whit the board and sugestions about extar stuff or Avatars, Custom titles etc can be discused later.

Great work HLP !


^^^

See him? I like him! He can be my friend!
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: mikhael on February 15, 2002, 11:53:04 am
Steak, I'm not leaving and I don't think anyone will. I'll just have to give up HLP at work (there goes my chances of catching up to your postcount ;)) Alternatively, I could switch one of the unix machines to a windows box (oh there goes my sterling reputation at work. ;))

I'm sure even the people who dislike the new boards will agree with me when I say that we know you're working to make the place better. Part of that process, however, is giving feedback (especially when its asked for. c.f. Shrike's earlier comment). That's why I made the suggestions I made, coupled with the complaints I had. I don't like to whinge without offering some alternatives.

On the subject of the tables: a good work around is to force a width in the left column of the table, and leave the right column to fend for itself. That would take care of almost all of the visual 'clutter' produced by the chained-tables setup.

I personally don't care much about custom titles, avatars, or how pretty the button graphics are (tho, Steak, you do a good job), so long as I can find the information on the page, and respond to it, since that's the purpose for which a bulletin board system is intended. I'm just trying to kick out some constructive criticism (as opposed to my more common whinging ;)).
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Skippy on February 15, 2002, 12:11:13 pm
Very good. Nothing else to say :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 15, 2002, 12:26:04 pm
Well, some of the stuff Mikheal brought up is beyond our control - like he said, it's how the system is programmed.  Personally, up until now everyone I've talked to (before we got the vB) who's prefered UBB has done so mostly because they prefer the way UBB looks, whereas people who prefer vB and suggested it actually had better reasons than that.

As for NS screwing up due to vB, I can't help you there - what version are you running?  At home 4.7 didn't have any real problems with vB, except during certain periods, and during those weird periods half the bloody sites on the net crashed NS, vB or no.  And I had problems with UBB and NS as well - not loading long threads properly, stuff like that.  So from that perspective I figured vB wasn't going to make things any worse.

I never used NS6 enough, so I don't have much of an opinion on it.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 15, 2002, 12:31:44 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Well, some of the stuff Mikheal brought up is beyond our control - like he said, it's how the system is programmed.  Personally, up until now everyone I've talked to (before we got the vB) who's prefered UBB has done so mostly because they prefer the way UBB looks, whereas people who prefer vB and suggested it actually had better reasons than that.

Correct me if I'm wrong - but isn't the interface supposed to be fairly customisable anyway? I mean if we heavily customise the front end we can probably make it look like Uber-UBB or something...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: mikhael on February 15, 2002, 12:53:11 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
...
As for NS screwing up due to vB, I can't help you there - what version are you running?  At home 4.7 didn't have any real problems with vB, except during certain periods, and during those weird periods half the bloody sites on the net crashed NS, vB or no.  And I had problems with UBB and NS as well - not loading long threads properly, stuff like that.  So from that perspective I figured vB wasn't going to make things any worse.

I never used NS6 enough, so I don't have much of an opinion on it.


I'm stuck with NS6. Since my job involves webhosting, I need that stylesheet support. NS4 doesn't handle style sheets properly and its just about the only other browser that will work on my unix machines. I don't run Konqueror or its ilk, because I don't (and won't) install the extraneous crap that they require. Opera completely fails to run.

My problems with NS6 and vBulletin can be found in three places. Editting a post, replying to a post, and submitting a post. During any of these three acts, the form (the one into which I am typing right now) never finishes loading. I suspect an unclosed tag somewhere. During initial submits, this isn't a real problem, just an annoyance. During replies and edits, it becomes a serious problem becuase it never actually submits the data. The only solution is killing the mozilla processes and trying in a new process instance. I have this problem with all bulletin boards running vBulletin and NS6, even on my win2k and win9x machines at home, so I don't think it is unique to just me. I don't have any other problems with NS6 outside of its dubious interactions with vBulletin. That's not likely something you guys can fix, I think.

The other things I mentioned, however, should be easy to do with a little bit of jiggerypokery in the code. They'll take time to sort out, but I expect all the important ones will get done with time.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Skippy on February 15, 2002, 01:16:48 pm
Netscape 6.2.1 works fine for me, except for the forms size :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 15, 2002, 01:32:33 pm
The Avatars

Make them gifs. That way you can give them some transparency and stop the 'Black Box' effect on the burgundy posts.

EDIT: And the PM pop-up thingy is cool.

EDIT2: And in the PM window the 'Reply to this Message' button's picture ain't there.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 15, 2002, 01:35:06 pm
One step at a time son, one step at a time (personally I want to make sure they're going to work and be used before I spend time making them work as you said).
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 15, 2002, 02:02:38 pm
How in Bob's name do you send up custom avatars? :mad:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 15, 2002, 02:27:34 pm
You dont. Admin people are the only ones with avater editing access at this stage - you can select one from the public selection or not have one at all - but we aren't going to do individual avatars. If you want one for a hosted project then you'll have to wait untill we've sorted that out - shouldn't take long.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 15, 2002, 10:03:18 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
You dont. Admin people are the only ones with avater editing access at this stage - you can select one from the public selection or not have one at all - but we aren't going to do individual avatars. If you want one for a hosted project then you'll have to wait untill we've sorted that out - shouldn't take long.


actually, I'd just like me and my staff people (if they want, of course) to have the old OTT avatar :) no work at all, it already exists :)
Hmm, in fact, actually, I don't care much.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Vertigo1 on February 15, 2002, 10:49:26 pm
Since this one actually loads within a decent ammount of time.... I rather like it. :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 15, 2002, 11:42:13 pm
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506


actually, I'd just like me and my staff people (if they want, of course) to have the old OTT avatar :) no work at all, it already exists :)
Hmm, in fact, actually, I don't care much.


The thing is, it doesn't let us plug in a URL... it's different. If it were the same, everyone's avs would be back already... pity. :o
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Xelion on February 16, 2002, 01:10:53 am
New buttons look much, much better than the previous ;)

Quote
Setekh
We paid for a full version


I'd like to believe that HLP purchased a BB because they cost around more or less Aus$200 and you can only use them for one site there not licensed for more than one!!!
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 16, 2002, 06:55:37 am
her... damn the :WTF: smiley isn't there yet ...

Thunder: It has now... :wtf : = :wtf:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: wEvil on February 16, 2002, 07:37:22 am
Ive been telling everyone very loudly to go Vbb or PHPbb.

I think its a massive improvement, more complex to get the hang of but in the end it will be worth it.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Sandwich on February 16, 2002, 07:42:41 am
Quote
Originally posted by wEvil
...PHPbb...


Agreed. :D

However, they just got the forums converted to vB, so i ain't complaining - it works, and it works nicely, I might add. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: an0n on February 16, 2002, 11:15:39 am
(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/vacuum.jpg)

http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/smilies/vacuum.jpg

:doubt: :wtf:

Very amusing.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 16, 2002, 11:46:43 am
If you find that funny you need help, it's just what the model happens to be named on my computer - it's not like everyones meant to look at the image names anyway :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: JR2000Z on February 16, 2002, 01:05:14 pm
Um...I'm not sure if this has been covered before, how many posts do you need to get to the top 'Member' rank or whatever.

Because I used to be a member,  and of course now I'm a junior member so.....
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Skippy on February 16, 2002, 01:11:30 pm
You just need 100 posts, if I'm wrong please correct me :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: DragonClaw on February 16, 2002, 01:19:54 pm
He means the top rank you can get before receiving a custom title...

Sandwich has 1300 and he's a "vet"...I have 1600 and am still a vet, so I'm guessing thats the last one, or maybe there's another... Admins can tell you :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Skippy on February 16, 2002, 01:35:22 pm
Me, I had the grade of Appolyon, though I posted only about 150 messages
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 16, 2002, 01:54:29 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Skippy
Me, I had the grade of Appolyon, though I posted only about 150 messages


you were one of the lucky few who had a custom title from the moderators :wink:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 16, 2002, 03:18:58 pm
I had the title "It's coming..." :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Galemp on February 16, 2002, 05:42:35 pm
Do I have a title?

Edit: Yes, it's "member." Ugh, trying not to think about it...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Stryke 9 on February 16, 2002, 07:51:27 pm
"Vet" doesn't quite do it for me... may I make a few suggestions?:D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 16, 2002, 08:27:03 pm
If you like... but custom titles are not at the top of the to-do list, believe me.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Thorn on February 16, 2002, 08:50:17 pm
Other than the backwards Reply/New Post buttons, its working fine for me...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: delta_7890 on February 16, 2002, 08:57:32 pm
I miss the hyperlink avatars.  :(
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Grey Wolf on February 16, 2002, 09:04:19 pm
Thank you Maeglamor for giving me back my title! You are the best staff member a person could have, especially considering your also HLP staff.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Bobboau on February 17, 2002, 01:27:12 am
I for one would like to make my own avitar, staff aproveal would be required for obvius reasons, but I would like to have a Corybant or something in there.

also there is some weirdness that happens sometimes when I refresh, actualy most times
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CougEr on February 17, 2002, 04:59:53 am
I guess  I haven't had a chance to play with it yet.
   is it HTML enabled?



OKAY   how do I fix up my siggy?
 obviously  I'll have to learn how to split the atom first.
   Now I know whay I do not like this  
 too much for Geeks
 too many options  and most useless.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 05:07:46 am
Sorry Bob, I'm afraid the one thing we're definitely not doing is custom avatars at this stage.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Zeronet on February 17, 2002, 05:41:18 am
Have you decided whether avatars are going to be just for hosted staff etc or not?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 05:46:32 am
We're still looking at it - it depends what we can do with the avatars I think. The main problem is that many people work on different hosted site projects and need two, sometimes three avatars. At this stage we can only give people one each (I think) and can't hyperlink the images to the sites.

Time will tell :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Nico on February 17, 2002, 06:52:36 am
for the hyperlink, can't help, but for peoples who works for two or three campaigns, just put all the avatars on the same pic :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 06:55:24 am
I was thinking of doing that with my avatars, but it's not really a good solution in the long run.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Unidan on February 17, 2002, 07:49:22 am
Quote
Originally posted by Shrike
Over a quarter of the votes consider the old UBB better.
Why?  Explain your logic.


Well.... I guess i just don't like the change. UBB is my favorite type of billboard. Yes i do see you can do some better things with vBulletin. If you guys want to have vBulletin, i won't fight you. But, can you guys please change my title back to Senior Member or Valued Member?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 08:07:57 am
Titles re-arranged, a few more added and generally (IMO) improved.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: wEvil on February 17, 2002, 09:12:01 am
PHPbb is by far the best i've used so far, but its all down to personal taste.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: wEvil on February 17, 2002, 09:15:50 am
Quote
Originally posted by Stryke 9
"Vet" doesn't quite do it for me... may I make a few suggestions?:D


COme on...we all know you like goats and having your hand stuck up a cows... :eek2:

well...nevermind.



:eek:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Darkstar on February 17, 2002, 11:35:26 am
I love the new look and all the new features great work guys:jaw:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: DragonClaw on February 17, 2002, 02:00:14 pm
Quote
Originally posted by wEvil


COme on...we all know you like goats and having your hand stuck up a cows... :eek2:


Hey, remember... Stryke "lieks" goats. :D


And before the change I my title was "TAP Website Slave"
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 17, 2002, 04:31:30 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
Titles re-arranged, a few more added and generally (IMO) improved.
My choices in the matter, of course, being stupid and pointless, right?  :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 04:34:31 pm
I figured they were the default ones (aside from HLPFanboi) since they had rather odd choices for numbers of posts needed for them... change them back if you like, it makes no difference to me :nod:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Shrike on February 17, 2002, 04:47:56 pm
Bah, I forgot what they were anyhow. :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 17, 2002, 04:52:07 pm
They can't have been that good then can they :drevil:

Anyways, the whole forum is in a state of change and improvement at this stage - might as well sort things out...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 17, 2002, 06:08:51 pm
Hey T, you done running around doing crazy stuff yet? :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Cetanu on February 18, 2002, 02:38:00 am
General Freespace forum:
Reply button > New Thread
New Thread button > Reply
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 18, 2002, 02:42:38 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
Hey T, you done running around doing crazy stuff yet? :D

Yes :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Darkage on February 19, 2002, 03:23:41 am
You guy's are weird:D
Hmm..maby i shouldn't be talking i am the one who is posting pics of cornflakes and healty drinks and the FOJ...Ok forget what i said about weird stuff:D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2002, 04:32:37 am
W00t, interface graphics all done up. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Ryx on February 19, 2002, 04:36:34 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
W00t, interface graphics all done up. :)


1337! ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2002, 04:57:27 am
Lol, ya like? ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 19, 2002, 05:29:23 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
Lol, ya like? ;)


(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/icons/icon14.gif)

however having the 1337 new graphics sprinkled in with the default vB ones like (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/images/announce.gif) looks a little jacked but that may be a little difficult to fix...
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2002, 05:48:55 am
Lol, oops! I forgot about those ones. I'm getting on it... for now, just smile and be happy with what I've knocked up so far. ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Admiral LSD on February 19, 2002, 05:51:39 am
Quote
Originally posted by Setekh
for now, just smile and be happy with what I've knocked up so far. ;)


what do you think the "(http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/icons/icon14.gif)" was for at the start of that post? ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: delta_7890 on February 19, 2002, 06:02:23 am
What happened to :jaw: ?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 19, 2002, 06:15:04 am
Heheh, thanks Admiral. ;) :yes: to you too. :D

:jaw:? Uhh... I kinda liked it, but Thunder & Shrike had it removed - it was screwing up the smilies table to the left o' the reply box, so... :o
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 19, 2002, 07:32:21 am
A smaller version may yet be added (the real X factor was the space it took up and messed with the templates). Jaws don't have to drop that far ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 19, 2002, 05:35:20 pm
Hold on, I'm sure there's an option to not have it in the smilies table on the left...if that's what you mean :nod:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Galemp on February 19, 2002, 09:58:49 pm
Well can we at least rename :eek: to :jaw: so we don't get posts with :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: ? It looks really stupid.

Oh, and can I have my FS1 Port avatar back? Don't worry, I'll only ask once, politely.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 20, 2002, 02:02:47 am
Thanks, GE. For all those with avatars; don't worry, we know who you are (I know especially, since most of the avatars you guys have had recently, I added personally). The only reason you don't have them is because we've been caught up in lots o' other things. :o
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Zeronet on February 20, 2002, 06:26:30 pm
The names were the most important. :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: BlackDove on February 21, 2002, 01:35:57 am
ME LIKES, ME LIKES VERY MUCH :D :D :D :D :D :D

(http://server45.hypermart.net/icestar/blackdove/MELIKES.jpg)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: BlackDove on February 21, 2002, 01:36:58 am
oh crap this enlarged the thread...uhh...what do i do to shrink the thing?
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CougEr on February 21, 2002, 01:39:53 am
Looking good boys!  and girls   :)

is there any girls on this board?


[edit]   HELP my siggy looks like crap now.  :(
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Fineus on February 21, 2002, 02:09:05 am
Quote
Well can we at least rename :eek: to :jaw: so we don't get posts with :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: ? It looks really stupid.

Don't bother, I'll upload the :eek: smily to :jaw: so that it appears there - then when I'm done finding a smaller Jaw smily I'll upload it and all will be right with the world.

[/quote]oh crap this enlarged the thread...uhh...what do i do to shrink the thing?[/quote]
Not sure yet... have you read the help files?

Quote

is there any girls on this board?

Don't think so.

Quote

[edit] HELP my siggy looks like crap now.

Remove the [ small] tags from it - the forum automatically resizes them.
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: CougEr on February 21, 2002, 02:49:52 am
thanks  I'll try that

it's the image that won't come through
 
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 21, 2002, 08:28:25 am
Quote
Originally posted by BD
ME LIKES, ME LIKES VERY MUCH :D :D :D :D :D :D

(http://server45.hypermart.net/icestar/blackdove/MELIKES.jpg)


:lol:

Glad you like it. ;)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 21, 2002, 04:58:47 pm
Quick! Which icon's Spirit! :D
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 22, 2002, 08:35:06 pm
It's not my desktop, and Spirit runs on Linux :)
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: WMCoolmon on February 22, 2002, 08:42:46 pm
Oh, oops...
curses, foiled again.

I wondered who Big Sis Sa-Mata was... :D Did not see the original message...:o
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 22, 2002, 08:58:16 pm
Quote
curses, foiled again.


:drevil:
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: BlackDove on February 23, 2002, 10:09:13 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Oh, oops...
curses, foiled again.

I wondered who Big Sis Sa-Mata was... :D Did not see the original message...:o


That's private :p :p :p
Title: Thoughts on the new forums
Post by: Setekh on February 27, 2002, 03:51:57 am
This thread has had its time. Unstickied. :)