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Title: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 11, 2008, 01:21:19 am
Guys:

It's the mission that we try to help patrol 11-A; we get overwhelmed by Shivans & there is NO way to win---just like the debrief says...but when I try to accept the results I'm told that I cannot got forward having failed the mission;

Any ideas guys?

TIA

NickM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 11, 2008, 09:55:36 pm
High Max:

OK then...but given the sheer numbers of enemy craft assaulting us CONSTANTLY  :eek2:, how do we survive long enough to run from the Sathanas? :shaking:

TIA

NM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: CKid on February 11, 2008, 10:03:54 pm
turn down the difficulty. Thats what I did when I couldn't beat the mission. Also stay close to your capships for extra support.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 12, 2008, 12:42:29 am
...or I could use the cheats! I make EVERYONE indestructible! :lol:

Thanks a bunch!


NM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Titan on February 13, 2008, 02:20:52 pm
what is IDOH4?
Title: Re: Playing ITDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Jeff Vader on February 13, 2008, 02:28:55 pm
ITDOH, Chapter 4 (http://hades-combine.com/web/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=32).
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 20, 2008, 11:47:15 pm
Guys:

I keep not passing; IF all the ships are destroyed I fail & if I fail there is no advancing; IF I manage to protect all the cap ships AND stay alive, NOTHING happens---I spend close to three hours (compressed time of course) shooting at debris--AND if I leave before getting the orders I get a fail anyways....any more suggestions?

TIA

NM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: blowfish on February 20, 2008, 11:58:51 pm
Waaaait... Which mission is this?
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 21, 2008, 01:22:48 am
blowfish:

It's the mission that we try to help patrol 11-A; it takes place in the material disk of the black hole; I think the mission is called 'Heard it once too often' or something like that;

NM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: blowfish on February 21, 2008, 08:38:01 am
Hmm...It looks like the Ravana has to be destroyed for the campaign to progress.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: blowfish on February 21, 2008, 08:35:28 pm
Look at this:

From the Chapter 4 Campaign File:
Code: [Select]
$Mission: CH4-A2.fs2
+Flags: 0
+Formula: ( cond
   (
      ( is-previous-goal-false
         "CH4-A2.fs2"
         "Assist Patrol Group"
      )
      ( next-mission "Ch4-A4.fs2" )
   )
   ( ( true ) ( next-mission "CH4-A2.fs2" ) )
)

+Level: 13
+Position: 0

From CH4-A2.fs2:
Code: [Select]
$Type: Primary
+Name: Assist Patrol Group
$MessageNew:  XSTR("Reinforce patrol group 11-B", -1)
$end_multi_text
$Formula: ( is-destroyed-delay 0 "SD Ravana" )

The Ravana must be destroyed or the campaign will not progress.

EDIT: Looks like I read wrong.  The Ravana must not be destroyed for the campaign to progress.  Or am I reading this wrong?
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 21, 2008, 10:23:18 pm
Guys:

Thanks for the info; be assured that the Ravana WILL be destroyed; now IF one of the GTVA ships has to be destroyed as well to order a retreat then that's a different kettle of fishes-IE: Which Corvette has to bite the dust?

NM
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: blowfish on February 21, 2008, 10:40:54 pm
Well, it looks like I read wrong.  Unless I am still reading wrong, the Ravana must not be destroyed for the campaign to progress.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Ransom on February 22, 2008, 05:40:41 am
No, you got it right the first time. The Ravana has to be destroyed for that goal to complete.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: blowfish on February 22, 2008, 09:48:27 am
No, you got it right the first time. The Ravana has to be destroyed for that goal to complete.

But the campaign progresses if the goal is false.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Ransom on February 22, 2008, 10:59:49 am
Oh.

Yes.
Title: Re: Playing IDOH4 & I have just played the 'unwinnable' mission...
Post by: Mitsialis on February 23, 2008, 12:32:36 am
Guys:

So to paraphrase the old wives tale about(feed the fever starve the cold), is it: "Kill Ravana, save the fleet" or "Kill Ravana, kill a Corvette"?  :D

NM