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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Darkage on February 17, 2002, 02:43:05 pm
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Sory for the low res render i'll render a high res version later. but for now enjoy.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/Minnar.jpg)
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:yes:
IIRC, we only saw it once in the B5 series (episode1 - season1)
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Very nice :nod:
Try adding a little light to the visible side of the Sharlins though and perhaps a bit of background/edge glow to the beams to make them appear more powerful. They look a little weedy as is.
Can't wait to see the high detail version :)
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Thanks....i'll add a small light to make the sharlins more visible:) and i'll try to make the beams a bit bigger and more glowie...i also added a whitestar in it.
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I finaly finshed the High res version and i added some more ships in it:)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/b5.jpg)
Enjoy
Ships
2 Whitestars
2 Sharlins
1 G'Quan
1 T'Loth
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Dude... :eek:
:yes: That's gotta be the best render I've seen in a good whole month. Amazing. The lighting could be a little more dynamic, but ... wow. That's one heck of a killer job. :)
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Originally posted by Setekh
Dude... :eek:
:yes: That's gotta be the best render I've seen in a good whole month. Amazing. The lighting could be a little more dynamic, but ... wow. That's one heck of a killer job. :)
Thanks !:)
I am not very happy about the light but i'll sort it out later, and i have decided to animate this scene makeing a flyby whit these ships.
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Don't you have to credit people when you use THEIR ships? Any model sites for B5 I find say to give credits to the appropriate person in your renders...
Good render... but maybe sometime use ur own effects and backgrounds, i'd like to see how it turns out.
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Originally posted by RKIF-DragonClaw
Don't you have to credit people when you use THEIR ships? Any model sites for B5 I find say to give credits to the appropriate person in your renders...
Good render... but maybe sometime use ur own effects and backgrounds, i'd like to see how it turns out.
I forget things sometimes dude....and the star field i made it my self....
But i'll give them credit for it now...
Credits go to the people who made these models...
Better?
I used my own effects when i still used TS4.2, don't wory i'll make my own backgrounds and effects.
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Man, that is one of the nicest renders i've seen. the background, the starfield, the lighting, all on point. But the planets are by far the best part. Good Job
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Like the scene, are those the whitestars with the hideously huge poly counts?
My only problem is the planet's details are TOO detailed, should be blurrier. This stems from the light overhead being really sharp. Feels to me like the planets alongside one of those ships instead of in the distance.
But otherwise a good pic. I think I have the stats for the narn ship somewhere on my machine too. *searchsearch*
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I've never seen a single episode of B5, but those ships (especially the Whitestar) kick ass! Great render, man!
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Originally posted by NegspectahDek
Man, that is one of the nicest renders i've seen. the background, the starfield, the lighting, all on point. But the planets are by far the best part. Good Job
Actually the planet is the part I dislike most. First, it shouldn't be lightened from the top, plus it really looks small and close.
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Originally posted by venom2506
Actually the planet is the part I dislike most. First, it shouldn't be lightened from the top, plus it really looks small and close.
I forgot to rotate the poles of the planet abit, but still it came out rather nicely.:)
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Very nice! I like it. But move the WhiteStar a bit to the left. The one that is partially blocking the TLoth cruiser and it would be almost perfect.
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Originally posted by delta_7890
I've never seen a single episode of B5, but those ships (especially the Whitestar) kick ass! Great render, man!
Babylon 5 renewed my faith in Sci fi :nod:
The new render is even better darkage.
A really cool scene. :yes:
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I've seen the legend of the rangers this afternoon :) It's cool, but... is it me or they really overuse that EA cruiser shape a bit? C'mon, there's the basic one, the one with the spinny thing, the one in that movie with side plates, I've seen one with spikes... isn't that a bit too much?
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I've just been re-looking over the render again, dude... and it's really nothing short of brilliant. The attention to detail is outstanding. Keep it up, man... :)
PS. Venom, where did you find Legend of the Rangers (LotR! Lol!)? Did it actually show on TV or did you Kazaa it? :)
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Originally posted by Setekh
I've just been re-looking over the render again, dude... and it's really nothing short of brilliant. The attention to detail is outstanding. Keep it up, man... :)
PS. Venom, where did you find Legend of the Rangers (LotR! Lol!)? Did it actually show on TV or did you Kazaa it? :)
Thanks dude !..i made a render whit a close up of 2 Sharlins
i'll post it later..
Indeed allot of detail even the front edges glow on the whitestar
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Originally posted by Setekh
I've just been re-looking over the render again, dude... and it's really nothing short of brilliant. The attention to detail is outstanding. Keep it up, man... :)
PS. Venom, where did you find Legend of the Rangers (LotR! Lol!)? Did it actually show on TV or did you Kazaa it? :)
Kazaa :)
yeah, amusing all the lotr you can find. Look! lords of the Realms 3 is almost out :p
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Originally posted by darkage
Thanks dude !..i made a render whit a close up of 2 Sharlins
i'll post it later..
Indeed allot of detail even the front edges glow on the whitestar
yeah but no: they glow only in light :p
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Two new renders nothing special but still i think they came out nice.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/Sharlin1.jpg)
Here i wanted to see how close up renders would look like.
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/warlock1.jpg)
And just a simple render of the Warlock.
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Dunno if it's the render of the ship itslef, but that warlock really looks plain :p
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I love them. You can call them 'beauty shots'... it sounds cool. :D
Can someone give me the background on the Warlock-class of ships? :)
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Background info?
Okies. :)
Information courtesy of...
http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rift_SF_Conv.htm
I exclude any hard gaming facts, like numbers of turrets and such.
Also note that the Kitsune who runs the site below is NOT ME.
Just one of those popular names.
He has done a wonderful job hunting down information on MANY sci-fi ships and converting them into easily understandable formats.
The Earthforce Warlock class Destroyer:
After the fiasco of the invasion of Akdor in the Shilassen Triumvirate, it became clear to the leaders of Earthforce that a new kind of ship was needed. The existing Nova battlecruisers and Omega Destroyers were lacking in the ability to support major troop deployments. After some deliberation it was decided that the new ship would still be a Destroyer type, but that it would contain many improvements concerning troop housing, fighter and shuttle deployment, and in logistics handling. Also its ability to provide heavy support fire for ground troops would be much better than that of the previous classes of Earthforce ships.
And so the design work began on what became known as "The Warlock Project"
Under president Clark the project moved ahead fast, yet at the end of 2261 the first prototype of the class was nowhere near its final construction. Much work still needed to be done before its weaponry and armor could be fitted. And special weapons and armor these promised to be. Thanks to a little known alliance with a race known only as "the Shadows" and some of their minions, the EA had gotten its hands on things like Bio-Organic armor and heavy Fusion cannons. There was even talk of a Gravitic drive, but that system failed to be delivered. With these systems the Warlocks would be almost unstoppable. As it was, these systems were not integrated into the Warlock design. Captain Sheridan of Babylon 5 had mounted a offensive against the forces loyal to President Clark, and in a last-ditch effort to stop Sheridan's fleet, the advanced systems were placed on and in a group of Omega Class destroyers, creating the infamous "Advanced" destroyer. In the final battle for the Earth Alliance all of these vessels were destroyed, and the Shadows minions (the Drahk) hastily departed Earth space, taking the last pieces of Bio-Tech with them. Or so everyone thinks....
The Warlock Class Destroyers as they finally appeared from the shipyards of Earth still look immensely impressive: well over 1.2 miles long, and bristling with weapons, they are still the very best that the Earth Alliance has ever had.
The Warlocks look like throwbacks to pre-Omega times, because they lack a rotating section, and their main body is a single structure into which launch bays and sensors have been integrated. The entire top of this structure is a sleek joining of armor plates, on which weapon emplacements are located. On the sides there are more irregularities. In the front third of the ship there are several cargo and ordnance airlocks, which can be used to quickly load and unload cargo and things like troopships, although at present it is unclear exactly how much material these spaces can hold. Aft of these are specialized missile launchers, holding huge missiles intended for strategic bombardment.
The normal fighter and shuttle bays have a different pattern than with the Omega. The forward bay, located under the nose of the ship, is used exclusively for launching fighters, and is sealed when not in use. Fighters are recovered through a hangar on the right aft side of the main hull, and shuttles are both launched and recovered using this bay. The flight deck of the Warlock actually runs the entire length of the ship, and is of a huge volume. On the left aft side of the hull there is a protrusion which marks the engineering and maintenance section for all the shuttles and fighters.
The engine section holds four upgraded Ion Fusion engines in a armored housing that gives rather better protection than the housing of a Omega Destroyer. A late addition to this design are two Gravimetric engines. These are placed on the top and the bottom of the drive section, and are of a Minbari design, which has been adapted and build by EA engineers. This system was obtained through the EA entering the Interstellar Alliance. It is also this system that explains the lack of a rotating section: the Warlock design is the first EA ship to have true artificial gravity, although this is only .2 or .3 G`s as opposed to the 1 G that a rotating section can supply.
Inside of the ship there are huge spaces available to house troops. The normal compliment of Marines is five thousand. In this configuration there is ample space onboard for training chambers, and the Marines and the normal crew of the ship have a lot of room. Totally different are the conditions onboard when the ship carries the maximum amount of troops that it can transport into a battle zone. In that scenario about thirty thousand troops are carried, and space is at a absolute premium, with most of the troops relegated to their bunks, coming out of them in shifts to use the few remaining exercise rooms, and to eat.
Even so, the Warlock design has room for a small hydroponics section, which can supply the regular crew and Marine compliment with a (limited) supply of fresh fruit. This space is also important for psychological reasons, since a Warlock has a substantial greater range than previous warships. This means that even during a trip of two years (the maximum duration of a Warlock) crew and Marines still have access to a garden, something to associate with a planet.
The weapons of the Warlock are conventional in nature, although there are a lot of them. The largest weapons on the ship are two Particle Beam cannons. These are located under the nose of the ship, and are the heaviest weapon ever mounted on a Earthforce ship. Previously these weapons were only mounted in the G.O.D. satellites that make up Earths defense. The power drain of these weapons is enormous, and each cannon requires a recharge time of fifteen seconds between firings. On the plus side, their range is great, and they are so powerful that a unshielded opponent can be cut in half with a single burst. Secondary weapon systems are eight heavy Pulse Cannon turrets, equal to those on the Nova class ships. Five of these are mounted on the top of the ship, and another three are mounted on the bottom. Also carried are three heavy railgun turrets, one on the nose of the ship, and two on the bottom facing rearward. Mounted on the top and the bottom of the Recovery bay and on the other side on top and the bottom of the maintenance section are four medium pulse cannons like those mounted on the Omega class. These turret mounted weapons have a excellent firing arc.
The ships lighter weaponry consists of nine light pulse cannons. One of these is mounted on the forward boom. Two are located on the rim of the top, and another two on the bottom rim of the shuttle/recovery bay, a pattern mirrored on the other side of the ship, where the maintenance shops protrude slightly.
For even more weapons the ship carries twenty four (!) particle beam guns. Eight turrets line the upper part of the ship. A further eight turrets are located in fours around the midship cargo airlocks, and four more are mounted on the front part of the engine section. The last four are located on the aft part of the engine section.
Rounding this off are two missile launchers on the sides of the ship. Each launcher holds six large missile silos and seven smaller ones. There are no direct reloads for the large launchers, but the small launchers each have ten reloads. Off course more ordnance can be carried in the cargo hold of the ship, but it takes a lengthy EVA operation to reload the launchers: this is never done in combat. Of note should be the fact that the large missiles have Multiple warheads with a *nuclear* payload. The smaller missiles (still long range missiles) can be equipped with a variety of warheads, *including* nuclear ones!
The ships armor looks unlike that of previous EA ships. It is a Crystalline/Plasteel armor mesh, and deflects large amounts of energy away. This would seem to be a copy of the Armor on the IA Victory class Destroyers, but is less effective and is in reality a development of the EA itself. It has been made possible due to the study of Shadow Bio-armor, pieces of Minbari Crystalline armor, and the study of the armor the Dilgar used.
As has been indicated, improvements have been made in the area of drive systems. Not only are there four Ion Fusion engines, there are also two Gravimetric engines. The Combined use of these engines yields a acceleration normally only achieved by Earthforce fighters: well over ten G`s. On their own either drive system can accelerate the ship with about five G maximum. The advantage of the Gravimetric systems is that they actually provide artificial gravity, and dampen the felt acceleration inside of the ship, so that even at full thrust the crew can perform its duties in a normal fashion. Another advantage of the gravimetric engines is that they require no reaction mass. This is one of the major contributions to the extended range that the Warlock ships have. In normal operations both drive systems are run at low power, so as not to overwork either system. It should also be remembered that the Gravitic drive is a *new* system. It might yet suffer from small problems in its functioning.
Because of the improved drive systems, and a improved Hyperspace navigation system, the Warlock design can achieve almost twice the speed in hyperspace of previous EA designs.
The Warlock class carries forty eight fighters, all SA-26 Thunderbolt Starfuries. Furthermore it carries a standard sixteen atmospheric shuttles, and eight intra system shuttles. For assault missions there is room for three dozen assault shuttles, although all but six of these will be carried in the cargo bay or externally, and must be boarded through docking them at airlocks.
Sources have indicated that the Earth Alliance is planning to build well over a hundred of these mighty ships. Considering the price of these ships that might be a overly optimistic view, for each of these ships costs as much as the infamous "Advanced Destroyers" did, well over fifty billion credits per ship.
Contrary to popular belief there is no single Destroyer with the name "Warlock", as this was the project name. At least one of the commissioned ships has the name "Damocles". Other, rumored, names sound more ominous and include designations like "Sorcerer", "Necromancer" and "Enchantress".
Model: Earthforce Warlock Class Destroyer
Class: Battleship / Assault Carrier
Crew: 1,200 (60 Officers and 1,140 Enlisted)
Troops: Standard; 5,000, Maximum; 30,000
Vehicle Compliment: 48 SA-26 Thunderbolt Star Fighters
16 Standard Atmospheric Shuttles
8 Intrasystem Shuttles
Statistical Data
Height: 1,700 feet (550 meters)
Length: 6643.4 feet (1,993 meters)
Width: 1131.1 feet (344.5 meters)
Weight: 66.8 million tons (60.6 million metric tons)
Power System: 4 Tokamak Corp. 650 Fusion Reactors (12 year duration). 2 Tokamak Corp. Ultima 2000 ADV gravimetric Fusion Reactors (15 year duration) However, it is recommended that the drive and power system have routine maintenance every 5 years. Also, the ship only carries about a seven month supply of reaction mass for the ion engines. (Note: the Gravitic drives don`t need any!)
Cargo: 500,000 tons
Cost: 50 billion credits to construct . Any race in the three galaxies would pay several times that amount for a fully functional Warlock due to the Shadow technology that is incorporated into it.
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wow :eek:
that's a lot of info
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Yeah...also fun to read. This ship seems like it can't be destroyed:)