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Site Management => Site Support / Feedback => Topic started by: Stealth on April 17, 2008, 09:39:45 pm

Title: Computer forum.
Post by: Stealth on April 17, 2008, 09:39:45 pm
I look through the first page of thread listings in the "general discussion" forum, and i counted SEVEN computer-related questions (problems, comments, concerns, etc.)

We have a seperate gaming forum, why not seperate the computer discussions... i guarantee we'd probably have a LOT more threads in it within a couple of months.

i know this has been posed before
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: achtung on April 18, 2008, 05:12:52 am
I like the idea.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: karajorma on April 19, 2008, 02:31:36 pm
Why did the idea get nixed last time?
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Stealth on April 19, 2008, 03:34:52 pm
i'm not sure why, but i want to say it was something like "Not necessary".
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: phreak on April 20, 2008, 11:41:15 am
probably because it would remove the last "useful" part of the main HLP general discussion forum.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Stealth on April 21, 2008, 02:36:44 pm
well the administrators have moved everything out of "HLP General"...may as well 'categorize' even further, right?
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 21, 2008, 05:00:45 pm
I third this idea.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Unknown Target on April 23, 2008, 02:47:10 am
Dear god, do we need another sub forum? We have four separate forums for what used to be one single, lively main forum. Now we have four much less active ones. Yeesh.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on April 23, 2008, 06:57:44 am
What about "throw everything back into GD"? Might even save some disk space...
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 23, 2008, 07:12:28 am
Oh, that'd be so cool. Having just one board: "Discussion". And posting to it wouldn't affect one's post count.

Srsly, I'd also fancy a board for computer/other tech stuff. But, if the high council doesn't want to, fine. I won't start a fight.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 23, 2008, 08:45:09 am
I say let them eat cake..................




But just don't leave crumbs about or god help you all..............
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on April 23, 2008, 09:03:36 am
Oh, that'd be so cool. Having just one board: "Discussion". And posting to it wouldn't affect one's post count.
You know what I mean.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 23, 2008, 09:59:14 am
Oh, that'd be so cool. Having just one board: "Discussion". And posting to it wouldn't affect one's post count.
You know what I mean.
Expressing one's emotions is tricky at best, when the only tool of communication is text. I know, I know...
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Mobius on April 27, 2008, 10:39:09 am
Dear god, do we need another sub forum? We have four separate forums for what used to be one single, lively main forum. Now we have four much less active ones. Yeesh.

Meh. We don't even have release specific subforums in FSUP, Missions and Campaigns, FSCRP and FS Modding, which WOULD be useful.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Snail on April 27, 2008, 10:44:26 am
Meh. We don't even have release specific subforums in FSUP, Missions and Campaigns, FSCRP and FS Modding, which WOULD be useful.
It's a forum, not a website, things are nigh impossible to organize.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Unknown Target on April 29, 2008, 07:08:20 am
Oh, that'd be so cool. Having just one board: "Discussion". And posting to it wouldn't affect one's post count.

That's what it used to be, except it was called "Hard Light" and posting in it did affect your postcount. I still prefer that way over others, rather than compartmentalizing all discussion until it's so intensely specific that it either becomes confusing to locate (this has to do with computers AND art - which forum does it go in!?), stale, or both.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Flipside on April 29, 2008, 07:26:52 am
Dear god, do we need another sub forum? We have four separate forums for what used to be one single, lively main forum. Now we have four much less active ones. Yeesh.

Meh. We don't even have release specific subforums in FSUP, Missions and Campaigns, FSCRP and FS Modding, which WOULD be useful.

If you break up the subheadings too much, not only does the site become a pain to navigate but you seperate everyone up into their particular groups, no discussion really goes on and you actually end up losing members, because there's no room to get away from the subject at hand. I prefer more generic headings because it means there's always something of interest to someone in there.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 29, 2008, 07:28:54 am
Oh, that'd be so cool. Having just one board: "Discussion". And posting to it wouldn't affect one's post count.

That's what it used to be, except it was called "Hard Light" and posting in it did affect your postcount. I still prefer that way over others, rather than compartmentalizing all discussion until it's so intensely specific that it either becomes confusing to locate (this has to do with computers AND art - which forum does it go in!?), stale, or both.
Aye. Aye. Overvompartmentalizing is not ideal, I admit that. But I still think that some boards are useful, like FreeSpace Open Support, which is hopefully checked out by new people who have issues. But I suppose modding and FREDding could share a board. And it is always good to have General Discussion as a board that mostly deals with Real LifeTM issues.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Stealth on April 29, 2008, 10:31:45 am
ummm... i just want to point out, that 2 years ago (OK maybe more.  maybe like 3 or 4) this forum didn't have the 15 subforums that it does now.  and it was more active than ever.
Title: About the Computer Forum
Post by: an0n on April 29, 2008, 12:01:51 pm
I have a slightly alternate suggestion.

Everything.

Not just general computing stuff about 1337 case mods and which hard-drive has the best heat-bleed ratings. Everything. A whole section.

With individual and fairly general forums contained therein to handle:


It'd benefit the userbase by whoring for new coders, and it'd help attract and train up people looking to get into the SCP.

Just my 2c.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: karajorma on April 29, 2008, 12:40:32 pm
But I suppose modding and FREDding could share a board.

Actually I'm quite glad they don't share a board. The two are pretty separate. If we're going to combine two boards I'd suggest Cross-Platform and SCP support since they are basically the same thing these days with the exception of a few threads which could go in recent builds or the main SCP forum.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Unknown Target on May 01, 2008, 09:29:34 am
ummm... i just want to point out, that 2 years ago (OK maybe more.  maybe like 3 or 4) this forum didn't have the 15 subforums that it does now.  and it was more active than ever.

Just wanna echo this. I've always been against all these subforums, adding more is just getting to the point of lunacy IMO.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Stealth on May 01, 2008, 10:56:06 am
agreed.

BUT - if we're going to seperate them into all these nonsensical categories, may as well keep at it, right?
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: karajorma on May 01, 2008, 11:54:53 am
I have a slightly alternate suggestion.

Everything.


It'd benefit the userbase by whoring for new coders, and it'd help attract and train up people looking to get into the SCP.

Hmmm. I'm not sure I like the idea of divorcing the SCP discussion from the SCP forums but I do like the idea of getting more people coding. In general we do a lot better recruiting people from within the community and getting them to code than we do attracting people from outside and getting them to join the community. In fact Taylor and Swifty are the only coders who weren't regulars here before they started coding for the SCP IIRC. And Taylor was already coding for the SCP before he joined us anyway.

Anything that helps with getting us more coders though is very welcome.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Polpolion on May 01, 2008, 04:12:05 pm
I like the part about helping new coders. :nervous: I'd be all for helping out the SCP if I had more than two months of c++ classes with a teacher who doesn't teach.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 01, 2008, 06:57:51 pm
So can you use either C or C++ to code for the SCP? I assume the .C files in the code pertain to C, and the .CPP files pertain to C++.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Polpolion on May 01, 2008, 08:06:07 pm
From what I understand, they're the same, except that c++ adds stuff. Pretty much any compiler that can do one, can do the other.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: an0n on May 01, 2008, 08:09:04 pm
There's some syntax differences too, iirc.

But, yeah. If you're using a fancy suite, it should do fine. But if it's compiling in C++ and back-interpreting for any pure-C functions it comes across, there's the risk of it coming across a function that was written as C, but is valid in C++ and thus gets an unexpected result.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Mobius on May 04, 2008, 05:38:10 am
If you break up the subheadings too much, not only does the site become a pain to navigate but you seperate everyone up into their particular groups, no discussion really goes on and you actually end up losing members, because there's no room to get away from the subject at hand. I prefer more generic headings because it means there's always something of interest to someone in there.

You're exaggerating here. The SCP subforum has 2 child boards that don't get people confused. Why wouldn't Missions and Campaigns have a childboard for releases, only?!?
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 04, 2008, 07:57:31 am
The SCP subforum has 2 child boards that don't get people confused. Why wouldn't Missions and Campaigns have a childboard for releases, only?!?[/i][/color]
There is no need for such. Releases often have the word "Release" on the thread title. Easy to find. And let's not forget about the Highlights board. A board for releases would be almost exactly the same as Highlights, actually.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Polpolion on June 09, 2008, 07:53:40 pm
:bump:

I'm really interested in knowing how much the admins are entertaining the idea of having a coding board. From what it seems, everyone just sort of simultaneously forgot about it.
Title: Re: Computer forum.
Post by: Polpolion on June 12, 2008, 08:08:23 am
Yay! Thank you!  :D