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Title: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Kosh on May 06, 2008, 08:01:42 pm
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=79533


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Land 'O Lakes, Florida -- The stories in the news about inappropriate relationships between teachers and students have been overwhelming.  There was even a substitute teacher in New Port Richey who got in trouble after investigators say she had a relationship with an underage student.

Well, another Pasco County substitute teacher's job is on the line, but this time it's because of a magic trick.

The charge from the school district — Wizardry!


What next? Will they next start firing teachers for saying the earth revolves around the sun? :wtf:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: DeepSpace9er on May 06, 2008, 08:05:44 pm
No that would be saying that the universe was made in 7 days. Oh oops too late...
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 06, 2008, 08:12:49 pm
What, was the school ****ing Catholic or something?
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Post by: blackhole on May 06, 2008, 08:14:21 pm
Can I get a visa to canada? A permanent one?
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 06, 2008, 08:17:31 pm
I'll see what i can do :drevil:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Mars on May 06, 2008, 09:09:11 pm
Nice thing is if the worst thing on your premanent record is "wizardry" then you're probably okay.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Nuke on May 06, 2008, 09:25:49 pm
who do these bible thumping super intendants think they are?
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 06, 2008, 09:29:52 pm
Probably "good Christians"
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 07, 2008, 02:37:51 am
I don't blame the Bible as much as I blame the people who are so willing to be completely intolerant of someone else without even thinking of how fast they're jumping to conclusions. It's irresponsible and ill-fitting for someone with so much responsibility.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Falcon on May 07, 2008, 03:11:10 am
Only permanent teachers have the right to be wizards.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: karajorma on May 07, 2008, 03:37:42 am
Maybe he should apply to Hogwarts. :p
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Post by: Wobble73 on May 07, 2008, 05:09:32 am
At least he's not threatened with beheading for naming a teddy Mohammed. He should think himself lucky!
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Polpolion on May 07, 2008, 11:19:09 am
What, was the school ****ing Catholic or something?

I went to a catholic school for eight years and not once has anything along those lines ever happened.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: jdjtcagle on May 07, 2008, 11:33:15 am
There has to be personal tension somewhere... This just doesn't make sense.  What exactly was he teaching?  Why was a magic trick relevant? Was the magic trick to make a point that rubbed someone the wrong way?  Was that person's parents paying a-lot of money/pull?

Many questions come into mind seeing how sad this whole thing appears.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Galemp on May 07, 2008, 12:20:10 pm
I want someone to quote the statute that firstly defines wizardry, and secondly criminalizes it.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 07, 2008, 01:22:42 pm
Can I get a visa to canada? A permanent one?
You're better off coming to NS. Calgary is the poor man's village (cause no one can pay for housing), from what I hear.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 07, 2008, 01:39:42 pm
Can I get a visa to canada? A permanent one?
You're better off coming to NS. Calgary is the poor man's village (cause no one can pay for housing), from what I hear.
Bah. Come live at my place. 156ft2 is more than enough to support two people and it would be nice to have someone to pay half the rent.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 07, 2008, 02:09:26 pm
1562. Wow. You have a small apartment.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 05:27:37 pm
You're better off coming to NS. Calgary is the poor man's village (cause no one can pay for housing), from what I hear.
True enough.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Nuke on May 07, 2008, 05:30:22 pm
my bathroom is bigger than that
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 05:31:05 pm
:wtf:
Kickass rig...a bathroom bigger then my house...

Are you rich or something???
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Ghostavo on May 07, 2008, 05:33:20 pm
No, he just pees in the woods...
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 05:52:34 pm
:lol:
nice
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Excalibur on May 07, 2008, 05:55:11 pm
See this writing on the white board? Now you see it, now you don't. It disappeared. Oops, now my job has disappeared as well.

No wonder there's a teacher shortage... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 05:57:16 pm
"Well well well...look kids, a girl answered a math question. You know what that means..."

"she's a witch!!!"
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 07, 2008, 06:09:23 pm
1562. Wow. You have a small apartment.

Damn Flatties.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 07, 2008, 06:53:00 pm
:wtf:
Kickass rig...a bathroom bigger then my house...

Are you rich or something???
No, in Alaska they friggin give you money. And in NS you could get the same house for 1/5 the price. My friend moved to Toronto, his family had a five bathroom etc mansion, and they got a 2 bedroom apartment.

No, he just pees in the woods...
No, he just lives in Alaska. And that isn't a large room, 12.5*12.5ft IIRC. My bathroom is like 14*5 IIRC, and there are two of them. Just large enough to hold a tub, toilet, and counter, plus a laundry basket.

EDIT: Wait, we're comparing Lobo's house to bathrooms. :lol:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Ford Prefect on May 07, 2008, 06:58:07 pm
Clearly these townsfolk fear that he will bring ill tidings from the eastern lands, as if this will prevent the orcish hordes from descending upon their homes.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 07, 2008, 07:00:56 pm
 :wtf: wat. Oh, you're actually on-topic. Pfaw. n00b.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Kosh on May 07, 2008, 07:20:13 pm
There has to be personal tension somewhere... This just doesn't make sense.  What exactly was he teaching?  Why was a magic trick relevant? Was the magic trick to make a point that rubbed someone the wrong way?  Was that person's parents paying a-lot of money/pull?

Many questions come into mind seeing how sad this whole thing appears.


How could there be personal tension? He was a substitute......
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Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears.
But after performing it in front of a classroom at Rushe Middle School in Land 'O Lakes, Piculas said his job did a disappearing act of its own.

"I get a call the middle of the day from the supervisor of substitute teachers.  He says, 'Jim, we have a huge issue.  You can't take any more assignments.  You need to come in right away,'" he said.

When Piculas went in, he learned his little magic trick cast a spell that went much farther than he'd hoped.

"I said, 'Well Pat, can you explain this to me?'  'You've been accused of wizardry,' [he said]. Wizardry?" he asked.


Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: zonination on May 07, 2008, 08:04:54 pm
Read the rest of the article.

He was also getting formal complaints for allowing students access on restricted computers, as well as not following lesson plans.

I suspect wizardry was just one of the crazy on-the-side accusations.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 09:00:19 pm
So they think it's an excuse to accuse him of wizardry because he did other stuff as well?
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Polpolion on May 07, 2008, 09:06:29 pm
Wizardry, in this situation, is just a fancy way of saying pointlessly wasting class time. Of which it seems the teacher made a habit, according to Zonination.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: jdjtcagle on May 07, 2008, 09:59:51 pm
There has to be personal tension somewhere... This just doesn't make sense.  What exactly was he teaching?  Why was a magic trick relevant? Was the magic trick to make a point that rubbed someone the wrong way?  Was that person's parents paying a-lot of money/pull?

Many questions come into mind seeing how sad this whole thing appears.


How could there be personal tension? He was a substitute......
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Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears.
But after performing it in front of a classroom at Rushe Middle School in Land 'O Lakes, Piculas said his job did a disappearing act of its own.

"I get a call the middle of the day from the supervisor of substitute teachers.  He says, 'Jim, we have a huge issue.  You can't take any more assignments.  You need to come in right away,'" he said.

When Piculas went in, he learned his little magic trick cast a spell that went much farther than he'd hoped.

"I said, 'Well Pat, can you explain this to me?'  'You've been accused of wizardry,' [he said]. Wizardry?" he asked.


Like I said, it doesn't make sense... I'm thinking more along the lines of thesizzler on this one.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Ford Prefect on May 07, 2008, 10:34:00 pm
Wizardry, in this situation, is just a fancy way of saying pointlessly wasting class time.
Yes, let's be honest-- who among us hasn't fallen victim to the woeful ambiguity of this temptingly descriptive terminology? Many were the times in high school that I heard accusations of wizardry and, in a panic, hurriedly prepared my torch, pitchfork, and magical runes of protection, only to discover that a student had been wasting time on the internets while under the supervision of a substitute. I was initially indignant over such a potentially dangerous misunderstanding, but upon reflection, I couldn't help but chuckle to myself at the perfect structure of this dying metaphor.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 10:35:27 pm
I'm laughing too
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: CP5670 on May 07, 2008, 11:19:18 pm
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Wizardry, in this situation, is just a fancy way of saying pointlessly wasting class time. Of which it seems the teacher made a habit, according to Zonination.

I used to have a recurring sub teacher for several years through elementary and middle school who was like this. He was an old man who used to bring a boom box to class and have everyone dance to the music, and did various other strange things. Everyone loved it when he showed up since we knew there would be no work that day. :D
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 07, 2008, 11:29:12 pm
Same with an African sub that always comes to my school now and then and tells hilarious stories about his life in south Africa :D

He accused this guy in our class of smelling like green Mexican (whatever that is. I think it's a cigarrette). :lol:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Kosh on May 08, 2008, 12:09:45 am
Read the rest of the article.

He was also getting formal complaints for allowing students access on restricted computers, as well as not following lesson plans.

I suspect wizardry was just one of the crazy on-the-side accusations.

Then why not just charge him with that stuff and be done with it? Why is their main charge "wizardry"?

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Wizardry, in this situation, is just a fancy way of saying pointlessly wasting class time.

So a 30 second magic trick got him into trouble but wasting time using other methods did not?
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Mars on May 08, 2008, 01:36:04 am
Since when did substitute teachers stick to lesson plans?
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Post by: S-99 on May 08, 2008, 01:58:56 am
3 words

IDIOTS IN COMMAND!!!!!!

It sucks when you're the victim of one :no:
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Slasher on May 08, 2008, 04:57:00 am
I think Florida secured a Constitutional amendment that entitles them to be retarded, so let's just leave them alone.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: S-99 on May 08, 2008, 06:35:00 am
That means we shouldn't leave them alone.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 08, 2008, 01:02:22 pm
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Wizardry, in this situation, is just a fancy way of saying pointlessly wasting class time. Of which it seems the teacher made a habit, according to Zonination.

I used to have a recurring sub teacher for several years through elementary and middle school who was like this. He was an old man who used to bring a boom box to class and have everyone dance to the music, and did various other strange things. Everyone loved it when he showed up since we knew there would be no work that day. :D
QFT. This guy tells us stories about his life, and he talks about how all the teachers at every other school are imbeciles. The kids will egg him on (come on, tell us about your dog) and he does.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Mika on May 08, 2008, 04:06:16 pm
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Bah. Come live at my place. 156ft2 is more than enough to support two people and it would be nice to have someone to pay half the rent.
   

What are you? Some kind of student, eh? Since when have you turned to Chinese?

Pah, pitäs lopettaa IV oluen vetäminen iltasin työpäivinä. Mennee jutut levottomaks.

Off the record, I have some 650 ft2 = 60 m2 to use. This is sufficient for a single person, and that doesn't count the balcony...

Gotta say something on topic to keep the post legitimate, even though the real purpose was something else.  Think think think

Yeah, I got it: there are ways to incorporate magic tricks to, for example, Physics lectures (whoa whadda surprise, who would'be thought of that of Mika?).  The thing is that they are quite memorable. Think about your trusty beer can, it is possible to set it to a balanced position of 45 degrees from the surface it is sitting on, if one has enjoyed about half of the enjoyable golden content. I recall seeing this trick once in a confrerence, and since then it has been my favourite in parties. It is a quite good demonstration of balancing forces, and, plus the demonstrator can get at least half a can of beer for free!

Mika
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 08, 2008, 05:39:40 pm
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Bah. Come live at my place. 156ft2 is more than enough to support two people and it would be nice to have someone to pay half the rent.
What are you? Some kind of student, eh? Since when have you turned to Chinese?
He's tried his hardest to become Japanese (short of plastic surgery). Calling him Chinese could be taken as a personal affront.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: haloboy100 on May 08, 2008, 05:42:07 pm
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Bah. Come live at my place. 156ft2 is more than enough to support two people and it would be nice to have someone to pay half the rent.
   

What are you? Some kind of student, eh? Since when have you turned to Chinese?
How does that say he's Chinese?
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Dark RevenantX on May 08, 2008, 05:48:34 pm
Yeah, if anything that would be a Japanese home.  Except, in that case, your "house" would be even smaller.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 08, 2008, 05:49:13 pm
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Bah. Come live at my place. 156ft2 is more than enough to support two people and it would be nice to have someone to pay half the rent.
   

What are you? Some kind of student, eh? Since when have you turned to Chinese?
How does that say he's Chinese?
赤い Crunch 嗚呼 Crunch 暗い Crunch

And it's Japanese (though I already PM'd him about it).

Yeah, if anything that would be a Japanese home.  Except, in that case, your "house" would be even smaller.
Hai. Trying to get that Japanese feeling here in the North.
Title: Re: Magic trick gets teacher fired
Post by: Mika on May 09, 2008, 03:53:09 pm
Um, the highest population density I have so far seen was in Beijing. In the University dormitories actually. You could easily have more than five people living in a room of the before mentioned 14.5 m^2 size.

Yeah, I was thinking before posting if I should have written it as:
[Brannigan voice]
What are you? Some kind of student, eh? Since when have you turned to Chinese?
[/Brannigan voice]

Note that this is off-topic.

Mika