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Title: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on May 15, 2008, 02:28:26 am
I was originally going to completely redo my broadsword.  I didn't like my attempt.  I picked up the broadsword over at Solsector that Corsair made and started playing around with it. Poly-reducing, symetry etc....  Theres also a piece of one of the HTL freespace models

It still needs some work, think the top/bottom turrets are too small.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/claymore1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/clyamore2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/claymore3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/claymore4.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: gevatter Lars on May 15, 2008, 04:15:34 am
Wow that looks like a crazy mix of a Broadsword, Raptor and a FS fighter I have forgotten the name of.
Now give the missile pod some swarm missiles ^_^
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Titan on May 15, 2008, 06:52:16 am
Is it a... medusa engine?
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Wobble73 on May 15, 2008, 06:54:59 am
You're right about the turrets, they look like peashooters on that thing! The guns at the rear look a little pathetic too! Something this big needs something more intimidating!
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Mobius on May 15, 2008, 02:01:10 pm
I assume this is not for WCS...

I really like this design, but would you like to consider my suggestion? :nervous:

What about more turrets, at least 4 of them? I'd really like to see a nicely defended bomber close to WWII ones. In addition, I think turrets could have two more gunpoints.

Am I exaggerating with this request? Does the code allow something like that?
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Hades on May 15, 2008, 04:10:37 pm
I assume this is not for WCS...

I really like this design, but would you like to consider my suggestion? :nervous:

What about more turrets, at least 4 of them? I'd really like to see a nicely defended bomber close to WWII ones. In addition, I think turrets could have two more gunpoints.

Am I exaggerating with this request? Does the code allow something like that?

It already has three so one more wouldn't really make a difference.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on May 15, 2008, 05:27:46 pm
I assume this is not for WCS...

I really like this design, but would you like to consider my suggestion? :nervous:

What about more turrets, at least 4 of them? I'd really like to see a nicely defended bomber close to WWII ones. In addition, I think turrets could have two more gunpoints.

Am I exaggerating with this request? Does the code allow something like that?


I was original thinking of having 4, one on each missile section.  But after several restarts on the rear turret, i opted for two (plus the rear gunner).  Actually for the rear gunner I was trying to aim for something like the nose of a B-17, but failed miserably.

Wow that looks like a crazy mix of a Broadsword, Raptor and a FS fighter I have forgotten the name of.
Now give the missile pod some swarm missiles ^_^

Actually they're suppose to be torpedo tubes. Although they might be a bit too small though.

Also engine exhausts need some work.  I think I'll redo them, then again it could be the fact their textured and the hull isn't.  :blah:
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Titan on May 15, 2008, 05:58:05 pm
are those medusa engines?
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on May 15, 2008, 06:21:44 pm
Ya, i think. It's bomber04hp.pof.  I tried several different methods including having just three engines, in a triangle forumation, but it looked very awkward.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Nuke on May 15, 2008, 11:20:35 pm
the turrets need more beef :D

otherwise its pretty good
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on May 16, 2008, 01:16:12 am
Better?  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/claymore5.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Nuke on May 16, 2008, 02:17:07 am
a little :D
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: gevatter Lars on May 16, 2008, 10:22:08 am
Can you try to seperate the missile boxes so that each is realy a box and not connected with the other?
Might look interesting.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: starlord on May 17, 2008, 09:26:47 am
Hey scooby, I've been thinking about one thing: Why not try to model WCmovie or WCacademy series ships? Might be used in the future! :nod:
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Mobius on May 17, 2008, 09:43:14 am
I was original thinking of having 4, one on each missile section.  But after several restarts on the rear turret, i opted for two (plus the rear gunner).  Actually for the rear gunner I was trying to aim for something like the nose of a B-17, but failed miserably.

At least make them bigger...
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: gevatter Lars on May 17, 2008, 10:26:37 am
I hate the WCmovie ships well mostly.
The Dralthi looks at least somewhat like a Dralthi and the Claws hangarbay looks also pretty cool. For the rest....I don't like it.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: starlord on May 17, 2008, 11:07:43 am
I didn't see much: I didn't recognise anything, including the big "tube" ship at the end.

On the other hand, academy... perhaps worth a shot.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: gevatter Lars on May 17, 2008, 11:46:34 am
http://www.wcnews.com/shots/movie/full/dralthi.jpg (http://www.wcnews.com/shots/movie/full/dralthi.jpg)
This is the movie Dralthi

As for not seeing anything familiar...yes there isn't anything familiar when it comes to the ship designs.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Mobius on May 18, 2008, 03:11:13 am
Meh, I want it in regular FS campaigns too...
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on May 19, 2008, 01:43:53 pm
I hate the WCmovie ships well mostly.
The Dralthi looks at least somewhat like a Dralthi and the Claws hangarbay looks also pretty cool. For the rest....I don't like it.

     Are you kidding me? That human fighter was a thing of sheer beauty, the likes of which I've not seen since a homemade airplane of my childhood which used a tomato can as a fuselage.


       (that was sarcasm if you missed it - WCMovie has some of _the_ ugliest fighters I've seen ANYWHERE in sci-fi)
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Mars on May 19, 2008, 03:25:07 pm
What's the scale on that compared to say an Ursa?
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: gevatter Lars on May 20, 2008, 05:20:12 am
I hate the WCmovie ships well mostly.
The Dralthi looks at least somewhat like a Dralthi and the Claws hangarbay looks also pretty cool. For the rest....I don't like it.

     Are you kidding me? That human fighter was a thing of sheer beauty, the likes of which I've not seen since a homemade airplane of my childhood which used a tomato can as a fuselage.


       (that was sarcasm if you missed it - WCMovie has some of _the_ ugliest fighters I've seen ANYWHERE in sci-fi)

Till the part with the tomato I realy thought "WHAT?" ^_^

Oh and if you didn't know...this image was the first draft for the WC movie Rapier.

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Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on May 20, 2008, 09:38:48 am
Meh, I want it in regular FS campaigns too...
Yeah, it looks like it would have a Sath for lunch and a Demon for dessert :yes:
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Commander Zane on May 20, 2008, 10:26:36 am
I hate the WCmovie ships well mostly.
The Dralthi looks at least somewhat like a Dralthi and the Claws hangarbay looks also pretty cool. For the rest....I don't like it.

     Are you kidding me? That human fighter was a thing of sheer beauty, the likes of which I've not seen since a homemade airplane of my childhood which used a tomato can as a fuselage.


       (that was sarcasm if you missed it - WCMovie has some of _the_ ugliest fighters I've seen ANYWHERE in sci-fi)

Till the part with the tomato I realy thought "WHAT?" ^_^

Oh and if you didn't know...this image was the first draft for the WC movie Rapier.
Yeah...the REAL F-44 Rapier from Wing Commander I, they SHOULD HAVE used that instead of the fudge piece of junk...
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: starlord on May 20, 2008, 11:13:55 am
Actually, continuity geeks feel it's rather the C-117 rapier (a sort of predeccessor, as the Wc1 ship is a rapier 2). Same thing, the dralthi is a KF 100, ancestor to the D mark 1. :doubt:
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Mobius on May 20, 2008, 01:19:08 pm
Meh, I want it in regular FS campaigns too...
Yeah, it looks like it would have a Sath for lunch and a Demon for dessert :yes:

WCS or not I'm going to use it :D
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Titan on May 20, 2008, 02:08:03 pm
Scoob, see that thing for the rapier. do that next if you can.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: WMCoolmon on May 25, 2008, 03:40:04 am
Just saw this thread.

Hell yes. :D
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 12, 2008, 02:00:45 am
Now in fruity colors  :D   (it's uvmapped)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/Shodan_AI/claymore6.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: WMCoolmon on July 12, 2008, 05:22:38 am
I feel somehow like I am to blame for this...
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 13, 2008, 07:59:12 am
It looks delicious.

Was it only me, or did anyone else see "Big Bertha" and think of that artillery piece from Total Annihilation?
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: varsaigen on July 13, 2008, 10:09:54 am
Wow that looks like a crazy mix of a Broadsword, Raptor and a FS fighter I have forgotten the name of.
Now give the missile pod some swarm missiles ^_^

Medusa bomber. :P THat's what your forgetting. XD
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: nvsblmnc on July 14, 2008, 01:45:54 am
Not sure if it's the angle, but it looks like there's something funny going on with the nose?

It's not on the unmapped version on page 1.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 14, 2008, 03:06:24 am
Opps, fixed that. It was just a UV and texturing issue.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: varsaigen on July 14, 2008, 09:20:24 am
nothing's wrong with the nose. It is angled in areas and the camera angle can do that. :p
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 14, 2008, 02:05:37 pm
Actually it looks like it has two buck teeth, it's not missing area, it just got painted black.
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: varsaigen on July 14, 2008, 04:09:52 pm
ah, that. Yeah, you are right about that.  that kinda screws it up some. :/
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Janos on July 16, 2008, 10:14:02 am
It looks delicious.

Was it only me, or did anyone else see "Big Bertha" and think of that artillery piece from Total Annihilation?

I'd guess it was a reference to the real Big Bertha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bertha_%28howitzer%29)

Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: varsaigen on July 16, 2008, 01:30:28 pm
hell, that would look painful on the ship! XD
Title: Re: Big Bertha.....
Post by: Scooby_Doo on July 16, 2008, 06:45:56 pm
It looks delicious.

Was it only me, or did anyone else see "Big Bertha" and think of that artillery piece from Total Annihilation?

I'd guess it was a reference to the real Big Bertha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bertha_%28howitzer%29)



Yup, I was thinking of the real thing.  Actually i've named it Claymore, as big bertha is a nickname.