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Title: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 24, 2008, 06:47:20 am: Damn i am so a such noob or is this mission so hard???
The mission i must scan the capital ship near the EA Raider base.

Scan is not the problem but how i can reach the extraction point. ??
After giving them the wrong Authorisation Code there are hostile and attack me. I shot down many of them (Bonus Objective) but in the end they will kill me. I died now 4 times in the row and iam very frustrated. I don't like die the 5. time to skip. i will win this mission.

Why in da hell any missons so easy and other too hard that a average player go to eat the Keyboard and throw the Mouse to the wall.

This game is soo great but in such moments i hate it.

Greetings Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Vidmaster on May 24, 2008, 07:17:26 am: dont start dogfighting at all

go in, scan base, divert all power to engines, afterburn out :)
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Skullar on May 24, 2008, 07:33:22 am: 4 years at the academy, expensive EA hardware under your responsibility, and you still don't know when to fight and when to run ?
DIDN'T YOU LEARN ANYTHING, SOLDIER ???

This is not Wing Commander where you got 374 kills on the scoreboard, this is REAL LIFE, you understand ?
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: darkmaster on May 24, 2008, 08:35:23 am: I'm sorry, Renegade, but there is no "trick" for this mission. But if you do the followings you 'll have a great chance to win :

1> Scan the base and then divert all power to engine, then run as soon as possible.
2> Order alpha 2 to protect you, this will help a lot (he will die, not you).
3> Don't fly in a straight way, try to spiral.
4> Use asteroids as your shield.

good luck.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: terran_emperor on May 24, 2008, 08:47:19 am: Quote
John Sheridan: Run like Hell and hope they arent fast enough to catch up
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on May 24, 2008, 08:58:06 am: Quote from: Skullar on May 24, 2008, 07:33:22 am
4 years at the academy, expensive EA hardware under your responsibility, and you still don't know when to fight and when to run ? DIDN'T YOU LEARN ANYTHING, SOLDIER ???

:lol: Fabulous.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: CrazyJoe on May 25, 2008, 10:57:20 pm: Same here. I need some help. I am stuck on the mission where you have to keep Altair station from being destroyed and the jump gate also. I do not know what I am doing wrong. Do I have to take out the G.O.D Sat first or is there something else I have to do?
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 26, 2008, 01:31:41 am: Hello Crazy joe,
look@ here :http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53805.0.html (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53805.0.html)

Greetz Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on May 26, 2008, 03:37:34 am: Quote from: Renegade on May 26, 2008, 01:31:41 am
Hello Crazy joe,
look@ here :http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53805.0.html (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53805.0.html)

This mission can be completed without cheating. In situations where you can't be in two places at once, you be in one place and make sure your wingmen are in the other. Also make sure you pick a ship and weapons that are appropriate to the mission.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 26, 2008, 05:24:22 am: Sorry .. but in my eyes is this no cheating.
I use the opportunity to disable the GOD Satellite before i fly to the PSI-Cops (trigger).

If i use hacks to modify the game this is cheating. But not this.

Other Question. One mission earlier comes 4 Battleships from the Raiders to destroy altair station. exist any possibility to prevent them to destroy Station ? or is this a script. In Fact in next mission Altair Station is already alive.

Sorry again for my bad English, but i hope you will understood what i write.

Greetings Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on May 26, 2008, 05:50:57 am: Quote from: Renegade on May 26, 2008, 05:24:22 am
Sorry .. but in my eyes is this no cheating.
I use the opportunity to disable the GOD Satellite before i fly to the PSI-Cops (trigger).

Ok let me be clear on this. I wrote this mission. I made a decision to allow you to cheat. But it is cheating.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Steel Prophet on May 26, 2008, 06:22:31 am: Quote from: Renegade on May 26, 2008, 05:24:22 am
Sorry .. but in my eyes is this no cheating.
I use the opportunity to disable the GOD Satellite before i fly to the PSI-Cops (trigger).

If i use hacks to modify the game this is cheating. But not this.

Other Question. One mission earlier comes 4 Battleships from the Raiders to destroy altair station. exist any possibility to prevent them to destroy Station ? or is this a script. In Fact in next mission Altair Station is already alive.

Sorry again for my bad English, but i hope you will understood what i write.

Greetings Peter

It's a nightmare
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: CrazyJoe on May 26, 2008, 05:45:26 pm: Ok thanks. Now I am stuck on the same mission that the guy who made this post, was talking about. How the heck do I scan something? That is what I can not figure out. Is there a key that I have to press or is the scan automatic when I get close enough to the base and ship? Also which way do I have to go after I do the scan? From what I understand is I have to do the scan and then take off like a bat out of hell.

Oh and BTW I just love this mod. I am a big fan of B5. I have watched every episode and movie. The Same for Star Trek. and Space above and beyond. So when I see a space combat/flight sim game. I have to try it out.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on May 26, 2008, 05:48:41 pm: To scan something you first target it. If you need to scan a subsystem then you target the subsystem. Next you have to fly close to the object keeping it centered. The target info box in the lower left corner will show scanning and then scanned.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 27, 2008, 01:32:13 am: i am hanging on same mission. I scanned the Battlawagon and then i flay away - but nothing happens. is there more to scan ?

Greets Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on May 27, 2008, 01:52:57 am: Been awhile since I played RW but I believe you have to scan several subsystems.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 02:12:54 am: Aye. I think they were all on the objective list. As a general rule: if the raiders don't turn hostile on your arse, you haven't remembered to scan all the subsystems.

Hmm. Battlewagon? Was there a ship as well? For me it has also been a while since I've played any TBP. But still. Your primary objective is to scan the subsystems of the asteroid base.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 27, 2008, 02:18:54 am: yeah i scanned the subsystems as well.

In the CRT lower left i see then :Scanned 100%
but if i fly away to avoid patrols.. nothing will be happen. I fly a half hour with Afterburner but i don't find a extraction point.
Is there more to scan as the one Battleship ??? Raider Base is not possible to scan.

Greets Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 27, 2008, 02:26:33 am: Quote from: Renegade on May 27, 2008, 02:18:54 am
Raider Base is not possible to scan.
The Raider base can and must be scanned. Or more precisely, its subsystems must be scanned. Use S to cycle through the subsystems. Scan all the ones you are ordered to scan.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Solitaire on May 27, 2008, 05:51:26 pm: You have four things to scan in total:

Scan the Archon (battlewagon) first. Just target it and get close enough for the scan lines to do their magic :) Don't bother with its subsystems.

Now go back to the original mission target - the asteroid base. Target it by selecting it with Target Escort (default "e"). I hope you remember what key you mapped to Target Next Subsystem... Keep hitting it until you see the name of the subsystem in the target box. You need to select one of the three mission targets (Weapons, Sensors, Comm IIRC), fly to it (your HUD's targetting will highlight the selected subsystem of the target ship if its in visual range) and try to get close and get it centred to bring up the scanlines. This can be tricky on large ships due to things sticking out of them, and this here Asteroid Base is no exception. Oh, and...

Spoiler:
Once you've scanned the first target subsystem get your skates on and scan the other two ASAP - 'cuz merry hell is about to break loose...

You'll know if you've scanned all the right targets because you'll get an update and your Escort List will switch to show a position marker instead of the base. NOW run for your life (toward the marker preferably!) - divert all power to engines, max the throttle and abuse your burners. Once you reach the marker you'll get a repeating message, hold tight and wait for your ride home.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on May 31, 2008, 02:11:15 pm: Now i think The Game is over for me. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
I cant scan the systems fast enough. They comes over me like a swarm of Hornets and kill me before i am done with scanning.
The problem: I don't find the subsystems of the d a m n Raider Base.
And i died now the 5 time and cant skip this mission.

G A ME O V E R ! ! ! ! !

Was nice to play, but now i am very frustrated.

In Valens name.....
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 31, 2008, 02:17:05 pm: No.

Scan the big ship.

Scan the subsystems of the base. Use the S button to cycle through them, when you have the base selected as a target. Scan them like you scanned the ship.

Once done scanning, fly the hell away from the base.

If you fail the mission 5 times in a row, you CAN skip it. Of course, if you first fail it four times and then quit the game, it won't help if you fail it again on some other occasion. It must be five times in a row.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: darkmaster on May 31, 2008, 03:29:34 pm: Come on, guy. If you can't finish raider war you will never win any other campaigns in TBP.
Send me a PM if you really want a "trick" :D
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Vidmaster on June 01, 2008, 04:05:13 am: now darkmaster starts with his trick again :lol:
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on June 01, 2008, 04:09:37 am: Actually I'd say this is the one mission in all the campaign you can skip without losing any of the plot. Though I'm surprised anyone would have to. It's not that difficult. The guy is going to really struggle when he gets to Showdown at the Pass and Loose Ends.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on June 01, 2008, 07:45:44 am: Hi guys...
thanks for the warm words ;)

In the past i had never such problems with games like wing commander 1-4, Privateer, and other. but TPB has his own laws i think :eek2:

Now i am really pissed that i am hanging in this mission. But i think i will finish this Mission.

The main problem in this mission for me is to find the right places on this damn...base to scan..

see ya.....
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on June 01, 2008, 08:06:30 am: Quote from: Renegade on June 01, 2008, 07:45:44 am
The main problem in this mission for me is to find the right places on this damn...base to scan..

The directives tell you which subsystems to scan. That's why they exist.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Renegade on July 09, 2008, 07:29:59 am: So the d a m n Raiders are Toast - all Bases Destroyed ;)

Greetings Peter
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Vidmaster on July 09, 2008, 07:43:15 am: I guess this means you have beaten the mission and the campaign? :lol: Good job. Now try EarthMinbari War Demo or download DarkChildren and Drums of War :mad2: . And Mag's EarthBrakiriWar will be a challenge too, when it comes out (unless he surprises us all)

Man, I am bad.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: IPAndrews on July 09, 2008, 11:33:53 am: Congrats. I didn't expect you to make it through. Well done for persevering.
Title: Re: Help needed in Raider Wars Mission
Post by: Daeron on July 09, 2008, 12:08:37 pm: I had trouble with that mission the first few times as well, because I went too much in the role of hide and seek, heheh. Wasting time skimming asteroids and "dodging" patrols is a sure way of ending up being shred to pieces in a crossfire.