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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Titan on June 16, 2008, 06:58:12 am
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sorry everbody, but, here goes:
My dad was getting our computer ready to be wiped, and he sorta found out about my downloading habits for FS. He got really pissed, and banned me from the computer until further notice (i'm writing this- as usual- from a school comp) and said once i was allowed back on, there were getting a parental block and ****...
i know this is probably good news for some, whatever news for the rest, but i thought i'd let you know...
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Yeesh. Well, you follow their rules. Come back in a few years.
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and said once i was allowed back on, there were getting a parental block and ****...
:lol: Yeah, well, FS isn't rated Mature for nothing.
(The statement above is not true. It was meant to be a comical interlude but it obviously failed miserably. According to Wikipedia, FreeSpace and subsequently FreeSpace 2 have been rated as follows:
ESRB: Everyone (6+)
USK: 12+
ELSPA: 3+
OFLC: G8+
End transmission)
This is why it is occasionally good to have a spare copy of FS on a DVD/stick/external HDD.
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:lol: Yeah, well, FS isn't rated Mature for nothing.
But it's not. It's rated Everyone.
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:lol: Yeah, well, FS isn't rated Mature for nothing.
But it's not. It's rated Everyone.
So's your mum.
Bam!
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Oh well...
Farewell dude.
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Sorry man, be patient though. :)
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Would he rather you be downloading porn? :wtf:
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Would he rather you be downloading porn? :wtf:
:lol:
until further notice
*cough* We live in the 21st century *cough* Can't without 'em comps.
Come back soon!
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Take your time. I think HLP will last for as long as the Vasudan Empire.
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So's your mum.
Bam!
CURSE YOU
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probably just for a week, but the effing parental controls (if they do get one- my dad is very impulsive, and my mom just sorta follows him... he usually backs off) will make it so i can't do anything once i get my comp back...
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Build a bunker/shelter around the computer while your parents are at work. Bring food and water for 5-10 years. Don't forget to make holes for air to go in. Also, don't forget a toilet and a hole through the window for everything to go out. Make sure you got backup power linked to your neighbours, just in case. Then lock yourself down and live there. No school, no parents, no sleep, no bath, no brushing your teeth, no friends, no... Um, disregard this message.
Seriously. My parents were never this strict.
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If they think FS2 is inappropriate, tell them to try playing it or at least watch you play it. They'll get bored since there's really nothing inappropriate, unless they think blasting aliens is oh-so-sinful. Heck--pull out the scripts for everything and let them look for themselves. Other than that, gameplay really doesn't change... it's a space drama, not a space porno. And if he was thinking you were getting viruses, I would challenge him to do a virus & trojan scan. It may be a bit data downloaded, but it's not illegal, especially the larger portions (fan-made campaigns, media vps, advanced media vps, recompiled audio and video).
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sorry everbody, but, here goes:
My dad was getting our computer ready to be wiped, and he sorta found out about my downloading habits for FS. He got really pissed, and banned me from the computer until further notice (i'm writing this- as usual- from a school comp) and said once i was allowed back on, there were getting a parental block and ****...
i know this is probably good news for some, whatever news for the rest, but i thought i'd let you know...
Maybe like, don't spend your time downloading everything under the sun but instead you can spend time on your home computer Fredding for that Teeth of the Tiger Campaign or whatever it is you're working on, then at school you can upload it. You might actually get more work done without the forums to waste time on all day long. :D
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How would he get it to his school comp? flash drive? or do his parents think they carry viruses? :rolleyes:
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The USB itself can have viruses and that way carry it/spread it.
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Yes, if titan was downloading porn, sure. :doubt:
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I hate parents like yours. Makes me cringe.
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please inform me of these parental blocks once in place. and this will get you around such evil. trust me i know. www.download.com/Torpark/3000-2356_4-10586817.html (http://www.download.com/Torpark/3000-2356_4-10586817.html) slow as hell but it works.
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Find a proxy.
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that is a proxy. it just can't be blocked.
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please inform me of these parental blocks once in place. and this will get you around such evil. trust me i know. www.download.com/Torpark/3000-2356_4-10586817.html (http://www.download.com/Torpark/3000-2356_4-10586817.html) slow as hell but it works.
Torpark isn't "around" anymore. The more up to date (and user friendly) version is XeroBank. It absorbed Torpark. Also, that trick will only work if the parental controls block by DNS lookup. If it uses any other sort of URL filtering, i.e.: by strings, it might not work. Plus, the parental controls may also look for keywords in the webpage and block by that. That list will be user programmable and will probably be modified by your parents during setup.
Depending on your level of experience, you might want to try registry editing. Cut the registry keys and it should cripple whatever your parents installed. Granted, this carries a great deal of risk, like killing your Windows install. But if you're desperate, it might be worth a shot. The only hitch is that you have to be able to actually find the keys...
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Have you tried explaining to them that the stuff you are working on now could give you a big advantage in finding a careerer at some point. Assuming you are thinking of going into modeling or coding or some other area that an open source project such as this exposes you too.
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... even for the FS community, this has to be a first.
I SAW TITAN SPEAKIN' WITH THE DEVIL!
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To be honest, your best bet is to tow the line for now. I suspect the reason he is annoyed is not because of what you are doing, but the fact that he didn't know about it, and being a parent, that is automatically 'suspicious'.
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To be honest, your best bet is to tow the line for now. I suspect the reason he is annoyed is not because of what you are doing, but the fact that he didn't know about it, and being a parent, that is automatically 'suspicious'.
Maybe it went something like . . .
Dad: "What are all these downloads? 4 GB?"
Titan: "Oh yeah, I just downloaded The Babylon Project!"
Dad: "What's that?"
Titan: "This game some people made"
Dad: "You're downloading games illegally?"
Titan: "No, it's open source! It's a free game"
Dad: " Free game? I doubt it. I won't have you downloading illegal games in this house, you won't be able to visit there anymore."
Titan: "But dad, it's a free game, open source!"
Dad: "There's no such thing as a free game. You're banned from the site, that's final."
(No Offense to Titan Sr. If he reads this :D )
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LOL You never know, it might have been ;)
I suppose the thing is, for quite a lot of us, it's been a while since we were Titans age. I'm going to be 3 times his age this year, for example.
I'll admit, it seems a bit over the top to me, but then, I also have to admit that it isn't my choice to make. His Dad probably sees it as protecting his son from the evils of the Internet, and, of course, our own corrupting influence, or, as you say, thinks that he's downloading warez or the like.
Basically, trying to go around a ban will land you in more trouble if you get caught, whereas towing the line for a few weeks and then bringing up the issue as a discussion, rather than an evasion might actually earn a bit more kudos with him.
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Or he could just turn the tables and restrict his parent's access to websites.
Wonder how keen his father will be on the idea when his porn is blocked.
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My parents were NEVER like this, nor are the parents of any of my friends. They accept that their kids are more computer-literate (for the most part)
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@Flipside
Are you sure your not a dad? :p
Eather that, or you sir, have an open mind :D
I can understand parenting, raised three, and now have a grandson! That little guy can make me laugh :lol:
Back on topic.
Titan, please listen to Flip. He knows what he`s talkin about. ;)
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Personally I just had a huge fight with my parents because I suggested facing fans so they point out of windows rather than in... and apparently this suggestion was disrespectful. :confused: So I may be biased, especially right now.
I say Titan is in a very precarious situation, and that whatever he does, he should take measures to either ensure his father cannot find out he's involved in HLP, or he should play entirely by the rules.
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Personally I just had a huge fight with my parents because I suggested facing fans so they point out of windows rather than in... and apparently this suggestion was disrespectful. :confused: So I may be biased, especially right now.
If it's cooler outside than inside you should probably have some facing in and some facing out (in accordance to the wind direction) to help facilitate the moment of cool air through the house. Or so my mom's theory goes.
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It was 80F inside and 80F outside, so it's sort of a moot point to have fans at all...
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So why can't you come on here at the library or at school anymore, Titan? Don't go blatantly disobeying them by deleting the parental controls (I'm sure you could if you tried), but checking in on here every once in a while from school or a library can't hurt.
And if you're going to debate this with your parents in a real, valid, thoughtful discussion, I must say this: learn about logical fallacies. Don't point them out to your parents blatantly like "oMg! That= IDIOT REASONING!!", and perhaps not at all, but just understand where they are using those fallacies, and eventually, you will be able to use that to your advantage, either directly or indirectly.
The only way you can win a discussion as such is to get your parents to take you seriously. You've already betrayed their trust a little bit by downloading all this FS garbage, and given your age, this will be extremely difficult. From past experiences, these types of parents are the most difficult to reason with. Above all: Don't lose your temper. Don't whine. Don't beg. Don't pester. Do think. Do be intelligent. Do be patient. Do be persistent.
If you don't win the discussion within a few minutes after its start, give it up gracefully and come back later with either different or improved points. Continue this process for a while and you will both have increased your parent's trust in you, you will seem more intelligent to them, more respectable, and above all more reasonable. If you don't get what you want through these said intelligent methods, at the very least in other areas of conflict with your parents you'll have a tiny leg up.
Also, try to pander to their conservative side at first. Trying to liberalize them blatantly early on will only piss them off. It will be difficult, but once you have their trust you can gradually start either pointing out errors in their beliefs in parental involvement, or gradually make them more liberal.
And here's the tricky thing: You could have the most perfect argument ever, your parents could agree with you, but out of spite, they don't let you do it. That's why you need to get on your parents good side about things. Do your chores and then some before talking to them.
All in all, you'll be one of the luckiest kids ever if you manage to persuade parents like yours to share your viewpoints.
EDIT:
BTW, the more your parents shout at you and beat you, the more you've outdone their ability to parent.
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In situations like this is just where i get better at bypassing stuff without walking on eggshells. You can do what you want of course titan. Might as well abide by the parents. In my mind it doesn't matter if i bypass them or abide by them. In this case abide by them for sure. And do all of your computing elsewhere in the meantime obviously. See if you can get downloads going elsewhere also. Download resumer that runs on most computers installed on mobile storage of sufficient size :yes:
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To relate myself, being Titan's age,
I'm at a pretty much hate relationship with my parents, so I wouldn't know much about how to handle this. My dad got in a fistfight with me a few weeks ago, think he cracked one of my ribs, and he'd probably end up doing it again if I argued with him. (He's stereotypical Italian, go figure)
As for Titan's situation, I'm even less experienced in that. I was exposed to the evil, evil part of the internet way way back when I was younger (grade 3-ish) while searching for ROMs, so since my parents know that I already know pretty much everything about the birds and the bees, they pretty much never really care what I do on the computer. Then again, I have three 7-year-old triplet siblings to distract them, which explains why my parents never see what I do on the computer.
Anyway, given your position, if it were me I would argue my point to the bloody end, putting in effort the way thesizzler posted. Then if I failed I'd resort too bypassing the parental control program, since if I still had my parents they'd never know anyway :rolleyes:
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*sigh*
I've seen this kind of thing far too much. You know...and why should a kid/teenager/whatever have to argue with their parents so that their parents will come to a more reasonable and logical outcome instead of a kneejerk reaction based on no knowledge or understanding? Unless we're missing something here.
I guess I have a beef with this kind of thing. Drives me around the bend.
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But how many teenagers see their parents as ignorant and unwilling to change, and just end up exactly like their parents?
It's something to always watch out for in ourselves I guess.
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But how many teenagers see their parents as ignorant and unwilling to change, and just end up exactly like their parents?
It's something to always watch out for in ourselves I guess.
That's a good point, actually. :nod:
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And here's the tricky thing: You could have the most perfect argument ever, your parents could agree with you, but out of spite, they don't let you do it. That's why you need to get on your parents good side about things. Do your chores and then some before talking to them.
If I win (which happens most of the time, logic FTW) my parents just tell me to shut up and go away.
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You know, I don't think it had anything to do with HLP on second thought. Remember titans dad posted once? maybe he was downloading porn. In which case, he is indeed a dumbass.
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You know, I don't think it had anything to do with HLP on second thought. Remember titans dad posted once? maybe he was downloading porn. In which case, he is indeed a dumbass.
He posted here before? Where?
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some topic about a clip involving a beat up old fenris.. it was a rather good natured post, I remember that much
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Anyone have the topic link?
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You know, I don't think it had anything to do with HLP on second thought. Remember titans dad posted once? maybe he was downloading porn. In which case, he is indeed a dumbass.
Maybe he was testing to see if we were decent people?
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some topic about a clip involving a beat up old fenris.. it was a rather good natured post, I remember that much
/me targets the NTC Trinity...
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Negatory, I believe it was a remake of an FS 1 scene or somthing
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I believe this (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,51002.480.html) is the thread of which you speak, and I don't think it was really Titans dad... I think it was Titan.
Titan's Dad: I HATE YOU GUYS. THE BEAUTY OF YOUR WORK HAS KILLED MY G** D*** SON!!!
;)
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Why would titan say that? :wtf:
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so, i don't get it, what was it that his dad got so pissed about?
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Well he's 12, and his father got mad at him for something he did on the internet...
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and it had to do with us?
IIRC there isn't a lot of stuff that should get a 12 year old in trouble on here.
it's bizar thinking that he's about the same age as my brother...
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Oh, this is just a standard Titan case. His dad seems to think that Microsoft = GodTM and open source = Satan/equivalent. Software not made by Microsoft is bound to have viruses and stuff that break computers down and makes them automatically vote for Bush in the next election. Titan could freely play FreeSpace if it was called WinFreeSpace, Microsoft Space Simulator or something.
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Or maybe he played Sol: A History, where in one scene, a pilot says that EA Command "has small d***s". In Titan's case, I believe that would be enough. :p
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Or maybe he played Sol: A History, where in one scene, a pilot says that EA Command "has small d***s". In Titan's case, I believe that would be enough. :p
Perhaps he was taking down the SSD Diablo? Some SOC pilot was taking about taking care of some bastard, I think. That might have done it.
Oh ****! That thing is twenty times larger than any ship in our database!
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...automatically vote for Bush in the next election....
:lol:
This is just sad. This is one of the reasons I'm happy I have my own laptop. No one can stop me from dling all the pr0n I want!
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that is a proxy. it just can't be blocked.
Actually, it can. There is a finite nodelist for the Tor network which is obtainable by webmasters.
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Maybe it went something like . . .
Dad: "What are all these downloads? 4 GB?"
Titan: "Oh yeah, I just downloaded The Babylon Project!"
Dad: "What's that?"
Titan: "This game some people made"
Dad: "You're downloading games illegally?"
Titan: "No, it's open source! It's a free game"
Dad: " Free game? I doubt it. I won't have you downloading illegal games in this house, you won't be able to visit there anymore."
Titan: "But dad, it's a free game, open source!"
Dad: "There's no such thing as a free game. You're banned from the site, that's final."
(No Offense to Titan Sr. If he reads this :D )
LMAO. You have officialy extended his punishment to 1 year.
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His dad seems to think that Microsoft = GodTM and open source = Satan/equivalent.
Titan's Dad: Son you must learn to trust in the Father: Microsoft, in the Son: Bill Gates, and the Holy Ghost: Windows.
Titan: But Dad freespace has like really cool graphics and stuff!
Titan's Dad: No son! you must stay away from the Warez Gods! it is blasphemy! *he then proceeds to take out an amulet in the shape of a window and starts humming the jingle you here when you start windows.*
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*sigh*
I've seen this kind of thing far too much. You know...and why should a kid/teenager/whatever have to argue with their parents so that their parents will come to a more reasonable and logical outcome instead of a kneejerk reaction based on no knowledge or understanding? Unless we're missing something here.
I guess I have a beef with this kind of thing. Drives me around the bend.
I'm with you on that one IceFire.
Here's a question: has Titan's father ever sat down and looked over HLP and the FreeSpace universe? Has he taken 10 minutes out of his day to bother to see what his kid is looking at rather than just assume it's bad?
HLP is frequented by people from all walks of life, including not a few people with varied degrees (or multiple degreees), a variety of national backgrounds, and a huge variety of employment backgrounds. It's hardly a stereotypical internet community, especially for young people.
Having grown up with the Internet's evolution myself, knowing far more about computing than anyone in my family, and having been exposed to some of the worst the Internet has to offer I can certainly respect what Titan's dad is trying to accomplish, but I think he's going about it in entirely the wrong way. Assuming you know what your kid is doing online is a far cry from actually knowing (and I say this as some whose parents thought they knew what I was doing and had absolutely no clue) and the absolute best policy about this technology is to sit down and explain your position, keeping an open line of communication going on.
There are far worse things in life that Titan could be getting himself into than sitting on HLP in his spare time. Now, if he's using this place and dodging homework and household responsibilities then that is another matter entirely.
Best thing you could do Titan is ask your dad to sit down with you and go over what HLP is, how it functions, and what exactly you do on this site. You might try a read over the Wikipedia article on open-source software as well, follow by quick redirection to unbuntu.com (surely your Dad has heard of Linux?), Sun Java, OpenOffice.org, and Sourceforge.net to explain how this works.
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But none of those programs are by Microsoft.
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His dad seems to think that Microsoft = GodTM and open source = Satan/equivalent.
Titan's Dad: Son you must learn to trust in the Father: Microsoft, in the Son: Bill Gates, and the Holy Ghost: Windows.
Titan: But Dad freespace has like really cool graphics and stuff!
Titan's Dad: No son! you must stay away from the Warez Gods! it is blasphemy! *he then proceeds to take out an amulet in the shape of a window and starts humming the jingle you here when you start windows.*
Oooohhhh....ROFL... :lol:
*cough* getting back on topic, what exactly is Titan Snr. concerned about HLP?
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what exactly is Titan Snr. concerned about HLP?
It doesn't appear to be HLP as such. It's more about the fact that Titan has been downloading a lot of stuff from the Interwebs for free. That can only be described as criminal activity. Criminal activity more severe than raping puppies.
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Perhaps it's due to downloading too much stuff, which can be troublesome if you don't have an unlimited download connection or a pay by gigabyte rate or something.
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What I'm getting from this is that Titan's dad believes that Titan is doing a lot of illegal downloading activities and general warez while discussing it with his online buddies and is thus in the following mood:
ˈFəkɪŋ pissed.
He probably fears that the FBI is going to be knocking at the door, telling them that they have fines for a quarter million dollars, a Felony charge, and that their hardware will be confiscated permanently.
I haven't heard of someone acting so... violently due to a simple exceeding of bandwidth.
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About Haloboys comment breaking ribs: if you suspect that something like that could have happened, for your own sake go see a doctor! Punched hard enough, rib bone can puncture lung, but this you would certainly know, had it happened.
However, if the broken part fastens itself back to the old part but in wrong angle or in wrong position, it will bother you a) for the rest of your life b) until it breaks next time, and it will do it easier. Also, if you take too long to visit doctor, they have to break it again! By the way this is coming from a person who didn't know he had broken one of his palm bones and had to see the X-ray picture to believe it. That happened fortnight after the fracture, but the broken part was not fastened to a wrong position and could be adjusted correctly.
Personally I'm starting to be quite tired of these kind of "men" that punch their kids or wifes, and surprisingly Italian and Spanish men are not indeed at the top of my good people list. If you lived any closer, I could come for a visit to dislocate a couple of joints and break some major limb bones. Of course, nothing that couldn't recuperate.
Also, titan, how much have you been playing with computer lately? I recall my father simply locked the computer for two weeks if I had been sitting too much in front of the screen (which I, admittedly, did quite a lot between ages 10 and 14). Time by time he was quite pissed off about playing too much, but it never went to violence.
Mika
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Perhaps it's due to downloading too much stuff, which can be troublesome if you don't have an unlimited download connection or a pay by gigabyte rate or something.
He uses this (http://www.juno.com/) internet connection. (he let slip a while ago)
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He downloaded 4GB on a dialup connection :eek2:
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Here's a question: has Titan's father ever sat down and looked over HLP and the FreeSpace universe? Has he taken 10 minutes out of his day to bother to see what his kid is looking at rather than just assume it's bad?
HLP is frequented by people from all walks of life, including not a few people with varied degrees (or multiple degreees), a variety of national backgrounds, and a huge variety of employment backgrounds. It's hardly a stereotypical internet community, especially for young people.
Having grown up with the Internet's evolution myself, knowing far more about computing than anyone in my family, and having been exposed to some of the worst the Internet has to offer I can certainly respect what Titan's dad is trying to accomplish, but I think he's going about it in entirely the wrong way. Assuming you know what your kid is doing online is a far cry from actually knowing (and I say this as some whose parents thought they knew what I was doing and had absolutely no clue) and the absolute best policy about this technology is to sit down and explain your position, keeping an open line of communication going on.
There are far worse things in life that Titan could be getting himself into than sitting on HLP in his spare time. Now, if he's using this place and dodging homework and household responsibilities then that is another matter entirely.
Best thing you could do Titan is ask your dad to sit down with you and go over what HLP is, how it functions, and what exactly you do on this site. You might try a read over the Wikipedia article on open-source software as well, follow by quick redirection to unbuntu.com (surely your Dad has heard of Linux?), Sun Java, OpenOffice.org, and Sourceforge.net to explain how this works.
That won't work. By the sounds of it, his dad has already made up his mind on HLP, and all he'll be doing is looking for bad things. And if you're looking for bad things, you'll find them even on the most perfect things ever, and I can't honestly say that HLP is more perfect than that. The only thing that would accomplish is a more definite not-allowing.
A slightly less bad thing to do would be to just simply explain the general story of HLP, Freespace, and the SCP.
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About Haloboys comment breaking ribs: if you suspect that something like that could have happened, for your own sake go see a doctor! Punched hard enough, rib bone can puncture lung, but this you would certainly know, had it happened.
However, if the broken part fastens itself back to the old part but in wrong angle or in wrong position, it will bother you a) for the rest of your life b) until it breaks next time, and it will do it easier. Also, if you take too long to visit doctor, they have to break it again! By the way this is coming from a person who didn't know he had broken one of his palm bones and had to see the X-ray picture to believe it. That happened fortnight after the fracture, but the broken part was not fastened to a wrong position and could be adjusted correctly.
Mika
Well, maybe he just chipped it, because after feeling it for a while I felt little bits around.
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That's horrible. Learn karate, ad subsequently get kicked out.
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bad idea.
try getting in on your parent's account if you can't get access anywhere else
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That's horrible. Learn karate, ad subsequently get kicked out.
Eh? Meh. Me and my dad (especially him) are Italian. Family fights are all part of the "love".
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Dude - family yelling matches are normal. if you got a cracked rib because of said love somthing is not right.
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Dude - family yelling matches are normal. if you got a cracked rib because of said love somthing is not right.
QFT And, downloading 4GB over dial-up is possible with resuming software that can auto-dial, resume the download, then hang up come early morning. I used to download all sorts of utilities and game demos at night. (Have to keep phone line free.) Figure 3KB/s average, that's 16.1 days if you do 24 hours a day. Let's say 6 hours of downloading per night. 64.72 days.
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now is that QTF in the sense of qouted for truth or other less polite meanings.
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I wasn't aware of the other meanings. Quoted For Truth.
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the other one is quit talking faggot or ****er depending on your mood
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I have a Bios password and a windows pass word so my parents cant get into my computer. im the computer geek of the house anyways. if they restart my computer they will get the bios password if they some how get pass that they will have the windows password to figer out and i don't use sort pass words there is a way to to bye pass window password in safe mode but my parent wouldn't now how to do that they proble don't even no what safe mode is
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now is that QTF in the sense of qouted for truth or other less polite meanings.
I do not sense any ambiguity in that abbreviation. You see, there actually is a difference between "QFT" and "QTF". They may be anagrams, but they are not identical abbreviations.
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That's horrible. Learn karate, ad subsequently get kicked out.
Eh? Meh. Me and my dad (especially him) are Italian. Family fights are all part of the "love".
*Insert comment about Mobius*
the other one is quit talking faggot or ****er depending on your mood
Queer ****ing Trannie.
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I have a Bios password and a windows pass word so my parents cant get into my computer. im the computer geek of the house anyways. if they restart my computer they will get the bios password if they some how get pass that they will have the windows password to figer out and i don't use sort pass words there is a way to to bye pass window password in safe mode but my parent wouldn't now how to do that they proble don't even no what safe mode is
How do you get a BIOS password exactly? :drevil:
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Usually there's a way to input a Supervisor/Administrator password and a User password. You can setup each to restrict access, primarily to the BIOS but often "Always", meaning every time the system boots. Combine this with a quick screensaver password and password required upon leaving standby, and you should have it pretty much buttoned up--two passwords upon booting and one upon waking.
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I have a Bios password and a windows pass word so my parents cant get into my computer. im the computer geek of the house anyways. if they restart my computer they will get the bios password if they some how get pass that they will have the windows password to figer out and i don't use sort pass words there is a way to to bye pass window password in safe mode but my parent wouldn't now how to do that they proble don't even no what safe mode is
If it's XP Pro, pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL twice will give you a window where you can type in
Administrator (case sensitive)
and log in if there's no password set. Home only lets you log in as admin in Safe Mode.
So, log in as Admin (Pro or Home) > go to Control Panel, User Accounts, now the Admin acct is displayed, set password, then you're totally buttoned up. ;)
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I also download a helluva lot of stuff, but my dad really doesn't care as long as it isn't porn...
.... Actually, he doesn't know I dl stuff. He doesn't know what are uTorrent and LimeWire.
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I also download a helluva lot of stuff, but my dad really doesn't care as long as it isn't porn...
.... Actually, he doesn't know I dl stuff. He doesn't know what are uTorrent and LimeWire.
That sounds like my dad. He knows I download some stuff, but I always tell him that it's legal (which most of the stuff I download are).
I don't think my dad knows the term "hentai" either...
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Which actually means perverted or strange :doubt:
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That sounds like my dad. He knows I download some stuff, but I always tell him that it's legal (which most of the stuff I download is).
I don't think my dad knows the term "hentai" either...
Sorry... I'm just anal at the second.
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:lol:
Why would supsersizing is be considered anal?
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Because it was are before
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/me finally recognises the grammatical error.
****... :mad:
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Haha, that's great.
Get a laptop, Titan. And hide it.
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Get a laptop, Titan. And hide it.
...Rectally.
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ew.
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Double ew.
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Mmm, rectal delight...
Srsly. Grow up, get your own apartment and get your own 'puter. Easy.
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The kid's what, 13 ? 14? Still got a long way to go.
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He's twelve. :blah:
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I said easy. Not fast.
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Well, maybe he just chipped it, because after feeling it for a while I felt little bits around.
Does that mean small parts of bone have fractured off? I think that is even worse then since it requires an operation to recuperate. According to my understanding, those small pieces make recuperating process harder (since they move easily and hinder to bone thickening process), and might also start moving in your body. Bone part getting stuck to a tendon or a muscle is something what you don't want to have.
Mika
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Meh. It was a month ago. I'm fine now.
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I have a Bios password and a windows pass word so my parents cant get into my computer. im the computer geek of the house anyways. if they restart my computer they will get the bios password if they some how get pass that they will have the windows password to figer out and i don't use sort pass words there is a way to to bye pass window password in safe mode but my parent wouldn't now how to do that they proble don't even no what safe mode is
bios password for logging into the bios. Bios password for being able to boot up the computer. A windows login password, a locked screensaver, and the ability to lock the session at any time manually. It's a pretty secure setup :yes: But with some big holes that only some people would realize.
Bios passwords are effective up until the point you just pop out the bios battery.
The next thing is the windows login password, easy to bypass if you go into safe mode which is actually a pretty well known back door for windows. Even if people don't know about safe mode, i'd just be popping in mepis livecd and "5T341Z Y0R D4T4!!!!", or seriously **** with the computer in other destructive or sneaky ways.
How can these holes be better patched with an otherwise awesomely layered security scheme? Encrypt your hard drive. That way, when you computer turns on, you put in the bios bootup password, the mbr gets accessed, and before windows gets a chance to load, you have to put in a password.
This is great because, if people take the time to pop out your bios battery, to change your bios to boot up with cdrom first or even floppy drive first to gain access to your system through some form livecd or floppy boot disk. They they most surely have the time to take out your hard drive and plop it into another computer and access it. If the drive is encrypted, they need the password to access the drive in any computer.
I've got drive encryption going on my system. And it's nice way to cover up some security holes. Never bet on the fact that some people wont try stuff on your computer because you think they don't know about how something works or of a certain backdoor.
Another hint. Set the bios to boot up with the hard drive first and not the floppy or cd drive first. You'll get a faster boot time. And it'll keep people from being able to use livecd's and floppy boot disks. If they wanted to use a livecd or floppy boot disk, then they'd have to pop out your bios battery. After that either way, they'd say "h3770 3ncrypt10n...SPF!!!!!!!!!!!!".
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Well I don't need to go that far every one in my family barely knows how to use a computer never mind knowing how to take a battery out. My dads ok with computer my mom just started to learn how to use computers and my sister makes computers crash i dont now what she does when she on the computer. but everyone she uses dies some were along the way.
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Drive encryption may not be necessary for your situation. But, you should try it out anyway just to see if you can get it working. It took me a couple of tries to get it right. Plus you would have learned something new i can definitely see you utilizing in the future.
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How exactly do you use these passwords?
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Is that a serious question?
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You hopefully only remember them and never have them anywhere else but your head. And then you make strong passwords, and then you input them correctly, and then you gain access. :yes:
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Is that a serious question?
I mean, like, how do you set them?
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Check out bios passwords, full drive encryption, and the os passwords should be a no brainer.
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With regard to drive encryption, TrueCrypt is your friend.
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With regard to drive encryption, TrueCrypt is your friend.
www.truecrypt.org
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dm-crypt is also your friend. Of course, truecrypt and dm-crypt, doesn't matter which one you use, they can be made to work with windows installs.
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Is that a serious question?
I mean, like, how do you set them?
There's usually something under settings. For a windows password, you'd have to go into the user settings. For the bios password, you'd have to go into your BIOS (restart your computer, push F7, F12, Delete, etc. to access the BIOS. The hotkey used differs among manufacturers/motherboards).
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Some BIOS manufacturers also put in permanent, generic passwords in the event that you forget the one chose and don't want to pop out the battery. These can be found with a simple Google search. Useful if you need to get into a passworded BIOS and the case is locked / has a warranty tamper label. Granted, you need to know what BIOS is in your system, because the generic passwords vary between manufacturers.
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For someone who's banned. You're managing quite a bit of net-time on a school night. Don't get caught :lol:
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*sigh*
I've seen this kind of thing far too much. You know...and why should a kid/teenager/whatever have to argue with their parents so that their parents will come to a more reasonable and logical outcome instead of a kneejerk reaction based on no knowledge or understanding? Unless we're missing something here.
I guess I have a beef with this kind of thing. Drives me around the bend.
I'm with you on that one IceFire.
Here's a question: has Titan's father ever sat down and looked over HLP and the FreeSpace universe? Has he taken 10 minutes out of his day to bother to see what his kid is looking at rather than just assume it's bad?
HLP is frequented by people from all walks of life, including not a few people with varied degrees (or multiple degreees), a variety of national backgrounds, and a huge variety of employment backgrounds. It's hardly a stereotypical internet community, especially for young people.
Having grown up with the Internet's evolution myself, knowing far more about computing than anyone in my family, and having been exposed to some of the worst the Internet has to offer I can certainly respect what Titan's dad is trying to accomplish, but I think he's going about it in entirely the wrong way. Assuming you know what your kid is doing online is a far cry from actually knowing (and I say this as some whose parents thought they knew what I was doing and had absolutely no clue) and the absolute best policy about this technology is to sit down and explain your position, keeping an open line of communication going on.
There are far worse things in life that Titan could be getting himself into than sitting on HLP in his spare time. Now, if he's using this place and dodging homework and household responsibilities then that is another matter entirely.
Best thing you could do Titan is ask your dad to sit down with you and go over what HLP is, how it functions, and what exactly you do on this site. You might try a read over the Wikipedia article on open-source software as well, follow by quick redirection to unbuntu.com (surely your Dad has heard of Linux?), Sun Java, OpenOffice.org, and Sourceforge.net to explain how this works.
Its just so much easier to assume a happy and narrow world view and think that everything is bad and harmful and therefore everything must be controlled, locked down, and otherwise restricted so that little Johnny doesn't hurt himself or doesn't find out anything about the world at all. The problem is...that eventually children grow up and they are totally utterly unprepared and so when they get their first taste of true freedom they go absolutely nuts. First year university...you know which ones had what kind of parents within a week.
HLP is probably one of the best places to be visiting I agree. Certainly better than 99% of message boards out there. Our diversity of age, nationality, and background gives us a much more wide open world view.
Maybe things will be different when I'm a parent but I hope someone smacks me upside the head if I ever behave the way that this guys father did.
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UUUUUUGGggghh!!1
Sheltering. It's evil. You got to go out there and socialize your kids! Or else you end up with some really naive and annoying kids who really don't know better about many things, and also just plain old don't know many things.
Reminds me going to a church private school for 6th and 7th grade. That place was fun to go to for sure. But, 8th grade i had to go back to public. And many many many others started calling me names and i didn't know what a single one of them meant. After that i was just curious why everybody was making fun of me. Then i closed up and became very anti-social.
Also reminds me of my friend i met years ago. Everyone didn't hang out with him because he was annoying and he'd steal your stuff. I figured out once you accepted him for who he is and even more over all become his friend then he wont steal your ****. But, he called like 15 times a day! This was a guy who lived 5 miles out of town, and got to go to town maybe once a month. He wanted to hang out all the time too.
HELLO SHELTERED AND UNSOCIALIZED KIDS...THE ABOVE WILL BE YOURS :yes:
Solutions? Yes.
I just got mad one day when my own friends started making fun of me too. So i took a bold step and started making friends with all of the bullies and doing constructive things like tutoring them, and teach them how to use certain win apps necessary for school. My betraying friends became the laughing stock....they just weren't cool, the bullies in my old school seriously were much cooler and nicer people.
And with a lot of patience, after like a year, my unsocialized friend learned the errors of his old ways with his big realization period, and became a normal person.
Why did all of this happen? In the first situation it took me a while for my stupor to wear off and realize damn that church private school didn't prepare me for **** because it ended up being a negatively impacting sheltering experience, grew out of my anti-socialness, and got better friends while at it. And the second situation i actually got my friend out of his house at least once a week to hang out in town.
Sometimes you got to realize that there are things that are necessary for you that your parents may end up never doing for you that they normally should have. And that's when you got to go out and do them for yourself, and even possibly help other people with them. Such as socializing...it's pretty important. Living under a nurturing umbrella of safety soley for a long period of life doesn't do any good.
Good luck titan in your 1984 novel life of an experience that is happening for you now :lol:
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
Remember that when you're a parent.
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Heh, perhaps we should pin this topic
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Porquoi?
And I'd never become a parent, by the time I do, the government will have complete control over that aspect of life.
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I could never be a good enough parent... so I'm hoping I never will be.
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There's one thing I suggest though, don't move to the U.S.
Or at least not until a few years after Bush leaves.
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
What about the rural areas of canada? I assume when you mention bike, you mean dirt motor bike and not pedal mountain bike? I was just thinking of the possibility of living in canada because i actually do know that over there it is a very nice place. Or maybe i should stick with alaska which would be part of canada hadn't the russians never even been here in 1764 for 100 years (alaska history is interesting...so as the russians coming here, and you're descendants thinking seward's folly at the end of the civil war).
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
Is it that they've banned dirt-bikes, or do they have an age ban?
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
Is it that they've banned dirt-bikes, or do they have an age ban?
Age ban. Kids under 16 aren't allowed to operate motorized vehicles - because they are quite unsafe and many kids are killed every year on dirt bikes and ATVs.
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Aw man. Now I'm the only 12 year old guy aroudn here :(
Ah well, my parents never freaked out much about dling pr0n :nervous:
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:lol:
In Singapore, you cannot drink liquor, drive or smoke under the age of eighteen.
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:lol:
In Singapore, you cannot drink liquor, drive or smoke under the age of eighteen.
Driving is 21 now, I heard. For those born in 1990 ?
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And the government doesn't help with this (the Canadian one at least). They've got so many laws, it's like they're trying to eliminate a parent's job. It's gotten so bad that you can't walk down the street without a helmet and full body armor. Most of it in NS is the IWK, our local children's hospital. I can't drive mt dirt bike anymore, because parents didn't do their jobs and kids got killed. I've been driving since I was 5, and am perfectly responsible, but the government just blanket-bans everything.
Is it that they've banned dirt-bikes, or do they have an age ban?
Age ban. Kids under 16 aren't allowed to operate motorized vehicles - because they are quite unsafe and many kids are killed every year on dirt bikes and ATVs.
Yes but compared tot he number that drive them responsibly without incident, it is a very low number who are killed.
In my area, the last dirt bike/ATV fatality was over 20 years ago. There have been few injuries, with more occurring on pedal bikes. The whole issue has been inflated by the IWK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IWK_Health_Centre). The problem is that parents won't teach their kids to ride responsibly, nor will they be responsible themselves. They gives their kids a 750cc ATV When they're 7 years old, and just let them go, barely teaching them to ride.
Now, the province has instituted learning courses, with small 80cc ATVs, an appropriate size, and the hospital still wants an outright ban, even though the responsible thing is being done. The kids are being given the option to learn in a safe environment, and if that is taken away, the parents will just plunk them on that 750 instead of taking the similarly easy but safer option.
One thing that I hate is the fact that dirt bikes are considered less safe, and that several laws that were brought around before the creating of ATVs haven't been modified to include them. I have been driving a bike since I was 5, one of an appropriate size, and yet I still get tarred with the same brush.
And S-99, Canada is an awesome place to be, regardless of this issue, I'd move here if you got the chance.
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Driving is 21 now, I heard. For those born in 1990 ?
Blast. Never mind, I'll take public transport or use my feet. :D
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Damn? WTH is up with people? SPF! It's not hard to teach kids how to ride an atv. It's not hard to forget to teach either. In fact it's downright fun. Thx to me a whole bunch of 8 year old kids from ghana know how to operate a basic motorized vehicle. And teaching my little brother how to ride an atv was a blast. First you take the helm on some very long trips and they hop on the back. And then when you're done talking about it, you sit on the back and let them take the helm. I always gave my bro 8 miles of distance so he could learn faster. I had a 500cc 1999 arctic cat.
Surprisingly a thick bungee cable makes a pretty good seat belt on those things too.
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In Singapore, you cannot drink liquor, drive or smoke under the age of eighteen.
You can download porn as long as you don't distribute it though. ;7
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I remember thinking about governments in a certain way: that they were made to keep us safe. I think it's going a bit too far when they limit our activities for the sake of safety. Security is but one step above safety. Ring some bells?
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You can download porn as long as you don't distribute it though. ;7
Damnit!
Uh, I mean, really ?
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You can download porn as long as you don't distribute it though. ;7
Damnit!
Uh, I mean, really ?
Yes, I think so. As long as you don't distribute whatever garbage you have, you should be all right.
There was a newspaper report some months back about a guy who sent his PC for servicing in Singapore. The technician recovered some Internet porn from his computer, which he supposedly deleted. The owner wasn't jailed for that, though, but the article did say that it was "embarrassing".
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People are much too dumb these days with their own data. And i'm not talking about the not backing up part of it. Sending in your own pc with your own data on it for repair? If it's a software problem, or hardware problem following a stability test, techs are going to be diving through that hard drive. They always find stuff along the way. You can't plan on having honest humble good techs to work on your comp all the time. Hide the data, encrypt it, or in the least put all of your data on another storage device or something. The average computers i work on just have images and documents that the owner of the computer created. Occasionally i see music, and that was only on one computer. Most people i fix computers for have their own business, or just have an email machine. But still, you don't know what a tech is going to find and do with said data.
For me i'm like hey look what i found, and turn a blind eye to it, get my job done, and get my pay. Owners of computers really don't think about when a tech works on their personal rig.
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Unless you find something that means people are being harmed / exploited on the computer, really, it's prolly not worth the trouble. I mean, if it's pirated software, who says they didn't pay for it? Dishonest dealers can charge $100 for installing pirated copies of MS Office or Windows. Pr0n could be kids' friends over and using the computer (yes, they do that). So, really, unless you find child pr0n or something of equal significance, I dunno if it's really worth it to squeal. Thoughts?
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I think that one should ignore any of that stuff, cause most people pirate stuff anyway, and many people watch pr0n, so you can't really turn them in, or shouldn't confront them, unless it's CP or something. And if you do confront them for minor stuff, bye-bye customer.
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No i was thinking along the lines of techs stealing passwords or financial information and not telling the person whose computer they fixed that they got this juicy information and will do some bad with it.
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Well, you run into that any place you use your credit card or your bank... anyone that works there can abuse that info. There are penalties, however, and usually they perps (eventually) get caught.
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Very true. But, not so much with computer tech jobs. Computer tech jobs it's easier to find goldmines of data on occasion with the surf the net only and occasional office suite usage computer customers. Computer tech jobs it's a lot easier to go unnoticed as long as it's a dumb user in hand who got the shaft.