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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 09:08:49 am

Title: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 09:08:49 am
Self-explanatory title:
Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
(windows version... i found already a good number of Mac versions but i can't install them).
Thanks
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 09:12:50 am
Within new enough drivers for your graphics card.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 09:49:27 am
Does this mean i can download it from somewhere or not?
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Wobble73 on June 20, 2008, 09:54:57 am
Does this mean i can download it from somewhere or not?

Yes, go to the your graphics cards website and download the latest version of drivers from their site!

What graphics chip do you have?

Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 09:57:49 am
You do not download OpenGL, it is in the graphics card drivers.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 12:45:44 pm
What graphics chip do you have?

ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500 AGP (LW)
DAC type: INTERNAL DAC (350MHz)

Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 12:47:04 pm
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html

No wait. A Mobility one. Check your laptop manufacturer's site for drivers.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Fury on June 20, 2008, 01:21:49 pm
Computer manufacturers usually don't keep up-to-date with their drivers. Try Omega Drivers to see if they work with your card, it uses modified inf-file to install drivers even on mobility radeons. http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati.php
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: tinfoil on June 20, 2008, 01:26:22 pm
I might have it - PM me. i'm not sure whether it's 1.2 or 1.5 though.

Edit: here's 1.1

Edit2: Removed
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 01:35:26 pm
*FACEPALM*

It's included with drivers, you don't actually download it. That is 13 years old, the one you uploaded.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: tinfoil on June 20, 2008, 01:36:06 pm
what?
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Fury on June 20, 2008, 02:38:45 pm
This is the origin of the file tinfoil posted; http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154877
It is OpenGL API for Windows 95. :p

As has been said many times now. To get latest OpenGL functionality for your video card, install latest drivers. It won't magically update your OpenGL games with better graphics though, just like playing a DirectX 8 game won't look any better on video card supporting DX9 or newer.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 02:42:50 pm
what?
I assume most people at HLP have evolved beyond Windows 95 by now.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: tinfoil on June 20, 2008, 02:49:27 pm
Damn Cole and his editing.
any way he wanted 1.2 and i gave him 1.1  which is only slightly older
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Mobius on June 20, 2008, 02:55:01 pm
Edivad's a bit confused, he'd like a step-to-step guide...
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 02:55:05 pm
any way he wanted 1.2 and i gave him 1.1  which is only slightly older
Giving people 13-year-old files meant for Windows 95 might not be that helpful nowadays. Especially since every other person in this thread has stated that updating graphics drivers brings forth the latest and greatest installment of OpenGL.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: tinfoil on June 20, 2008, 02:55:46 pm
Fine. ignore it. I don't really care
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 03:16:28 pm
Edivad's a bit confused, he'd like a step-to-step guide...

Great... Mobius seems always to be reading in my mind.... it must be some sort of strange italian psychic ability....
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Mobius on June 20, 2008, 03:25:08 pm
Eh? You told me that...you forget things so easily...eat some fish! :P
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 03:25:56 pm
Edivad's a bit confused, he'd like a step-to-step guide...

Great... Mobius seems always to be reading in my mind.... it must be some sort of strange italian psychic ability....
First, find a set of drivers suitable for your graphics card. If you want to be cutting-edge and have all the newest ****, do what Fury said and try the Omega drivers. If you want to play it safe, browse through your laptop manufacturer's site and look for drivers for the particular laptop you have.

Then, when you've downloaded the new drivers, uninstall the old ones. Happens by opening the Add/Remove Program thing from the Control Panel (assuming you are running XP or the likes). Find the part that says ATI Software Uninstallation Utility or something like that. Uninstall it: it should remove anything ATI related. Reboot when promted. Go and check the same Add/Remove Program list to see if there are still ATI components there. If yes, remove them as well. If not, proceed.

Install the new drivers you recently downloaded. Reboot when promted.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 03:38:08 pm
@tinfoil (and Edivad): OpenGL is a way that GPUs use to render stuff. The thing you posted is an API, which seems to be a GUI, a.k.a just shiny stuff. OpenGL is inside the video card drivers, similar to D3D. To get OpenGL, install new drivers.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 20, 2008, 04:12:21 pm
ok, i updated the video driver downloading the last version i found on the IBM site...
However, there still seems to be no Open GL 1.2 (as the FRED-error log below shows)
now, i have a doubt... my laptop dates back to 2002... is it possible for such a thing to use the recent version of openGL?

EDIT: to the INFASA team members: the standard versions of FS SCP INF-ALLIANCE and INFRENO SCP were running fine... is the new FRED-INFASA so much different from the previous FRED-SCP???

HERE THE FRED - ERROR LOG

Error: Current GL Version of 1.1 is less than the required version of 1.2.
Switch video modes or update your drivers.
File: gropengl.cpp
Line: 4714


Call stack:
------------------------------------------------------------------
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061d36b()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061c34f()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061c557()
    USER32.dll 7e398734()
    USER32.dll 7e39d05b()
    USER32.dll 7e39b4c0()
    USER32.dll 7e39f9fe()
    ntdll.dll 7c91eae3()
    USER32.dll 7e39fecc()
    USER32.dll 7e39ff66()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061ca64()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061caec()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 00631aa8()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 00631af5()
    fred2_open_3_6_10_INF.exe 0061d36b()
------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: tinfoil on June 20, 2008, 04:14:37 pm
I feel inferior suggesting this but maybe use D3D
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 04:15:11 pm
I think that that GPU may be too old.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Mobius on June 20, 2008, 04:28:38 pm
He needs OpenGL to run INFASA and FRED INF... :)
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2008, 04:57:18 pm
I think that that GPU may be too old.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 20, 2008, 05:01:57 pm
i think that your laptop vidio card to change to nividia geforce fx go 5700 most you have than it works

Srsly, though. If the error persists even after updating the drivers, the only explanations are that either he managed to get yet another set of oldish drivers or the graphics card, lacking a better term, sucks. Tough luck. Either switch back to a working version of FRED or face the consequences.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Fury on June 21, 2008, 01:21:16 am
Like I said, computer manufacturers do not usually update drivers. As a matter of fact, unless there is a serious bug or incompatibility problem in the drivers that the laptop was shipped with, it is unlikely new drivers will be released. This means Edivad probably installed same version of the driver he already had.

For laptops it is often only choice to get 3rd party modified drivers, like Omega Drivers I mentioned earlier. However, laptop specific features may not work with such drivers, including but not necessarily limited to power management, external displays and tv-out.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 25, 2008, 01:07:23 pm
ok so, unless i change computer, there is NOTHING i can do to use INFASA; did i understand well??
come on, there will be here some computer genius who can solve my problem.... I heard it is possible to download the OPENGL1,2.....  could this be a possible hope? If it is, how?
Thanks again
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 25, 2008, 01:12:03 pm
A similar scenario occured in another thread. Do make sure that you have a proper set of chipset drivers installed for your motherboard. Having none might hinder anything achieved with the graphics card.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Fury on June 25, 2008, 01:26:21 pm
ok so, unless i change computer, there is NOTHING i can do to use INFASA; did i understand well??
come on, there will be here some computer genius who can solve my problem.... I heard it is possible to download the OPENGL1,2.....  could this be a possible hope? If it is, how?
Thanks again
Ummm... try the Omega Drivers like I've suggested at least twice?
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 25, 2008, 08:56:37 pm
http://files.ngohq.com/omega/ATI/rad_w2kxp_omega_38252_7z.exe.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Admiral Edivad on June 27, 2008, 04:51:51 pm
Yeah... thanks Fury!
It works!
See you to the next problem!!
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Agent_Koopa on June 27, 2008, 05:11:49 pm
What precisely are the Omega drivers? What separates them from manufacturer-issued drivers?
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Jeff Vader on June 27, 2008, 05:14:39 pm
What separates them from manufacturer-issued drivers?
Google?

http://www.omegadrivers.net/about.php
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: MP-Ryan on June 27, 2008, 06:01:31 pm
What precisely are the Omega drivers? What separates them from manufacturer-issued drivers?

They're custom-written and tweaked to performance prior to installation.  In some cases, they fix known manufacturer bugs.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 27, 2008, 06:10:41 pm
How come there are so many ads on the site? (not that AdBlock doesn't fix that :P)

Like honestly, that's the most I've ever seen.

EDIT: The new site seems to be better, but look at the old one on Archive.org.
Title: Re: Where can I get OpenGL 1.2?
Post by: Fury on June 28, 2008, 01:16:59 am
tweaked to performance prior to installation
Actually Omega Drivers have been traditionally tweaked for image quality. Unless that has changed in the last few years.