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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 01:21:00 am

Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 01:21:00 am
... i may ressurect the Unholy Alliance project

I just need Sufficient support shown, I cannot do this ALONE I'm not an artist, or too great a story  writer at that


basically im just a programmer, and a pretty [?over?]confident one at that, so i would appreciate help if I were to ressurect it

[2nd edit = my spelling rules at 1:30 AM]
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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?


[This message has been edited by Kazan (edited 02-24-2001).]
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Shrike on February 25, 2001, 01:29:00 am
As I told you on ICQ, I _can_ help you with storyline stuff.  I'm sure you could bend Setekh's arm enough to do skins......he's such a p1mp for exposure.  He needs to take a break from FSS pics......they're twisting him.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 01:30:00 am
what i would need artist for is
animations - including cutscenes

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Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Shrike on February 25, 2001, 01:33:00 am
For what, specifically?  I guess it depends what you need done, how difficult it'll be to find someone.
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 01:40:00 am
Well... *tried to remember the first one*

The initial cutscene

Two fleets - Terran/Vasudan and Shivan approaching each other, suggestive of a coming battle

Then within firing range nothing happens, the two fleets form up into one and the image zooms in on the bridge of the flagship of the terran section of the fleet, into the bridge you see a view screen with a shivan in it and computerized english speach - the commanders are greating each other [and so on]

the fleets move tword a planet in the background.

A monologue begins - [artist can do whatever they would like with the camera, complete freedom here]
"So, Bosch brings the bribe of friendship with the Shivans when he returns.  ETAK has allowed us the break the communication barrier.  So we forge another alliance.  Twice before the shivans came and destroyed our worlds, now they come as friends."

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Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Shrike on February 25, 2001, 01:48:00 am
Yeee.........getting/making 3D models of the people and shivans might be difficult, you know.
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Setekh on February 25, 2001, 01:56:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
He needs to take a break from FSS pics......they're twisting him.    (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) I'm having fun!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 02:18:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif) I'm having fun!   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

exactly the problem  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Admiral on February 25, 2001, 05:38:00 am
Well I would like it saved, although maybe you should give up on the cutscenes.  If all else fails couldn't you find a way to use in-game graphics with a voiceover.

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Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Jabu on February 25, 2001, 01:50:00 pm
If you get me the script and the models (in 3DS or LW format), I MIGHT be able to get one of my über-l33t friends to make you a cutscene. But it would be a standard video file.
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 25, 2001, 02:30:00 pm
no it wouldn't be.. they would just have to render it to TGA frames at 30 fps 640 x 320, and the sound.. V would compress them and stuff

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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Jabu on February 25, 2001, 02:44:00 pm
I'll ask around. If they're not too busy, I might be able to persuade them to do that  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

But don't count on it.
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: IceFire on February 26, 2001, 08:05:00 pm
Kazan, I'm normally an optomist and I really want to have a couple of cutscenes for BWO if time permits, but having people and Shivans is NOT easy at all.

I suggest what you do is focus on getting those missions sparkling clean with as few errors as possible and done up with all those messages and whatnot.  Thats what counts.  Then if you have time, I suggest making single frame Command Briefings...use some of the rendering talent on here like Setekth and have him make you some of those scenes.  Pictures can speak almost as much as movies can.
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 26, 2001, 09:11:00 pm
good point

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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Setekh on February 26, 2001, 10:47:00 pm
*ears prick up*
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Shrike on February 27, 2001, 03:56:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Setekh:
*ears prick up*

He means to say

*crystalline arrays activated*
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Setekh on February 27, 2001, 04:20:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
He means to say

*crystalline arrays activated*

  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

AWACS online would also be suitable.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Anyway, back on topic. What exactly do you need, Kazan?

[This message has been edited by Setekh (edited 02-27-2001).]
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 27, 2001, 09:58:00 pm
thanks for the newsie setekh

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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Setekh on February 28, 2001, 01:31:00 am
You're welcome buddy.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Now, what (or who) do you need?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 28, 2001, 06:08:00 am
Mission designer, losing fork, 15 missions
Artists, CB Animations
Artists, Cutscenes
Play testers [since release everyone can playtest those misons and post feedback]
Pilot chatter voice authors [must be able to edit missions, he/she will be entering the chatter into the mission script]
Voice talent [tword very end]

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Did you say you wanted your head used as a soccer ball?
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Ace on February 28, 2001, 06:45:00 pm
Actually, Mike Kulas said that he would convert cutsceens in jest.

This is due to Interplay's copyrights on the compression technology, which if you notice is why MVE EXTRACT is not available. (due to threats by Interplay's lawyers)

People would settle for an install launcher similar to I-War's, and the movie being an .mpeg or .avi.

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Ace
Staff member FreeSpace Watch
 http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/ ("http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/")
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Kazan on February 28, 2001, 09:23:00 pm
I know they will encode them.. i need someone to RENDER them... *meh*

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Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Turnsky on March 01, 2001, 01:43:00 am
I don't create models nor do i make skins but i'll gladly playtest any missions (if you wish) because even though i cannot do anything much i don't want to see a mod of this magnitude fade away into nothing.

i have no website but i'm an experienced gamer who can give you constructive critisim.

if you reply to this i'll email my email address to you personally.

[This message has been edited by Turnsky (edited 02-28-2001).]
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Shrike on March 01, 2001, 01:46:00 am
Welcome the new member!
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Setekh on March 01, 2001, 02:02:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Shrike:
Welcome the new member!
Title: If you _really_ want it saved ...
Post by: Terminal_Decline on March 07, 2001, 02:42:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Ace:
Actually, Mike Kulas said that he would convert cutsceens in jest.

This is due to Interplay's copyrights on the compression technology, which if you notice is why MVE EXTRACT is not available. (due to threats by Interplay's lawyers)

People would settle for an install launcher similar to I-War's, and the movie being an .mpeg or .avi.

Volition CAN convert cutscenes...they just can't distribute the conversion program.