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Title: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: NeonShivan on July 06, 2008, 09:14:50 pm
 :mad: This is not great for me. The Campaigns like Sol: A History is a RAR File. Can someone post campains here that is not RAR FIled or 7Z. Thanks. :nod:
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Droid803 on July 06, 2008, 09:19:57 pm
Download 7-zip.
Its free.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 06, 2008, 09:50:58 pm
Or ultimate zip. Its free too.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 07, 2008, 02:39:34 am
Another vote for 7-Zip. It's as free as a software can be and it will handle, among other things, .rars and .7z's. Easy to install, easy to use, doesn't waste resources or disk space and does absolutely no evil things to your computer.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: MP-Ryan on July 07, 2008, 03:57:06 am
Uh, yeah.  Another for 7Zip.  Why wouldn't you download it, rather than asking for ordinary zip files?
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 07, 2008, 04:05:02 am
Hmm. A small comparison for you, dear BTA.

Scenario 1 - You refuse to get 7-Zip: You'll be restricted to the .zip format, which means that people will have to find campaigns, pack them up as .zips and host/upload them somewhere. The result: Slightly difficult, highly time-consuming and extremely frustrating for others, easy but incredibly slow for you, since you'll have to wait until a .zip has been uploaded.

Scenario 2 - You agree to get 7-Zip: You can immediately start finding campaigns yourself, using the Missions & Campaigns board and/or FreeSpaceMods as your source. When you find one, you just download it and extract with 7-Zip, since no one ever uses an archive format not supported by 7-Zip. The result: Other people are not concerned and therefore their lives remain easy. You'll have to see some (insignificant) trouble downloading and installing 7-Zip, but that's it.

Compare these two methods and let us know of your decision. If you choose the first... well, sucks to be you.

Edited to better correspond with the cold, harsh world we live in.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: MP-Ryan on July 07, 2008, 04:26:45 am
Compare these two methods and let us know of your decision.

Keeping in mind that the rest of us generally have better things to do than repackage perfectly functional compressed archives because someone else is lazy...

(Sorry Lobo, your hint was too subtle.  Sometime the cold, hard, blunt truth is definitely called for :P)
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 07, 2008, 04:42:20 am
What if he has a Titan scenario and can't download stuff like 7-z ?
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 07, 2008, 05:12:26 am
(Sorry Lobo, your hint was too subtle.  Sometime the cold, hard, blunt truth is definitely called for :P)
Gotcha.

Get 7-Zip or DIE.

What if he has a Titan scenario and can't download stuff like 7-z ?
Well, then he should be fully banned from his computer like Titan. Having a critical approach when downloading new programs is wise, yes. But the line between a safe way of thinking and paranoia is quite thin.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: karajorma on July 07, 2008, 05:47:32 pm
Actually he could just get Turey's installer which downloads everything as zips IIRC. :D
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: griffon67 on July 07, 2008, 05:50:07 pm
aren't they downloaded and then unpacked automatically ?
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: karajorma on July 07, 2008, 05:53:53 pm
Yep.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Droid803 on July 07, 2008, 06:21:10 pm
Depends how up-to-date the campaign list on the installer is though.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 08, 2008, 03:23:12 am
But I do believe that the Installer doesn't get all the "lesser" classics, such as Second Great War Part 2.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Stormkeeper on July 08, 2008, 03:43:32 am
Iirc ... No. It gets the more celebrated campaigns like Derelict, Sync, JAD. Basically the entire "reccomended playing" list.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: NeonShivan on July 14, 2008, 11:44:14 am
So Z-Zip is free? I not angry at .zip. I just need any campaigns that is R.A.R Filed to .Zip. Some People may not have it. Or exe.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Daeron on July 14, 2008, 11:48:14 am
Last time I checked, Winrar was free as well. :p
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 14, 2008, 11:53:34 am
So Z-Zip is free?
7-Zip is free, yes. And I'd recommend switching to it. It can do everything Winzip can, but more efficiently.

I just need any campaigns that is R.A.R Filed to .Zip.
:wtf: wat

rar... filed to zip? Rar is an archive format like zip. If you zip a rar, you still have to extract both and you'll end up back to square one.

Last time I checked, Winrar was free as well. :p
Actually, shareware. Which means that it is technically "illegal" to use it after the evaluation period without registering (=paying money for) it.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Daeron on July 14, 2008, 12:14:24 pm
Last time I checked, Winrar was free as well. :p
Actually, shareware. Which means that it is technically "illegal" to use it after the evaluation period without registering (=paying money for) it.

Ohh, right, my bad. :p What you get when you quickly google and your screen gets filled with free downloads here and there. The "free of charge" part means some website doesn't charge you for dowloading a free trial you can just as well download on the company's own site...
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: achtung on July 14, 2008, 12:41:33 pm
http://7-zip.org/

That will satisfy all of your needs.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 14, 2008, 01:42:07 pm
This is annoying.

7-ZIP IS FREE!! IT IS NOT ILLEGAL! IT IS A SMALL DOWNLOAD!! IT DOES NOT HAVE VIRUSES!!!

Simple enough?
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 14, 2008, 01:45:32 pm
 :sigh: This really is annoying...
I suppose it would help if the program was called Win-7-Zip. But no. As one of the great legendary heroes has said: "Life sucks and then you ****in' die!".
How 'bout this logical conclusion:

7-Zip is open source.
FSO is open source.
FSO is nice.
FSO has no viruses.
-> 7-Zip is nice and has no viruses.

Edited because I just remembered that there are some legal complications that probably revoke the "free" status of FSO.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: james777 on August 03, 2008, 10:00:33 am
no use IZArc.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 03, 2008, 10:10:56 am
Hmm. A matter of preference. IZArc may support a load of formats, but most of those are really rare ones. I've never even seen a few of those before. 7-Zip opens up the ones used by this community with no hassle. And is, again, resource-friendly and fast.

Quote from: Wikipedia
IZArc has incomplete 7-Zip support
What have we here? That's bad. Bad. Not good. Especially since the 7z format is not all that uncommon around here.

Oh well. I do hope BTA has understood that his options are to either get some archive tool or not play any more campaigns. Since no one is going to start uploading zipped campaigns for his convenience.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Snail on August 03, 2008, 11:20:59 am
(just out of curiosity, is BTA ITA Master?) :nervous:
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 03, 2008, 11:21:30 am
(just out of curiosity, is BTA ITA Master?) :nervous:
:lol:

I was just thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 03, 2008, 11:23:55 am
(just out of curiosity, is BTA ITA Master?) :nervous:
:lol:

I was just thinking the same thing.
:shaking: There's always the possibility...
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 03, 2008, 11:26:29 am
Investigation reveals BTA registered approximately a month after ITA Master did... and stopped posting a day after ITA Master did.


Shuffling through ITA Master's old campaign pages, I just realised he wished himself good luck once.
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Titan on August 04, 2008, 07:28:26 pm
What if he has a Titan scenario and can't download stuff like 7-z ?

... Titan scenario?  :wtf:

heh...
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: colecampbell666 on August 04, 2008, 07:40:54 pm
He means "What if his parents are paranoid of anything non-MS and won't let him download any other programs".
Title: Re: Any non "RAR" Campaigns!
Post by: Excalibur on August 04, 2008, 08:06:09 pm
I've had WinRAR for years, and all that happens is that a "your eval. period has ended" message comes up if you actually open the exe, not if you use the shortcuts, and you can still use it anyway... :wtf: or you can put it on a CD Write only, so that it is always on day one of the eval. period (at least, I think this works).

Or you can just get 7-z. Call it -Win-7-z so it looks like MS, since it is for Windows...