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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 12:26:23 pm

Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 12:26:23 pm
Well, I am learning how to model FS2 and the Shivans are my favorite alien race (by far), in any game, show, etc. So, I came up with the idea to create a Shivan Stealth fighter. I planned on useing the Asaroth design and changing the design some. I would then proceed to give it the stealth capabilities required and used by Terran AWACs. I am currently in the editing process (trying to figure out how I can edit it. ><)

But when I'm done, I think I'll release it. :P
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Droid803 on July 12, 2008, 12:30:29 pm
Use the SC Lamia!
It is even Hi-Poly!

There's a shortage of shivan destroyers and corvettes though. I ended up giving up my search and used the SCv Scylla and SD Kismat.

http://freespacemods.net/download.php
that's a goodp lace to look though
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on July 12, 2008, 12:39:39 pm
Wow, uh, this is an old thread.
I might model some shivans myself sometime, but . . . . who knows when that would ever happen. I have enough stuff that I'm not doing already.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Droid803 on July 12, 2008, 12:50:53 pm
Dang. I only read the date on the post above mine to make sure I wasn't necrothreading. I fail. :warp:
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 01:01:32 pm
2003... wow. :/ I didn't see that. :P *guilty* I still plan to make my shivan stealth fighter. :P
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: BengalTiger on July 12, 2008, 04:04:30 pm
There's a few coming, from fighters to destroyers, but if I said more, I'd spoil something.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 04:56:42 pm
lol. No need to spoil anything. My Shivan scouts will find out soon enough...  :3
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Snail on July 12, 2008, 05:05:40 pm
lol. No need to spoil anything. My Shivan scouts will find out soon enough...  :3
Roleplaying, are we?

Alpha 1 will getcha.

(Thread split, not locked just yet)
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 05:27:05 pm
lol nevah!
Anyways, I'm still trying to figure out what program will allow me to move points (dots) around. :/ Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: ShadowGorrath on July 12, 2008, 06:59:35 pm
Wings3D? Truespace? Etc?
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 12, 2008, 07:02:07 pm
Ok, I'll try Wings3D. Truespace treats me like hell. :/
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 14, 2008, 01:40:35 pm
Use Blender, it's a bit harder to learn, but much more powerful. As for the description in the first post, that sounds like the Chimaera from INFR1.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 14, 2008, 04:08:18 pm
Ok, I'll try Blender.

And about the chimaera, I have never seen it. :/ I want to avoid geting anything closely resemling it.
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 14, 2008, 07:13:41 pm
Download INFR1 or the new Shivan mod, and it's the one with ribbed looking front block gun barrel things.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 14, 2008, 07:32:52 pm
k. I have a few questions for anyone who can answer them.
1. What converter do you suggest for modeling with blender?
2. How do I convert rar files?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 14, 2008, 08:06:33 pm
If I'm not wrong, save the files as a .COB, and open them with PCS2. (check the FSO forum)
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 15, 2008, 12:09:31 am
Ok, but I thought PCS2 was basically a viewer. I noticed it said construction, but isn't that basically the data (stats) that are incorperated into the final design?
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Droid803 on July 15, 2008, 12:40:09 am
Nono. PCS2 is not a viewer. Its used to convert from COB -> POF, and add all the little data bits to make it work (like turrets, gun points, etc).
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 15, 2008, 12:44:16 am
... O..K... I haven't looked at it in a while since my comp's data was moved to a random folder by a virus. k I'll see what I can do with my model. Thanks.
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 15, 2008, 10:00:49 am
PCS2 is what you use to make your models work in FS2. It converts them to .POF, adds data such as firing/docking points, and more.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Hellstryker on July 15, 2008, 12:46:11 pm
k. I have a few questions for anyone who can answer them.
1. What converter do you suggest for modeling with blender?
2. How do I convert rar files?
Thanks!

A .rar file is an archive which contains files, not a model file. to extract the files within it, you'll need either WinRAR (nagware) or 7zip (recommended)
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 15, 2008, 01:16:28 pm
yeah, I figured that out.  :lol: my problem is finding a good converter for GMax so I can get a clean transfer from pof/cob to 3DS format. I've done it through renaming it and changing the format type there, but when I opened it, I got an error. :/ And that's an error I'm trying to get around. Well, thanks for the info of PCS2

And thanks, colecampbell666. I'll see if I can get it opened.  ;)
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Jouzin on July 16, 2008, 03:40:24 am
Try 3D Studio Max or blender. I am using Truespace and 3D Studio. But these days I am learning how to use Maya :)

GL and HF with making models for FS2 :)
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 16, 2008, 08:29:25 am
I assume he'll use Blender, as Max is 600$. (unless you steal it, and in that case you can get Lightwave just as easily)

Is Lightwave better for FS modeling than Max?
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 16, 2008, 09:35:02 am
well I have a trial for GMax. But, my trial doesn't seem to end... it's kinda disturbing.  :P
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 16, 2008, 10:09:43 am
He means 3DS MAX. Different program altogether.
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Hellstryker on July 16, 2008, 01:24:16 pm
I assume he'll use Blender, as Max is 600$. (unless you steal it, and in that case you can get Lightwave just as easily)

Is Lightwave better for FS modeling than Max?

Lightwave is the program for modeling. Let me put it to you this way, BSG used it.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 16, 2008, 01:29:00 pm
So, should I use Lightwave, 3DSMax, or Blender? I'm just trying to find the one that wors best. And but he sound of it, Lightwave sounds best.
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Droid803 on July 16, 2008, 01:31:56 pm
I've heard good things about all three of those. Its mostly just personal preference, and which one you're more used to/which one you can actually get.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 16, 2008, 01:46:17 pm
ok. thanks! you guys have been a huge help! =D
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 16, 2008, 08:03:01 pm
One thing, Blender is free, MAX is 600$, Lightwave is 1000$.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 16, 2008, 11:52:08 pm
oh wow. I think I'll try Blender then. lol I have GMax, but there seems to be no way to safely convert to 3DS so I can edit it. D: Hopefully blender will fair better. Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 17, 2008, 08:32:39 am
Blender is great, it can do anything the expensive programs can, and more in some cases.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 17, 2008, 12:41:22 pm
i have it now and am figuring it out. What converter would be best to get pof into 3ds? (or whatever blender uses)
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 17, 2008, 12:45:39 pm
PCS2.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 17, 2008, 12:47:45 pm
PCS2 is a model converter? Oo ok. I didn't know that. I've been told it was for coding the statistics of the model. :P Thanks. I'll figure it out when I'm on my good computer.
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Snail on July 17, 2008, 12:50:23 pm
PCS2 goes straight from blender files to .pofs?
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 17, 2008, 12:51:16 pm
that's what I'm hearing. But last time I checked, I couldn't find it. Maybe i ought to look at it again...
Title: Re: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on July 17, 2008, 07:55:06 pm
With the export script you save a COB straight out of Blender that can be opened up by PCS2 and saved as a POF. You can't directly save nor open a POF in Blender.
Title: Re: New Shivan ship models?
Post by: varsaigen on July 18, 2008, 12:12:38 pm
that doesn't make much sense to me. I'm not good with the scripts. D: