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Title: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Metallix on July 30, 2008, 02:03:07 pm: Hi !

I post here because i've got a problem with the FS2 ships (all the ships !). Indeed, when i want to make a rotation, they are strangely heavy, with a maneuvrability worst than a bomber ! It's weird because i made a lot of different installation of FS2 (with and without SCP) and the problem still exist with all those installation ! I made a installation on my brothers'computer, and there is the same problem...Maybe i'm just crazy, but, with the Homesick mod, there is any problem, the ships got a good maneuvrability, but just in homesick......weird, right ??? For information, to make a complete rotation, it takes me 6/8 seconds, whereas, in Homesick, it takes 2/4 seconds. I changed the rotation time in the table, but I should make it for all the ships.....too long :D. And to finish, i noticed that, with this problem, there is not a ship heavyer than an other : a Hercules is as heavy as a Myrmidon, for exemple....I don't understand anything, the only things i know, it's that the problem begun when I installed Freespace Port, the mod for playing the FS1 campaign !! Maybe there still a file in my computer...but, whatever the installation way i choose (the freespace DVD, my own CD's, the FSOpen Installer), the problem is still here, and i'm really sick of this thing !! I hope you will be able to help me !!

Thanks !!

(PS : my english sucks, i'm french, and it's hard to explain my problem with details in your language, sorry ! :D)
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 30, 2008, 02:09:27 pm: Run fs2_open_3_6_10---_debug.exe. When it crashes or when you get to the Main Hall, quit. Find fs2_open.log in \freespace2\data\. Post it here either as an attachment (click Additional Options when posting) or using the "code" tags.
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Metallix on July 30, 2008, 02:34:54 pm: Okay ! I did, and it crashed :D . Here is the result :

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========================================================================== DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved. ========================================================================== FreeSpace version: 3.6.10 Passed cmdline options: -mod Sync Building file index... Found root pack 'F:\fs2\Sync\Sync.vp' with a checksum of 0x82cfb2f5 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c Found root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d Searching root 'F:\fs2\Sync\' ... 7 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\Sync\Sync.vp' ... 47 files Searching root 'F:\fs2\' ... 47 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files Found 15 roots and 7523 files. AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful... Setting language to English Initializing OpenAL... Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device... OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc. OpenAL Renderer : Software OpenAL Version : 1.1 ... OpenAL successfully initialized! GR_CPU: Family 15, MMX=Yes Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1280x1024 with 16-bit color... Initializing WGL... Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1 Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, double-buffer: 1 OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL Version : 2.1.2 Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord". Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine". Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array". Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap". Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle". Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias". Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite". Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT". Max texture units: 4 Max elements vertices: 1048576 Max elements indices: 1048576 Max texture size: 8192x8192 Can use compressed textures: YES Texture compression available: YES Using trilinear texture filter. ... OpenGL init is complete! Size of bitmap info = 705 KB Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors... SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence... SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization... LUA: Opening LUA state... LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries... LUA: Beginning ADE initialization ADE: Initializing enumeration constants... ADE: Assigning Lua session... SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence.... Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5. SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete. SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run Using high memory settings... Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)! WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5. ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5. WARNING: "Use of 'ballistic primaries' flag for ship 'GTF Ulysses' - this flag is no longer needed." at Ship.cpp:4041
I also post the screen shot of the error message :

(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6828/erroryn1.jpg)

Thanks for helping and responding that fast !:D
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Jeff Vader on July 30, 2008, 02:43:13 pm: Hmm.

1. "code". Not "quote". Don't worry. I'll fix it.
2. You seem to be using Sync as a mod at this moment. K.
3. 16-bit colours are evil. Switch to 32-bit. Now. It most certainly is not related to the issue but nevertheless.

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"Use of 'ballistic primaries' flag for ship 'GTF Ulysses' - this flag is no longer needed."
Why does it say that, when the only command-line option in use is -mod sync? I'm puzzled. Anyone? :nervous:
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Metallix on July 30, 2008, 03:10:58 pm: Sorry for the quote , i didn't pay attention ^^' !!

I tried to run fs2open_3_6_10_debug.exe without the sync mod, and it doesn't crash.

Here is the log :

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========================================================================== DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved. ========================================================================== FreeSpace version: 3.6.10 Passed cmdline options: -mod mediavps Building file index... Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0x55caf318 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xe22bdcc2 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x20b9069a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0xfeb54970 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_core.vp' with a checksum of 0xb6cb1f6a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0x1986a43c Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x2f8a711a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_music.vp' with a checksum of 0xcca92482 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp' with a checksum of 0x2c43a80e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c Found root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d Searching root 'F:\fs2\mediavps\' ... 7 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp' ... 2063 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp' ... 91 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_models.vp' ... 31 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_adveffects.vp' ... 299 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_core.vp' ... 88 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp' ... 580 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_models.vp' ... 399 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_music.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp' ... 1526 files Searching root 'F:\fs2\' ... 47 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files Found 23 roots and 12568 files. AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful... Setting language to English Initializing OpenAL... Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device... OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc. OpenAL Renderer : Software OpenAL Version : 1.1 ... OpenAL successfully initialized! GR_CPU: Family 15, MMX=Yes Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1280x1024 with 16-bit color... Initializing WGL... Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1 Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, double-buffer: 1 OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL Version : 2.1.2 Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord". Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine". Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array". Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap". Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle". Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias". Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite". Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT". Max texture units: 4 Max elements vertices: 1048576 Max elements indices: 1048576 Max texture size: 8192x8192 Can use compressed textures: YES Texture compression available: YES Using trilinear texture filter. ... OpenGL init is complete! Size of bitmap info = 705 KB Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors... SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence... SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization... LUA: Opening LUA state... LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries... LUA: Beginning ADE initialization ADE: Initializing enumeration constants... ADE: Assigning Lua session... SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence.... Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5. SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete. SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run Using high memory settings... Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)! WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ... ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ... Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ... BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps. ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_flak-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_missiles-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_textures-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_turretangle-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-shp.tbm' ... loading animated cursor "cursor" ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Ships.tbl is : VALID Weapons.tbl is : VALID cfile_init() took 906 Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0) ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37) Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file '47thredshirts.pcx' Wokka! Error opening file (Sync.fc2)! Error parsing 'Sync.fc2' Error code = 5. ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted) ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted) ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted) ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted) ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted) ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted) Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.614 (0.614) Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.321 (0.321) Got event GS_EVENT_CAMPAIGN_ROOM (54) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) Wokka! Error opening file (Sync.fc2)! Error parsing 'Sync.fc2' Error code = 5. Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_CAMPAIGN_ROOM (42) ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted) ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted) ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted) ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted) ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted) ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_QUIT_GAME (5) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) Freeing all existing models... ... Log closed, Wed Jul 30 22:05:08 2008

Oops ! In fact there is a crash when I want to start/continue a campaign. I post the log again :rolleyes: :

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========================================================================== DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved. ========================================================================== FreeSpace version: 3.6.10 Passed cmdline options: -mod mediavps Building file index... Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0x55caf318 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xe22bdcc2 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x20b9069a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_adveffects.vp' with a checksum of 0xfeb54970 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_core.vp' with a checksum of 0xb6cb1f6a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp' with a checksum of 0x1986a43c Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_models.vp' with a checksum of 0x2f8a711a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_music.vp' with a checksum of 0xcca92482 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp' with a checksum of 0x2c43a80e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' with a checksum of 0x84396e99 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c Found root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71 Found root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d Searching root 'F:\fs2\mediavps\' ... 7 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_adveffects.vp' ... 2063 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_effects.vp' ... 91 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mp-710_models.vp' ... 31 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_adveffects.vp' ... 299 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_core.vp' ... 88 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_effects.vp' ... 580 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_models.vp' ... 399 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_music.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\mediavps\mv_textures.vp' ... 1526 files Searching root 'F:\fs2\' ... 47 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files Searching root pack 'F:\fs2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files Found 23 roots and 12568 files. AutoLang: Language auto-detection successful... Setting language to English Initializing OpenAL... Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device... OpenAL Vendor : Creative Labs Inc. OpenAL Renderer : Software OpenAL Version : 1.1 ... OpenAL successfully initialized! GR_CPU: Family 15, MMX=Yes Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1280x1024 with 16-bit color... Initializing WGL... Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1 Actual WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 24, double-buffer: 1 OpenGL Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL Renderer : GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! OpenGL Version : 2.1.2 Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord". Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine". Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array". Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two". Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object". Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap". Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle". Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra". Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map". Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias". Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite". Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT". Max texture units: 4 Max elements vertices: 1048576 Max elements indices: 1048576 Max texture size: 8192x8192 Can use compressed textures: YES Texture compression available: YES Using trilinear texture filter. ... OpenGL init is complete! Size of bitmap info = 705 KB Size of bitmap extra info = 40 bytes ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors... SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence... SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization... LUA: Opening LUA state... LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries... LUA: Beginning ADE initialization ADE: Initializing enumeration constants... ADE: Assigning Lua session... SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence.... Wokka! Error opening file (scripting.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'! Error code = 5. SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete. SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run Using high memory settings... Wokka! Error opening file (interface.tbl)! WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ... ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted) Windoze reported 16 joysticks, we found 0 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ... Wokka! Error opening file (armor.tbl)! TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'! Error code = 5. TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ... BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 64 frames at 35 fps. ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted) TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_flak-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_missiles-wep.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_textures-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_models-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_trails-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_dragon-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_turretangle-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_tech-shp.tbm' ... TBM => Starting parse of 'mv_shockwave-shp.tbm' ... loading animated cursor "cursor" ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Ships.tbl is : VALID Weapons.tbl is : VALID cfile_init() took 666 Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0) ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted) Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37) Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file '47thredshirts.pcx' ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted) ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted) ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted) ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted) ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted) ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted) ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted) ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted) Frame 0 too long!!: frametime = 0.274 (0.274) Got event GS_EVENT_NEW_CAMPAIGN (26) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) Got event GS_EVENT_START_GAME (1) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1) =================== STARTING LEVEL LOAD ================== ANI 2_Loading.ani with size 824x43 (32.8% wasted) Starting model page in... Beginning level bitmap paging... BMPMAN: Found EFF (particlesmoke01.eff) with 52 frames at 28 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (particlesmoke02.eff) with 61 frames at 24 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (WarpMap01.eff) with 30 frames at 25 fps. BMPMAN: Found EFF (WarpMap02.eff) with 30 frames at 25 fps. Loading warp model Loading model 'warp.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'warp.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 4252971066, IBX checksum: 1418599850 -- "warp.pof" Model warp.pof has a null moment of inertia! (This is only a problem if the model is a ship.) 128 BMPMAN: Found EFF (shieldhit01a.eff) with 23 frames at 21 fps. SHOCKWAVE => Loading default shockwave model... Loading model 'shockwave.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'shockwave.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3823586065, IBX checksum: 4043718586 -- "shockwave.pof" Model shockwave.pof has a null moment of inertia! (This is only a problem if the model is a ship.) SHOCKWAVE => Default model load: SUCCEEDED!! MISSION LOAD: 'Training-1.fs2' Hmmm... Extension passed to mission_load... Starting mission message count : 205 Ending mission message count : 242 Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_set_soundtrack Loading model 'fighter2t-05.pof' IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter2t-05.pof'. IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 3069302688, IBX checksum: 4003170198 -- "fighter2t-05.pof" Model fighter2t-05.pof has a null moment of inertia! (This is only a problem if the model is a ship.) WARNING: "GTF Myrmidon (fighter2t-05.pof) has a null moment of inertia!" at Ship.cpp:5624 Freeing all existing models...
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on July 30, 2008, 03:21:45 pm: Well it is just a debug warning not an actual crash. Sync contains a mod.ini but it's not even in there. There are modified tables so it may be from one of the weapons in those.
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Metallix on July 30, 2008, 03:34:21 pm: Oh, I'm not sure I understood correctly your anwser :D : You mean that weapons information in one of the tables may be the origin of the problem ??? And so, what can i do to fix it ?
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on July 30, 2008, 04:02:26 pm: Sorry was answering Lobo's question about the error. Still no idea what's causing your problem.

Again the second log file you posted is just a warning message not a real crash. You can bypass those by adding the -no_warn flag to custom flags in the launcher.
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Topgun on July 30, 2008, 04:06:07 pm: Quote from: Lobo on July 30, 2008, 02:43:13 pm
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"Use of 'ballistic primaries' flag for ship 'GTF Ulysses' - this flag is no longer needed."
Why does it say that, when the only command-line option in use is -mod sync? I'm puzzled. Anyone? :nervous:
ballistic primaries is a ship flag in the tables. and I guess it's no longer needed.
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 30, 2008, 09:34:20 pm: Is there anything in \data\tables? Also, since you were experiencing this problem with Sync, it could be an obsolete table or something.
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Metallix on July 31, 2008, 09:36:06 am: Actually, i haven't got any table folder in the data folder ^^' !
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Topgun on July 31, 2008, 09:37:39 am: that's ok. do you have one in the sync/data/tables?
Title: Re: Strange problem with ships : they're too much heavy
Post by: Herra Tohtori on July 31, 2008, 09:45:21 am: The Myrmidon just has incredibly slow roll rate, so I would guess it's a feature, not a bug. Try and see if your joystick reports full range of axis motion on Windows, and compare the input in-game to what kind of motion the roll left/right keys cause. Also try different ships, Perseus should have a decent roll rate.