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Title: Energy distribution systems
Post by: MR_T3D on August 07, 2008, 09:43:52 am
so yesterday i am fooling around in XvT, and then i realise "how iis the enegry distribution going to work?" (yeah, i think in poor spelling)

in XvT, when i standard levels of energy merely maintain a charge for guns and sheilds, and increaseing the rates merely allow minor to adaquate recharge rates, anything below means you lose charge either quickly or slowly

HOWEVER in FS2, minimum levels means no recharge, and everything abov it is recharge rate.
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It seems to me that XvT's system works for sheilds, while FS2 works for guns.

How is FoTG going to work this?
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: chief1983 on August 07, 2008, 09:57:20 am
It will be different than FS2 or XvT.
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: aRaven on August 07, 2008, 10:11:48 am
It doesn't make sense for me that you would lose stored energy in the Xwing series, if you don't allocate energy to laser/shields...i like the fs2 system much better
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: MR_T3D on August 07, 2008, 10:14:20 am
with sheilds it make sense to lose charge if you direct power away from it, (minimum should be completely off, losing sheilds, but boosting engine output)
but not for guns, simply because the energy is stored in capacitors, and they do not lose charge unless used.
Y-Wing FTW!
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: chief1983 on August 07, 2008, 11:40:49 am
Haven't you ever heard of leakage current?  Capacitors do not store power indefinitely.  Now, these could be some strange futuristic battery-like capacitors, but a traditional capacitor has a drop-off time.  Plus, I think the point is that you're also taking energy from those capacitors to boost other systems.  Wouldn't you want that ability if it helped in a dogfight?
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: MR_T3D on August 07, 2008, 07:40:41 pm
i would think that that is the purpose of shunting power.
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: aRaven on August 07, 2008, 11:17:54 pm
Well the only problem I had with the XWing series is that the ships moved so damn slow (for playability). Diverting power from the engines made the ships even slower. I hate it when it does that. But SWC is here to fix that issue :)
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: TomShak on August 08, 2008, 01:58:53 pm
Personally the thing I found most wacky about power distribution in the X-Wing series was overflow (or lack there of). Often you'd set your guns to charge and then you'd get into a big battle. Unfortunately you'd often end up not noticing that your gun buffer was full and so the power would be wasted.

Now if I were a rebel pilot I'd go to my mechanic and say "Hey Ruchanga, could you fit me a little circuit that will redirect overflowing power from the gun buffers into the shield buffers, and vice versa". After all, if you were paying attention you could manually change the recharge rate when the buffer was full, and put it back again when it stopped being full. If they can make droids that talk then surely a little automatic switch wouldn't be too hard :)

The other thing that was a bit silly was that in some ships the guns charge quicker than the shields (or vice versa) so you could put the guns of charge max, the shields on drain max and end up with a net power gain (sometimes a very big one). This doesn't really make a lot of sense since both systems must draw power from the same onboard generator ...

No doubt FotG won't have a power system with so many quirks :)

Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: chief1983 on August 08, 2008, 02:12:45 pm
I wouldn't be so certain.  Quirks add character.
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: MR_T3D on August 08, 2008, 07:18:12 pm
yeah, if i drop my y-wing's  sheilds, she can keep up with TIE's, and when i am under fire, a quick shunt from guns to sheilds does the trick
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: Turey on August 21, 2008, 01:54:29 pm
Personally the thing I found most wacky about power distribution in the X-Wing series was overflow (or lack there of). Often you'd set your guns to charge and then you'd get into a big battle. Unfortunately you'd often end up not noticing that your gun buffer was full and so the power would be wasted.

Now if I were a rebel pilot I'd go to my mechanic and say "Hey Ruchanga, could you fit me a little circuit that will redirect overflowing power from the gun buffers into the shield buffers, and vice versa". After all, if you were paying attention you could manually change the recharge rate when the buffer was full, and put it back again when it stopped being full. If they can make droids that talk then surely a little automatic switch wouldn't be too hard :)

I love this idea, and I'm definitely coding it up when I find some free time, even if FotG doesn't want it.

Of course, FSO might already do this. I've never looked at the energy system code.
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: chief1983 on August 21, 2008, 03:49:53 pm
No that totally makes sense, you should just be prioritizing what charges first, not the only things that are charging.
Title: Re: Energy distribution systems
Post by: Kyle_K_ski on October 25, 2008, 05:45:29 pm
I really like the "circuit automatically redirects overflow power to system x" idea.  It makes a ton of sense, especially when one's maximally stressed in a combat environment. 

Setting up a system for maximum recharge would then only place it in top priority for charging its systems, with other system's being prioritized accordingly. 

Brilliantly simple and elegant solution to a headache inducing situation.