It's never really made clear in the campaign.
I do remeber that the NTF destroyed 80% of a system's forces with casualties of 80,000, but I don't know if that was a full fleet or not.
36 hours ago, the NTF launched a full-scale offensive in Epsilon Pegasi, taking the GTVA 6th Fleet by surprise. Commanding his forces from the NTD Repulse, Rear Admiral Koth leads the rebel advance. With 75 percent of our forces in this system decimated, the regional death toll since the incursion now exceeds 80,000.
Try counting the number of ships escorting the Colossus in the intro cutscene and Colossus cutscene. ;7
I reckon a destroyer, two to three corvettes, three to four cruisers and perhaps five to ten squadrons. The Aquitaine had about four or five squadrons, according to Their Finest Hour's briefing.
The Orion can hold up to 10 000 officers and crew (who are willing to die for Neo-Terra). A corvette should be able to hold 4000 to 6000. Cruisers...I don't know, 500? :nervous:
AWACS, freighters, transports and gas miners should hold about five to ten people. Medical frigates should be capable of about 1500.
...and of course, the Colossus has space for 30 000.
I think Vasudan large ships should be operated by more Vasudans, since their interiors are like...whoa. :jaw:
I reckon a destroyer, two to three corvettes, three to four cruisers and perhaps five to ten squadrons. The Aquitaine had about four or five squadrons, according to Their Finest Hour's briefing.I'd say there'd be a lot more than that per fleet, or the NTF would have the equivalent of 10 fleets (possibly more in terms of corvettes and cruisers). Personally I tend to think there'd be about 3-4 destroyers per fleet, with maybe ten corvettes and a lot of cruisers.
I reckon a destroyer, two to three corvettes, three to four cruisers and perhaps five to ten squadrons. The Aquitaine had about four or five squadrons, according to Their Finest Hour's briefing.I'd say there'd be a lot more than that per fleet, or the NTF would have the equivalent of 10 fleets (possibly more in terms of corvettes and cruisers). Personally I tend to think there'd be about 3-4 destroyers per fleet, with maybe ten corvettes and a lot of cruisers.
Well the Psamtik and Memphis are part of it, IIRC.No, the Psamtik's with the 13th Vasudan Battlegroup.
I'm not sure myself, because FS2 states that the Aquitaine is the leader of the 3rd Fleet, which might imply that it's the only destroyer in the fleet, or that there are other destroyers, only that they do not lead, or are all Orions.I tend to think that the Aquitaine just leads, it's not like it's the only destroyer/Hecate-class ship in the fleet.
Thing, either 100000 per fleet, or 1000000 is kara is right. That makes 3 destroyers, 10 corvettes, and 20 cruisers.
I think Vasudan large ships should be operated by more Vasudans, since their interiors are like...whoa.
I'd go with the 4-destroyer estimate. In fringe fleets, I'd have to say a max of 2 destroyers. On the other hand, my opinion is that the NTF's fleets would be more destroyer-focused than the GTVA's fleets, as they would be able to appeal to the generation running the fleets and likely to some of the officers controlling the fleets. A few coups, killing or otherwise expelling anti-NTF officers, would result in many men and many large ships, but a lack of experienced officers. Promotions of enlisted and the officers (bring them up a few steps) would probably result in a bit higher morale and more reason to join the NTF, versus staying at a low rank and salary with the GTVA. No doubt, the call to join the NTF was strong (evidence is the systems that revolted and the entire fleets that revolted), so I'd say many of the GTVA's own ships would also revolt. And, it's not like you need that many people to take over a ship. Eliminate your strongest competition and appeal to the rest. If nothing else, you can kill experienced officers and kill morale. Plus, it's hard to sacrifice 8,000 of your own people to stop 2,000 that sympathize. It's unlikely that the GTVA would destroy its own ships, and destroyers are difficult ships to destroy. By extension, it's likely that the Colossus was staffed primarily Vasudans, for risk of NTF revolt.I think Vasudan large ships should be operated by more Vasudans, since their interiors are like...whoa.
The Vasudan interior is quite frankly pretty stupid in my opinion. One ship at a time is brought up on a thruster controlled platform to launch? How realistic is that???
The Vasudan interior is quite frankly pretty stupid in my opinion. One ship at a time is brought up on a thruster controlled platform to launch? How realistic is that???
The Vasudan interior is quite frankly pretty stupid in my opinion. One ship at a time is brought up on a thruster controlled platform to launch? How realistic is that???
Very, from a damage-control perspective. It minimizes the ship's vunerablities launching and recovering fighters. Not so much from a rapid launch perspective, but FS destroyers don't seem to understand the concept of launching more than a few wings anyways.
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.There was the GTD Delacroix, you remember?
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.
I tend to take the opposite point of view. You'd want an admiral in the nebula because it's a completely unknown sphere of operations and you're very likely to be sending other ships in after the Aquitane as soon as you can shake them loose from other duties. You'd want an officer on site to deal with the situation as it developed.
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.
I tend to take the opposite point of view. You'd want an admiral in the nebula because it's a completely unknown sphere of operations and you're very likely to be sending other ships in after the Aquitane as soon as you can shake them loose from other duties. You'd want an officer on site to deal with the situation as it developed.
hmm and based on my stint as a navy cadet, the flagship was traditionally the lead ship anyway so sending in the Aquitane would be traditionally correct, and btw the Flagship is the Ship from which the Admiral of Fleet is present and flying the Admiral's flag, and was named so because that ship would be flying the Admiral's Flag, hence Flagship, and as such the title of Flagship could not be handed or carried over to any other ship unless Petrarch is aboard
Seems a bit odd to send the Aquitaine to frolic about in the nebula alone if Admiral Petrarch was responsible for 3 other destroyers back in Gamma Draconis or Capella.
I tend to take the opposite point of view. You'd want an admiral in the nebula because it's a completely unknown sphere of operations and you're very likely to be sending other ships in after the Aquitane as soon as you can shake them loose from other duties. You'd want an officer on site to deal with the situation as it developed.
hmm and based on my stint as a navy cadet, the flagship was traditionally the lead ship anyway so sending in the Aquitane would be traditionally correct, and btw the Flagship is the Ship from which the Admiral of Fleet is present and flying the Admiral's flag, and was named so because that ship would be flying the Admiral's Flag, hence Flagship, and as such the title of Flagship could not be handed or carried over to any other ship unless Petrarch is aboard
I'm pretty sure that GTVA Terrans would be glad if Sol took the head position of GTVA's terrans.I doubt that, I'd trust Barack Obama more than David Cameron if I was American, and I'd trust David Cameron more than Barack Obama if I was a Brit (of course, Brits understand the USA more than the USA understands Brits :P).
After the Great War, the GTA collapsed and divided into system states/blocks. Thus the GTVA doesn't have a terran government. Only the mixed security council and the Vasudan Imperium.The GTVA was an excellent government. The Vasudan Imperium, IMO, does not represent all of the Vasudans, only the Vasudan royalty (ie. Khonsu II, since he was one of the most important dudes during the formation of the GTVA). So, IMO, the Vasudans aren't completely represented in the GTVA either, they have to rely on either the Emperor to do what they want or the General Assembly to do what they want. Of course, this would be better if the Emperor was just a guy in the General Assembly, but it seems the Chief Thundercloud doesn't like being on the same level as his advisors.
Vasudans would probably be against the terrans to reunite with Sol and have their government as strong as the Vasudan one. If not stronger.The Terrans watched the Vasudans miraculously rebuild while they struggled during the early Post-Great War Reconstruction era. Unless the Terrans are a second-rate population or something, I doubt the Vasudan majority would be so unfair to say that the Terrans are not allowed to return to Sol. Additionally, it is described in the Earth entry that returning to Sol remains a "high priority". If the Vasudans didn't like this, then it wouldn't be a "high priority", it would be like a "disputed goal" or something like that. So no, I don't think the Vasudans would have a problem with the Terrans reuniting with Sol. They trust that Sol will be integrated into the GTVA, not the GTVA integrated into Sol. And given that I don't think that the Vasudans are that politically powerful anyway, I doubt there would be too much problem anyway.
Though Sol's government would be illegal to the GTVA, acording to BETAC.Remember, the peace has only been maintained since 2358: Only 9 years of centralized BETAC power, which means these rules could easily be waved if need be (to avoid war at all costs).
While his experience does seem a considerable asset, the rate of communication between systems and the ability of the GTVA to field experts on any given tactical or strategic subject from anywhere else in the GTVA makes it seem a bit silly to risk someone whose inherent position forces them to maintain ties and concentration on a certain field of space apart from the area that they would be most at risk in. That seems like a difficult position to put Petrarch in, since a Shivan attack force could disrupt a planning session with regards to the NTF, whereas it would otherwise be a note on the daily report from the Aquitaine.
Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.
Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.
Because captain is a rank? Traditionally yes, captain was captain of a ship. However it's a military rank, one that's not just used in naval forces.Traditionally, anyone of rank captain other than the actual captain was temporarily promoted to the rank of major for the voyage, so that there would be only one captain on board the ship.
Hey, I know one Admiral who doesn't command a destroyer. In fact, I know an Admiral that flies fighters around. Alpha "Cheater" 1.
I'm sure i've made it before, but can't remember on how many playthroughs.
*would check the wiki but doesn't care enough to*
*newspapers AE's nose* no...on your rug.
I'm sure i've made it before, but can't remember on how many playthroughs.I think that may have been on SquadWar.
*would check the wiki but doesn't care enough to*
Nope on Squadwar, i was ONE freakin ullysses kill away from making Commander when PXO died.....
And remember that we're talking about gigantic militarizes... millions strong operating hundreds of gigantic ships.
10,000 people per destroyer, several destroyers per fleet, 12 or so terran fleets, 12 or so vasudan battlegroups, the Big C, all the corvettes, all the cruisers, all the transports, all the military installations, and then adding to that the support personal on planets and everywhere else. Also remember the scaling factor... ships in space are much larger than our own ships in the water. Also don't forget other branches such as GTVI, which would add a few percent (maybe) of the GTVA's personal.And remember that we're talking about gigantic militarizes... millions strong operating hundreds of gigantic ships.
And you base that on what? Other than opinion that is.
Who captained the Colossus?I think this is a very good question. Who captained that monster?
Who captained the Colossus?I think this is a very good question. Who captained that monster?
Some bald headed guy.Head-CM1 ain't bald.
But it is Admiral Petrach, not Midshipman Petrach, leader of the Vega fleet! Maybe each fleet only has one Admiral. But perhaps all the other destroyers are Rear or Vice Admirals??
[V] forgot to leave behind a detailed GTVA command structure.Or just didn't want to/couldn't be bothered.
Most people just assume something similar to modern day wet navies.
Well, that, and it's 300+ years in the future.
Well, that, and it's 300+ years in the future.
300 years ago they were using the same ranks. Were they not?
300 years ago they were using the same ranks. Were they not?
300 years ago they were using the same ranks. Were they not?
Open to debate, but the Royal Navy had a rank structure fairly similar in place for higher ranks. Junior officer ranks have evolved a good deal over the last 300 years, but on the other hand, it could be argued that they were more "formalized" then "evolved."