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Title: A challenge!
Post by: General Battuta on August 13, 2008, 02:33:11 am
I'm playing through the FS2 main campaign on Hard and trying to see how many capital ships I can earn kills for.

So far I've managed to nab quite a few (like the Hawkwood) that are finished off by friendly beam fire, simply by putting a few missiles into them.

I'm stuck on the Repulse. Can't manage to avoid the Colossus getting the kill, due to its plethora of blob turrets.

Anyone else tried this?
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Snail on August 13, 2008, 03:59:02 am
Arm the Akheton SDG and kill the Colossus' turrets?
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 13, 2008, 04:04:57 am
Arm the Akheton SDG and kill the Colossus' turrets?

:wtf:

Maybe you could park yourself behind the Repulse and open fire.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: eliex on August 13, 2008, 04:54:44 am
Maybe it might work, but unless the Rampart destroys the NTF cruisers, you will be too busy avoiding fighter-beams plus NTF Lokis to have easy fire on the Repulse on Hard difficulty.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Rodo on August 13, 2008, 09:36:38 am
on hard, you got the ravana? and the sathanas?? damn! how about the belasarius?... It's almost impossible to stay alive in some missions man! (or maybe It's me and my sucking flying)

why dont you try to make a new mission where you are supposed to kill lots of capital as fast as you can and then you make a contest out of it ^^

Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Snail on August 13, 2008, 09:40:54 am
The Belisarius is probably the easiest, pop three or for Rockeyes into it at long range and you get the kill (because beam weapons are counted as a separate damage type to normal weapons and turrets, for some reason)
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: karajorma on August 13, 2008, 10:22:12 am
Adds "$include beams for kills and assists" to Battuta's ai_profile to spoil his fun. :p
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: General Battuta on August 13, 2008, 12:18:17 pm
Grargh!

Maybe it might work, but unless the Rampart destroys the NTF cruisers, you will be too busy avoiding fighter-beams plus NTF Lokis to have easy fire on the Repulse on Hard difficulty.

Actually, no -- both cruisers usually get taken out, and even if they aren't, I can end-run around them to reach the Repulse. Then I do park myself behind the Repulse and open fire, using Hornets and a Subach/Prometheus R combo. The problem is that the Colossus can do more damage in the same span of time using its forward blobs.

I could try disarming those...it's worth a shot. But I kind of want to move on. (I even disarmed the Rampart's fusion mortar, because it kept taking the kill.)

And yes, I did manage to get the Ravana, but, y'know, I might've forgotten the Belisarius. Next time!
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Snail on August 13, 2008, 12:28:00 pm
The Belisarius is easy to get.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Rodo on August 13, 2008, 01:11:18 pm
Damn people, you are talking about cap ships... how do you do to take down an Orion with just hornets and prometheus???
that's not credible...

got the shivan cruisers coming through the Knosos in the first mission when the shivans appear in Gamma Draconis?


Also belisarius??? come on!! with just some rockets you'll not even scratch it!
well i've never tryed but seems improbable..
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Droid803 on August 13, 2008, 01:23:39 pm
We're talking about getting the kill.
Which means doing 60% of the non-beam damage.

Not too hard since some ships get chopped up by beams very nicely.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: General Battuta on August 13, 2008, 01:24:40 pm
Yeah. If it's a ship that's going to be taken out by beams, all you have to do is deal the majority of the non-beam damage.

Kind of minigame. I'm sure the capital ship gunnery crews are frustrated.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Rodo on August 13, 2008, 01:58:46 pm
ohh oh... beam fire does not count.. so it would not be hard then I guess
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: General Battuta on August 13, 2008, 03:24:01 pm
I didn't get the Tiamat. I hate that mission.

But I did get the Order of Galatea, after about nineteen tries. Used EMPs and Stilettos hold off the bombers and destroy the Tiamat's beams, respectively. It's really hard to get close to a Moloch w/fighter escort on Hard.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Admiral_Stones on August 13, 2008, 04:00:30 pm
Grargh!

Maybe it might work, but unless the Rampart destroys the NTF cruisers, you will be too busy avoiding fighter-beams plus NTF Lokis to have easy fire on the Repulse on Hard difficulty.

Actually, no -- both cruisers usually get taken out, and even if they aren't, I can end-run around them to reach the Repulse. Then I do park myself behind the Repulse and open fire, using Hornets and a Subach/Prometheus R combo. The problem is that the Colossus can do more damage in the same span of time using its forward blobs.

I could try disarming those...it's worth a shot. But I kind of want to move on. (I even disarmed the Rampart's fusion mortar, because it kept taking the kill.)

And yes, I did manage to get the Ravana, but, y'know, I might've forgotten the Belisarius. Next time!

Nevar. Use. The. Prometheus R.

Unless of course you can prove me it is of any use... :nervous:
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Jeff Vader on August 13, 2008, 04:03:28 pm
Nevar. Use. The. Prometheus R.

Unless of course you can prove me it is of any use... :nervous:
Well, if nothing else, at least it gives some more challenge.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 14, 2008, 12:48:41 am
Getting the Belisarius is easy enough. There was one time I flew up and shot it several times before flying away. When the Psamtik fired its BVas, Alpha 2 went, "Objective neutralised!" :lol:
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 14, 2008, 02:46:09 am
Once I made a mission for points to get to admiral. It didn't work, didn't get the admiral. So I went to play EaW. The next day I decided to replay the FS2 campaign using the beta mediaVPs. I emptied my tempests into the Belisarius. At debriefing, I got told "to go read a book".
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Snail on August 14, 2008, 03:15:05 am
Once I made a mission for points to get to admiral. It didn't work, didn't get the admiral. So I went to play EaW. The next day I decided to replay the FS2 campaign using the beta mediaVPs. I emptied my tempests into the Belisarius. At debriefing, I got told "to go read a book".
Wait, wouldn't you have been promoted to like Vice Admiral or Rear Admiral before getting to Admiral just by killing the Belisarius, or does it go straight to Admiral.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 14, 2008, 03:30:58 am
I think it goes straight. If it went through all the ranks, the medal sidebar would be messed up.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Snail on August 14, 2008, 03:41:40 am
No, I've actually reached the rank of Commodore (in FS1), and it doesn't. It goes all the way to the 4th space, then goes back to the first, but it's got a different color. If I still had FS1 installed I'd give you a screenshot.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Stormkeeper on August 14, 2008, 05:26:27 am
Iirc, it went straight, cause i was already at the rank before it.
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: karajorma on August 15, 2008, 03:15:35 pm
Which means doing 60% of the non-beam damage.

30%
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: Droid803 on August 15, 2008, 03:42:31 pm
Oh. only 30%? Even easier then!
Title: Re: A challenge!
Post by: General Battuta on August 16, 2008, 12:21:54 am
I just finished the 64th Raptors chapter -- 'King's Gambit', 'Sicilian Defense', and 'Endgame.' Got kills for everything except one Deimos on 'Gambit', one Leviathan on 'Sicilian Defense', and the Danton on 'Endgame.'