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Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 05:24:27 am
As the title says, if I'm ever going to finish this damn thing I'll need someone to model it since I lack the skills or the time to complete the job myself. The model will be for Freespace2 (and thus the poly count must fit) and so on.

If anyone can help me - and I really hope they can - please tell me here. Many thanks :)

Edit: Here she is BTW, this is what I'd like to see created:

Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Setekh on February 27, 2002, 05:43:09 am
Lol, did my post in Poor Setekh Redux catch your attention? :D
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 05:45:17 am
Yes, I want a damn starship :nod:
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Setekh on February 27, 2002, 05:58:36 am
Hehehe ;)

Anyway, good luck with the Setekh Mk. 2... though I seriously think that Woomeister already did a Mk. 2 and a Mk. 3... (one of them is really fat, I remember...)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Kitsune on February 27, 2002, 05:59:16 am
hey thunder, not to complain but can you use thumnails instead of resized versions of your pics?  It sucks downing a 280k no-res image.
Here, use this instead, nice, tidy, 12k...
And looks mostly correct.
(http://www.furnation.com/corwyn/aquila-th.jpg)

As for the ship itself, If all you wanted was a ship for modeling and rends I coulda helped, but hierarchies are like foreign languages to me.  Study as much as I like, but it still doesn't come out right!
Not to mention, where do you want the turrets?  On those rivet-looking areas?
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 06:13:44 am
Thumbnails been altered :)

I haven't thought as far as subobject location or weapons since the main bulk of the ship hasn't been created. If someone makes up the basic frame of the ship then I can specify locations of turrets more easily (especially since it'll be to scale and I can render the 6 view instead of trying to put my terrible schematic drawing skills to the test ;))
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: wEvil on February 27, 2002, 06:15:05 am
Could do it for £20

Im a bit pushed for time (and cash)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 06:20:15 am
I'll consider that offer pending people doing it because they want to do modelling and not make money (it's not like I have £20 to throw at one model either! although I know you posess the skills to carry out the job).
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: wEvil on February 27, 2002, 06:27:44 am
i would do it for free but im £1249.50 in debt :(
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Alikchi on February 27, 2002, 07:46:20 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
Hehehe ;)

Anyway, good luck with the Setekh Mk. 2... though I seriously think that Woomeister already did a Mk. 2 and a Mk. 3... (one of them is really fat, I remember...)


Yeah, I think it was the Mk. 3 - it has an SVas, so you can bully cruisers around :D And maybe some anti-fighter defenses too (gasp)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Jabu on February 27, 2002, 09:06:17 am
Damn... that actually looks a lot like my old Trinity superdestroyer.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Woomeister on February 27, 2002, 09:59:44 am
Aquila (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/aquila.jpg)
I've had a go, it's not totally complete yet. It's just under 400 polys at the moment.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: aldo_14 on February 27, 2002, 10:32:11 am
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Originally posted by wEvil
i would do it for free but im £1249.50 in debt :(


I see your £1250, I raise you £6000.  (and yep, that's in 2nd year)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 10:34:20 am
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Aquila (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/aquila.jpg)
I've had a go, it's not totally complete yet. It's just under 400 polys at the moment.

Dude! Thankyou, I was worried nobody would have the time or will to do it - and without a modeller this should would never see the light of day (which I want it to as it'll play a part in several things I've got going).

Once again, thanks :nod:
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: KillMeNow on February 27, 2002, 01:15:29 pm
if someone had not already started i might have done it but i can only produce in lightwave format anyway so not to useful anyway
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Jabu on February 27, 2002, 01:19:28 pm
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Originally posted by KillMeNow
if someone had not already started i might have done it but i can only produce in lightwave format anyway so not to useful anyway


Make a high-poly version. You know, for renders and crap.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 01:23:19 pm
Of course! If somebody else wants to try their hand at it I'd be more than happy to see it, so long as credit is given to me for the design and I have priority on using the model as I see fit I welcome everyone to try making one (hell, a high poly version for rendering would rock - I could rip the Loose Cannon to shreads in detail :lol: )
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Zeronet on February 27, 2002, 01:26:39 pm
Dont forget the Hangers. They are important to the design and feel of the ship.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Unknown Target on February 27, 2002, 01:26:43 pm
I know I must be pretty sick, but that model looks like a giant dildo:D
But, otherwise it's pretty good;)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Jabu on February 27, 2002, 01:45:12 pm
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Originally posted by Unkown Target
I know I must be pretty sick, but that model looks like a giant dildo:D


"It looks like a dildo!"
"That's appropriate. Armed it can **** solar systems."
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 01:49:55 pm
Zeronet: It has two, launching towards the rear of the ship. You can't fly far inside them (in theory) but they're there :)

And yes, I know it resembles a phallic object - that wasn't the idea but I like the design :p
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Zeronet on February 27, 2002, 02:00:01 pm
I like its angular sections, its a more believable ship.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: KillMeNow on February 27, 2002, 02:21:55 pm
reminds me of the carrack crusier from starwars - and even abit like the dreadnaughts
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: KillMeNow on February 27, 2002, 02:26:35 pm
i will do a high poly one texturing probally wont be great but i will try and put enough detail in that it wont matter
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: untouchable on February 27, 2002, 03:27:03 pm
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Originally posted by Woomeister
Aquila (http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/aquila.jpg)
I've had a go, it's not totally complete yet. It's just under 400 polys at the moment.
Damn, beat me to it :D
Good work Woo :nod:
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 03:30:42 pm
Oh it was an image link! (damn hyperlink colors ;))

That looks great so far dude, nice job :nod:
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Woomeister on February 27, 2002, 03:33:55 pm
I'm going to test a clipping test version in FS2 in a few minutes. It's as accurate as I can get it without spending hours on it :)
I'll post a pic if it works (it's mapped badly at the moment so looks ugly :D ) I just need it mapped to test it.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: untouchable on February 27, 2002, 03:39:33 pm
Want me to do the mapping?
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 27, 2002, 03:39:52 pm
Cheers! I've worked out the weapon mounts (more or less) although there's about 90 of them, I don't know how that'll hit the polys. Also if you need any help with it just let me know (oh and for reference it's supposed to be able 5 or 6 K in the game).
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Woomeister on February 27, 2002, 04:01:44 pm
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/inferno/aquila2.jpg)
I'll send it to you now untouchable. You can do the lods as well if you want ;)
There was only 1 bit of clipping on the underneath that I could see, so its turned out not that bad. This version is 5.4km at 644 polys (because of the two 'array' things)
I suggest some smoothing when you map it :)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Martinus on February 27, 2002, 04:42:40 pm
Hmmm I might have a go at this if you don't mind Woo. It's a cool ship design :nod:
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Unknown Target on February 27, 2002, 05:26:40 pm
It would look better with some sort of protrusions coming from the side, because, I'm serious, it looks like a giant, grey schlong!:D

EDIT: How about some side-mounted rotating AWAC arrays?
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: LtNarol on February 27, 2002, 08:02:32 pm
my personal recomendation: scale down the turret number, because while they are separate subobjects, (meaning that they dont effect the poly count of the model themselves) that many turrets means an equal number of destroyed turrets, which added together, means that putting it in fs2 is very unlikely to work out.  Even if you could get it into the game, the lag would be terrible once you got a running fight going.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: mikhael on February 27, 2002, 08:55:20 pm
Just out of curiosity, Thunder, what's the role of this behemoth of yours? Aside from being a personal sportscar, I mean. Supercarrier? Juggernaught?

I wish I'd run across this thread when it started. It would have been interesting to throw it together. Maybe I will anyway. *heh*
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: LtNarol on February 27, 2002, 09:20:55 pm
isnt this ship a Juggernaught? over 4 km long
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Grey Wolf on February 27, 2002, 09:23:19 pm
It's far bigger than my sports car in freespace, the 2374 Ford Mustang Scyros:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/gtdwolf/pics/scyrosmustang.gif)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: mikhael on February 27, 2002, 10:05:36 pm
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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
It's far bigger than my sports car in freespace, the 2374 Ford Mustang Scyros:


The look of that is really nice, Grey Wolf, but it looks like two models laid on top of each other. Perhaps if you were to work on the conjunctions so that the parts looked like they flowed together, it would look better. Regardless, I'd fly one. :)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Grey Wolf on February 27, 2002, 10:13:52 pm
The normal one in SHaS doesn't have the mustang symbol and is called the GTF Scyros.
(Hmmm.... maybe I should include the Mustang skin as an extra bonus thing.....)
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: LtNarol on February 27, 2002, 11:43:00 pm
did you actually build that model or did you just lay one model on top of another?
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Fineus on February 28, 2002, 01:52:59 am
Nice model Grey Wolf 2009 :)

Woomeister - Excellent job on the ship, how closed to finish is it at this stage? There's a couple of things on the 3DS model I'd like to see altered in the final stage (mainly the hanger section but your the one modelling it :nod: )

LtNarol - I may well scale down the turret number - but first I'd like to see how many polys the completed model contains... I could probably reclaim a lot by removing one of the Arrays and moving the other into the centre.

And finally here's some info on the TD Aquila for you all...
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About:
   The TD Aquila (or Terran Destroyer Aquila) was designed by Thunder with the aid of many of the Freespace community. It was created with a mind to making a personal flagship for Thunder, and to present a model of the highest possible quality for use by all in missions and campaigns. Aesthetic value played a high part since Thunder plans to use it heavily in his renders.

   The TD Aquila is the first ship of its kind. Following the Capella nova and the second attempted Shivan invasion, the GTVA realised it had failed with the GTD Hecate class in it's capacity as both a carrier and a destroyer. Over-reliance on smaller ships mean't less space for automated systems and more manpower required - manpower that was sorely needed elsewhere in the Alliance.
   To address this problem the GTVA commissioned the SOC and the most intelligent development engineers available to create a new, mobile base. Smaller than a Colossus but capable of carrying a massive array of combat wings and heavy beam cannon, the TD Aquila is the result of this research.
   Measuring around 5 Kilometers and employing the very latest in fusion pile technology, coupled with the latest advances in weaponry,  armor, AWAC tech, shielding, automated systems and classified data gathered during the most recent Shivan incursion, the TD Aquila is the most formidable ship in the GTVA, capable of engaging any known warship and emerging victorious.
   In honor of Alex Avery, the most distinguished Destroyer commander alive following the Capella nova, the first ship to leave the production line - The Aquila - has been given to him to command. Going by the alias of "Thunder" amongst his peers, Captain Avery has served the GTVA for seven years and overcome obsticals that lesser commanders would have run from.


Note that the above was lifted straigth out of an old readme I wrote - so some of it may have altered slightly.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Woomeister on February 28, 2002, 04:20:04 am
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Originally posted by Thunder
Nice model Grey Wolf 2009 :)

Woomeister - Excellent job on the ship, how closed to finish is it at this stage? There's a couple of things on the 3DS model I'd like to see altered in the final stage (mainly the hanger section but your the one modelling it :nod: )

Untouchable can fix that before he maps it, it'll be faster that way :)
Send him any info on stuff you want fixing. It needs to be fixed up before its mapped.
Title: Wanted: Modeller for the TD Aquila
Post by: Setekh on February 28, 2002, 04:51:20 am
Nice one! :) :yes: