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Title: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 13, 2008, 05:39:08 am
I need a non-ugly superdestroyer/light-juggernaut ship.

Tried the Megaera, Olemus and Moscow. All ugly, except that the Moscow is badly UV mapped.

I don't really want to use the Odin, Orion MK2s or the Titan juggernaut, and the Raynor is used as a regular destroyer.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 13, 2008, 06:33:40 am
I need a non-ugly superdestroyer/light-juggernaut ship.

Tried the Megaera, Olemus and Moscow. All ugly, except that the Moscow is badly UV mapped.

I don't really want to use the Odin, Orion MK2s or the Titan juggernaut, and the Raynor is used as a regular destroyer.

         Hades? For which there are re-skins in several mods (158, Procryon)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: BengalTiger on September 13, 2008, 06:37:45 am
The GTD Sirona is a good ship for a superdestroyer, IIRC it's almost 3 clicks long, and by default has 7 beams, including TerSlash, BGreen, and I think it had custom made MGreens too.
It's somewhere on FreeSpaceMods.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: nvsblmnc on September 13, 2008, 06:55:09 am
I agree with the Sirona - it looks great when paired with the Reyena corvette and it has a good weapon layout.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 13, 2008, 07:09:33 am
The ship has to be for a Sol faction. And the Sirona is used elsewhere.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 13, 2008, 07:17:30 am
Well we could say that a second Hades was made my the Sol faction using some top-secret GTI blueprints housed in a secret bunker orbiting Neptune or something. Sol was really the center of R&D (there are many statements in FS1 that say this) so it's only logical that some people in Sol would have schematics for the Hades.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 13, 2008, 08:40:30 am
No, that sounds kinda weird and highly unlikely. The Hades is a post-great war GTI design. It was already unknown to the GTA, and constructed only after the great war, so that's why it is more than unlikely that Sol would have a Hades-like design.

I was thinking of using the Hera at first, but found it too difficult to properly remap, and that it looked too un-FS like...
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 13, 2008, 08:49:28 am
Uhh actually it was constructed during 2335, only 9 months at the most after the Great War. (Sol node collapsed in March 2335)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Hellstryker on September 13, 2008, 09:33:39 am
Still sounds wierd.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 13, 2008, 10:14:29 am
I need a non-ugly superdestroyer/light-juggernaut ship.

Tried the Megaera, Olemus and Moscow. All ugly, except that the Moscow is badly UV mapped.

I don't really want to use the Odin, Orion MK2s or the Titan juggernaut, and the Raynor is used as a regular destroyer.

I think you need a new model, right?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 13, 2008, 11:13:13 am
I think you need a new model, right?
Would you be willing to make one (of course, then it'd be a ShadowGorrath exclusive... Be kind to us ShadowGorrath... :nervous:)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Aardwolf on September 13, 2008, 02:46:28 pm
How about taking some fighter and scaling it up a bunch and giving it turrets?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Galemp on September 13, 2008, 03:47:23 pm
Yeah, like the Osiris! And then you can give it a single texture with a box UV map.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 13, 2008, 05:12:17 pm
Yea, it seems I need a new model.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 13, 2008, 05:15:20 pm
Yea, it seems I need a new model.

      What about the GTD Gaia from OTT: http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Gtdgaia.jpg (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Gtdgaia.jpg)

      3km long with a crapload of turrets.

      Here's another picture on a whitebackground if the shape isn't clear:



[attachment deleted by ninja]
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 13, 2008, 05:24:51 pm
You know that works pretty well as a Vasudan destroyer when reskinned, but the model isn't that great to start with anyway.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 13, 2008, 05:27:51 pm
Yea, it seems I need a new model.

Three questions in bad english:

1. Are you in a hurry?
2. Is it supposed to be older than Orion?
3. Do you need new textures, other than those allready in MVP? :)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 13, 2008, 05:53:00 pm
No rush,
Post-capella Sol,
using maps like in bp.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 13, 2008, 06:01:05 pm
I'm in.
How public do you want it to be from now on?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 13, 2008, 06:06:01 pm
Very.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 13, 2008, 06:07:10 pm
Very.

I love this guy  :)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Titan on September 13, 2008, 06:57:37 pm
show off your work, be proud and flambouyant. brag.

Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 13, 2008, 07:02:41 pm
show off your work, be proud and flambouyant. brag.



Too old for this  :pimp:
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 14, 2008, 03:57:49 am
You can show the model progress here, as long as I get the model for the mod.

If anyone's interested, I could announce this mod to the public sometime soon?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 14, 2008, 06:26:01 am
Very.
QFT.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Aardwolf on September 14, 2008, 06:43:27 am
If anyone's interested, I could announce this mod to the public sometime soon?

How could we be interested in it if you haven't told us what it is yet?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 14, 2008, 06:45:51 am
Keywords been said: sol, superdestroyer, gtva, raynor, sirona, etc.

Additional keywords: shivans, sol gate, post-capella.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Aardwolf on September 14, 2008, 06:47:44 am
Aw. I wanted a pre-capella + shivans + sol gate campaign
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 15, 2008, 08:02:12 am
Hey, The Gaia looks kinda good. Now if only I could make it vasudan... or shivan...

Can anyone upload it seperately?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 18, 2008, 02:51:15 am
Hey, The Gaia looks kinda good. Now if only I could make it vasudan... or shivan...

Can anyone upload it seperately?

http://www.freespacemods.net/download.php?view.374
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Topgun on September 18, 2008, 07:14:34 am
Very.

I love this guy  :)
join the club... well I don't love him but, anyways...

and I thought the moscow was a corvette?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 18, 2008, 07:30:26 am
Aparently there's an in-game version of it as a battleship. Too bad that it's UV Map is horrible.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on September 19, 2008, 05:30:17 am
Here is the main volume's draft.  ShadowGorrath how long do you want it to be?   I'm thinking something like 4000 meters.

[attachment deleted by ninja]
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 19, 2008, 07:54:29 am
Aye, 4 kilometers.

I like what I see so far  :)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 19, 2008, 08:05:40 am
Some how 4 kilometers seems more like a normal destroyer than a super destroyer to me ... But that may just be me. Just do it as you see fit.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 19, 2008, 08:27:08 am
Lucifer is 3km. If it was 5km, then it'd be a juggernaut.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on September 19, 2008, 12:22:51 pm
Here is the main volume's draft.  ShadowGorrath how long do you want it to be?   I'm thinking something like 4000 meters.
:(

I WANT IT
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on September 19, 2008, 12:29:08 pm
Oi Snail, you can want it, but you'll only get it when my other mod is released.  :p
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Mobius on September 19, 2008, 12:31:33 pm
Some how 4 kilometers seems more like a normal destroyer than a super destroyer to me ... But that may just be me. Just do it as you see fit.

Superdestroyers usually are 3kms long while destroyers are 2 kms long. Juggernauts are 5-6kms long.

4kms is reasonable for a sleek superdestroyer.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on October 12, 2008, 10:19:39 pm
Main volume finished, partially detailed.

[attachment deleted by Tolwyn]
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Droid803 on October 12, 2008, 10:55:36 pm
Very nice!
Side mounted multipart turrets probably won't work too well, though.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on October 12, 2008, 11:00:55 pm
Can't see it for 8+ hours.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 12, 2008, 11:24:56 pm
It's beautiful.  Captures the linear, block overall shape of the Orion class, while rounding the edges to be more FS2 modern-ish.  Does it have a fighterbay?  I could see this becoming a rather popular model if it gets finished and released.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on October 12, 2008, 11:28:43 pm
It has a huge fighterbay.  :)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on October 12, 2008, 11:58:40 pm
Can someone upload a 320x240 sized picture of it, that is less than 35kb, to imageshack, and post a direct link to it, so I can download it to my phone and see?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Droid803 on October 13, 2008, 12:18:13 am
The fighter bays are the two diagonally oriented rear-facing chutes, right?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 13, 2008, 12:28:40 am
Can someone upload a 320x240 sized picture of it, that is less than 35kb, to imageshack, and post a direct link to it, so I can download it to my phone and see?
One moment. Photobucket ok?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a354/sohmingjian/One.gif
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Droid803 on October 13, 2008, 12:35:55 am
And SG, if you think its paint scheme won't match the others in the *classified*, it shouldn't be hard to change :P
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Commander Zane on October 13, 2008, 12:50:40 am
All I've got to say is, nice.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on October 13, 2008, 12:53:03 am
Wooohoooo!!!

As soon as I get it, I'll declassify info of Sol.

A shame I'll have to change the maps to fit the Sol faction.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 13, 2008, 06:12:20 am
As it is tho, it reminds me of a Kushan Heavy Cruiser.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Droid803 on October 13, 2008, 11:39:24 am
You mean, with the dual beam cannon at the front?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Admiral_Stones on October 13, 2008, 12:49:05 pm
It looks like a <you know what>.

Hey, that's probably why I love it!


That joke was funny 8 years ago.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on December 05, 2008, 11:15:03 pm
Here it is whith a new texture, alternative to the "helheim".

[attachment stolen by Slimey Goober]
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Droid803 on December 06, 2008, 12:03:31 am
Beautiful! :yes:
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 06, 2008, 02:22:31 am
You mean, with the dual beam cannon at the front?
Yea, that one.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 06, 2008, 02:43:46 am
It's cool©
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on December 06, 2008, 05:28:14 am
That looks like some serious p4wnage.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on December 06, 2008, 06:07:36 am
It looks amazing, peterv :)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on December 06, 2008, 06:29:19 am
Whensitgonna be converted? ;)
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Rodo on December 06, 2008, 06:39:54 am
:eek:  that looks nice peterv 
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: BengalTiger on December 06, 2008, 08:17:28 am
Finally a ship that uses multiparts on the sides...

Since when does the engine support that feature?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Jadehawk on December 06, 2008, 10:35:11 am
I'd love to re-texture this one myself as I have done for over 30 ships to date :) Dam it's addictive!
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: ShadowGorrath on December 06, 2008, 12:06:07 pm
Well, Jadehawk, this ship is only for End War, so... Unless you'd do the re-texture for End War?

Or, if you'd like to join as a texture editor?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Jadehawk on December 06, 2008, 06:51:24 pm
ShadowGorrath, thank you for the kind offer! Right now I'm committed to Teeth of the Tiger and some personal projects and sadly cannot join in. If this ever get released in the future, I may give it a spin. Regardless, I do wish you all the very best on your mod!  :yes:
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: blowfish on December 06, 2008, 07:10:20 pm
Finally a ship that uses multiparts on the sides...

Since when does the engine support that feature?

's been in for a while.  IIRC it was broken at some point but then fixed.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on December 07, 2008, 03:49:50 am
When was it fixed?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Mobius on December 07, 2008, 04:10:56 am
Tried the Megaera, Olemus and Moscow. All ugly, except that the Moscow is badly UV mapped.

That was the old Megaera...
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 07, 2008, 07:40:37 am
So multiparts on side work now?
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: Snail on December 07, 2008, 08:24:01 am
That was the old Megaera...
The new one has twice as many polies.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: BengalTiger on December 07, 2008, 10:27:13 am
So multiparts on side work now?

I think it's any angle as far as you can figure out the normals now.
Title: Re: I need a superdestroyer
Post by: peterv on December 08, 2008, 01:59:32 am
Thank's everyone.  :)
I didn' t knew there was an issue with the side multiparts. I'll check that.