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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Aurora Paradox on September 28, 2008, 10:14:30 am
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My primary PC recently decided to go AWOL recently. I've had to start using my old one until I can get my primary up and running again. Unfortunately my old PC is no where near as powerful as my primary. Could someone give me recommendations on what settings and enhancements I can use without any lag occuring.
Specs are as follows:
Pentium 2.40 GHZ with HT
512 MB of RAM
Ge Force 5200 FX(non overclocked)
Thanks in advance,
Aurora Paradox
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Without any lag? You're best off playing vanilla.
With some potential, minor lag? You can easily use the MediaVPs. If you experience disturbing slowdowns, remove the AdvEffects. Mama's rig (~1.93GHz, 512 RAM, Radeon 9600) can run the game without AdvEffects just fine.
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Without any lag? You're best off playing vanilla.
With some potential, minor lag? You can easily use the MediaVPs. If you experience disturbing slowdowns, remove the AdvEffects. Mama's rig (~1.93GHz, 512 RAM, Radeon 9600) can run the game without AdvEffects just fine.
I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
For reference the specs of my primary were:
AMD 3.0 GHZ Dual Core
2 GB of RAM
Ge Force 8500 GT
I experienced no lag whatsoever when playing FSO with all enhancements on that PC.
Aurora Paradox
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
OK thank you for the clarification. I actually made a mistake with the specs I put down for my old PC. They actually are:
Pentium 2.60 GHZ with HT
Ge Force 5200 FX 128 MB
512 MB of RAM.
I'm still new to using the Freespace Open. How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
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How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
If (and when) you have the MediaVPs in \freespace2\mediavps\, just remove mv_adveffects.vp and mp-710_adveffects.vp.
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How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
If (and when) you have the MediaVPs in \freespace2\mediavps\, just remove mv_adveffects.vp and mp-710_adveffects.
Thanks for everything. I just have one last question before I start downloading the game onto this PC. Should I use the 3.6.9 executable or the experimental 3.6.10 executable?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
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That is a matter of preference. 3.6.9 is the latest official and stable release, but it suffers from the dreaded red-alert bug on certain occasions. And you'll have to remember to manually enable the jpg/tga textures from the Launcher. 3.6.10 builds are somewhat unofficial, but do not suffer from the red-alert bug, can enable the jpg/tga textures automatically and are, well, more fun to use. The Recommended build linked in my signature has proven to be a sturdy choice.
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I'll give the 3.6.10 executable a try then and see how it goes. Any other words of wisdom other than always keep one eye on my six.
Aurora Paradox
P.S. I did have one problem when running FSO on my primary PC. The voice in the tech lab and some of the standard pilot voice overs during missions were a computerized voice and not an actual voice over. How would I fix this if I encounter it on this PC?
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The voice in the tech lab and some of the standard pilot voice overs during missions were a computerized voice and not an actual voice over. How would I fix this if I encounter it on this PC?
Under the Launcher's Speech tab, tick off all options.
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I'm able to get just about every feature, including what's in AdvEffects, to run on a machine with 512MB of RAM and a Radeon X300 card without an inordinate amount of lag (other than the aforementioned glitchy asteroids and the occasional hey-have-ten-destroyers uber-mission). The 3.6.10 in-progress builds seem to have become a lot more efficient resources-wise than even 3.6.9 was, and that itself was a big step up from previous releases.
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No Welcome yet? :nervous:
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:welcome:
Happy? :p
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You guys are slipping :) no long winded welcome speeches = :yes: no welcomes = :no: :p
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Also, the old welcome beam.
:no: :rolleyes:
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
For reference the specs of my primary were:
AMD 3.0 GHZ Dual Core
2 GB of RAM
Ge Force 8500 GT
I experienced no lag whatsoever when playing FSO with all enhancements on that PC.
:wtf:
Is the 8500 GT > 7600 GTS?
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
OK thank you for the clarification. I actually made a mistake with the specs I put down for my old PC. They actually are:
Pentium 2.60 GHZ with HT
Ge Force 5200 FX 128 MB
512 MB of RAM.
I'm still new to using the Freespace Open. How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
Your old computer? Many people don't have a "primary" that good. *looks around for people to support him*
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
OK thank you for the clarification. I actually made a mistake with the specs I put down for my old PC. They actually are:
Pentium 2.60 GHZ with HT
Ge Force 5200 FX 128 MB
512 MB of RAM.
I'm still new to using the Freespace Open. How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
Your old computer? Many people don't have a "primary" that good. *looks around for people to support him*
Keep looking.
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I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
OK thank you for the clarification. I actually made a mistake with the specs I put down for my old PC. They actually are:
Pentium 2.60 GHZ with HT
Ge Force 5200 FX 128 MB
512 MB of RAM.
I'm still new to using the Freespace Open. How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
Your old computer? Many people don't have a "primary" that good. *looks around for people to support him*
Wait, what? When was this thread bomped from? :confused:
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I'm able to get just about every feature, including what's in AdvEffects, to run on a machine with 512MB of RAM and a Radeon X300 card without an inordinate amount of lag (other than the aforementioned glitchy asteroids and the occasional hey-have-ten-destroyers uber-mission). The 3.6.10 in-progress builds seem to have become a lot more efficient resources-wise than even 3.6.9 was, and that itself was a big step up from previous releases.
How close are the specs of a Radeon X300 Card to the Ge Force 5200 FX? I feel a tad humbled by asking this because my major is computer science and I feel like I should know the answer to this already. I'm just not very familiar with the various Radeon cards yet.
Thanks in advance,
Aurora Paradox
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X300 is a tad bit better then a FX5200.
I know what minor lag equals in most other games and I can tolerate it. However when you say minor lag in FSO what exactly are we talking about here.
Pretty much the same thing as with other games. A little twitch here and there, especially in BOEs and, to some extent, in asteroid field missions. Like I said, I've played FSO with the MediaVPs (excluding the AdvEffects) on moma's computer with the aforementioned specs and it has been quite enjoyable.
But in regards to the asteroids, use the 3.6.8 MediaVPs instead of the 3.6.10 Betas, since the latter have some serious performance-killer asteroids.
OK thank you for the clarification. I actually made a mistake with the specs I put down for my old PC. They actually are:
Pentium 2.60 GHZ with HT
Ge Force 5200 FX 128 MB
512 MB of RAM.
I'm still new to using the Freespace Open. How do I run the mediavps without including advanced effects?
Thanks again,
Aurora Paradox
Your old computer? Many people don't have a "primary" that good. *looks around for people to support him*
Keep looking.
My primary computer, right now, is a Celeron M-ULV 353 @ 900MHz, 1GB DDR2, GMA900, and two SSDs... all in a chassis half the size of normal notebooks, weighting in at 2.2lbs and with an 8.9" LCD. Now then: once my monitor arrives, the primary title goes to my E2140 @ 3.2GHz, 2GB DDR2, and HD3850.
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I have no idea, honestly. I know it was a rather low-end card even when I purchased this machine four years ago, if that gives you anything to go by. It has enough features to handle all of the SCP features, outside of the Shader Model 3.0 that's necessary for normal maps.
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I'm having some issues with the download. All the download mirrors refuse to work when its get to the file mv_core.zip
The file mv_adveffects.zip appears to be unable to download as well. I think the problem may extend to other files as well.
I didn't realize this until the game wouldn't run properly after I download it the first time. Fixing this issue is beyond my control. I hope it isn't too difficult to fix.
Aurora Paradox
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I'm having some issues with the download. All the download mirrors refuse to work when its get to the file mv_core.zip
The file mv_adveffects.zip appears to be unable to download as well. I think the problem may extend to other files as well.
I didn't realize this until the game wouldn't run properly after I download it the first time. Fixing this issue is beyond my control. I hope it isn't too difficult to fix.
Aurora Paradox
It's working for me. Try re-running the Installer.
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I'm re-downloading it now and already a download mirror has failed. I'll attach a word doc with a log from the installer with it finishes. I hope that will help.
Aurora Paradox
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I couldn't copy the log out of the installer window. How do I get all the files I need with the installer not working properly?
Aurora Paradox
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The release thread for the 3.6.10 Beta MediaVPs can be found at the Upgrade Project board. They can be downloaded manually from there.
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The release thread for the 3.6.10 Beta MediaVPs can be found at the Upgrade Project board. They can be downloaded manually from there.
The download links aren't working I just tried them.
Aurora Paradox
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Oh, piss eggs. Nothing seems to work today. Except the 3.6.10 mirror (http://www.exp.de/filebrowser.php?go=/Games/freespace2/scp/mediavps).
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Oh, piss eggs. Nothing seems to work today. Except the 3.6.10 mirror (http://www.exp.de/filebrowser.php?go=/Games/freespace2/scp/mediavps).
I'll get started downloading them. I just need to know where to put them after I have them all.
Thanks again for all your help so far Lobo,
Aurora Paradox
P.S. I found the notes my installer left behind and can upload them if it would help. There are several files though and I would need to know which one.
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They go to \freespace2\mediavps\. Like the 3.6.8's would if you could download them.
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P.S. I found the notes my installer left behind and can upload them if it would help. There are several files though and I would need to know which one.
installer_status.log.txt and installer_error.log.txt are the ones I need.
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P.S. I found the notes my installer left behind and can upload them if it would help. There are several files though and I would need to know which one.
installer_status.log.txt and installer_error.log.txt are the ones I need.
I've attached those files to this post. I hope they help.
Aurora Paradox
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They go to \freespace2\mediavps\. Like the 3.6.8's would if you could download them.
There are three files and a folder already there. The folder is named data which I'm assuming should be kept. The files are mp-710_effects.vp , mp-710_adveffects.vp , and mp-710_models.vp. What should I do with these three files?
Aurora Paradox
P.S. Pardon the double post.
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http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,42854.msg1148350.html#msg1148350
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I re-downloaded the game and I looked through the log as far as I can tell I have everything. However the game won't launch. I'm honestly not sure why either. What information do you need to give me a diagnose? Before you ask I already downloaded and installed the open AL.
Aurora Paradox
EDIT: I am attaching a word doc with the error message. However it is referencing a file in Drive J and I have no such drive. I'm guessing it is looking in the wrong place for something but I have no clue how to fix that.
EDIT2: I just found this thread: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,56843.0.html
Same problem same message. This is odd however because while I would gladly buy the retail version of FS2 I was able to use FSO without the retail game before.
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EDIT: I am attaching a word doc with the error message. However it is referencing a file in Drive J and I have no such drive. I'm guessing it is looking in the wrong place for something but I have no clue how to fix that.
In future, please attach .txt files. They can be openede with just one click. Attaching 7-Zipped .docs necessitates downloading, extracting and viewing, assuming the user already has 7-Zip/other archive tool and Word.
EDIT: I am attaching a word doc with the error message. However it is referencing a file in Drive J and I have no such drive. I'm guessing it is looking in the wrong place for something but I have no clue how to fix that.
Actually, it references to the location on the computer of the person who originally coded that part of the game engine. It has nothing to do with your computer.
I was able to use FSO without the retail game before.
No, you weren't. FSO won't run without retail FS2 files.
Total conversions such as TBP and WCS will, but FSO won't.
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EDIT2: I just found this thread: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,56843.0.html
Same problem same message. This is odd however because while I would gladly buy the retail version of FS2 I was able to use FSO without the retail game before.
The online installer used to download the entire retail game before installing FS2_Open on top of it. It wasn't legal but it didn't seem anyone cared. However now that there is an official distributor for the game it is no longer sensible to do that.
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Thanks for clearing everything up for me guys. I really appreciate it. As soon as good old games actually "opens" I will buy a copy of Free Space 2. Which hopefully will be soon..... I'm assuming that good old games isn't breaking any laws by selling this game.
Aurora Paradox
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I'm assuming that good old games isn't breaking any laws by selling this game.
You can be sure that if GOG was illegally making profit from distributing FS2, we wouldn't be advising our new members to buy FS2 from there.