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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Diaspora => Topic started by: Adalla on October 02, 2008, 01:26:33 pm
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I wanted to take this opportunity to introduce BSG Pilots to those who might have not heard of it as well as hope to forge a good relationship between Diaspora and BSG Pilots.
BSG Pilots was founded in August 2007 with the objective of becoming a hub of Beyond the Red Line gamers, offering a chat room we named "The Launch Tube" where players could meet and arrange games since BtRL did not have an in-game lobby. It also served as a neutral ground for BtRL fans to voice their opinions freely on our forums. Later on, when BtRL started to lose fans and popularity and people started getting bored of the demo, BSG Pilots started to change it's mission to encompass more than BtRL in order to survive and not die like the BtRL gaming clans. At first we started supporting other BSG games such as the Homeworld 2 mod "Fleet Commander" and even Sierra's pathetic little arcade game. As more mods appeared, such as the mod for Crysis, we started covering news of such mods. Eventually however the entire BSG gaming community stagnated. There was nothing to be excited about anymore. Fleet Commander was not very popular for some reason, perhaps it was some of the bugs that pleagued it. BtRL stopped releasing new content after the demo or even giving any updates at all, and BtRL fan FREDders were starting to run out of ideas for missions and campaigns having only Vipers and Raiders and Tillium ships to work with.
Thus began BSG Pilots evolution into one of the premiere BSG news and fansites upon the start of Season 4 of the show. We held weekly discussion events right after each ep aired on Fridays, and we grew at a right of about 30 to 40 members a month. With time, BSG gaming became secondary and the BSG show and movies took over.
However, the other day our "Sim Room", the forum dedicated to BSG gaming had a new post. A rarity these days. The thread title simply read "Diaspora". And there was Kara announcing this new mod and linking BSG Pilot folk to the Diaspora website.
A new beginning for freespace 2 BSG gaming, so why not a new beginning for BSG Pilots. Indeed BSG Pilots fully supports Diaspora and we offer our services in any way that we can help. As I said BSG Pilot's original mission was to be a hub of BSG gamers that could meet in a neutral environment, discuss every BSG game and mod freely, as well as use our services such as our Launch Tube Chat to arrange games and talk about the mods and games in real time.
At BSG Pilots we are hoping that BSG gaming will once again become a major part of our site. We wish to keep a good relationship with the Diaspora Dev team.
BSG Pilots can act as the multi-player hub for Diaspora gamers. People can use our Launch Tube chat to meet and arrange games, as well as discuss the mod in real time. We also offer our Calendar and forums to arrange events, and we can even sign up at battlestats.com to keep track of scores in competitive events.
I dont think I will have time to be behind it all, but we can appoint staff to our Gaming department to take care of such things, and perhaps have Liasons with the Diaspora dev team.
Either way, I'm sure we will figure something out. Just wanted to get the word out about BSG Pilots.
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I've always sent people to BSG Pilots to organise games, etc and I think it does good to have an unofficial site for people to just chat about the game openly without fear of annoying the devs.
BSG pilots was actually the first place I linked to here since I knew that was where some of the biggest fans had gone. :)
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Influx of new people = good, wider fanbase = equally good.
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Interesting! Didn't know anything about this organization and the fans that sprung up around BtRL. A pretty good idea actually!
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BSG Pilots's Gaming aspect started dying out along with BtRL and the gaming clans that supported it, however, we do hope Diaspora will change things for the better for us as well :)
Hopefully our Launch Tube will get croweded with BSG Pilots once again :)
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BSG Pilots's Gaming aspect started dying out along with BtRL and the gaming clans that supported it, however, we do hope Diaspora will change things for the better for us as well :)
Hopefully our Launch Tube will get croweded with BSG Pilots once again :)
With the announcement of a new BSG game with Capships AND a better Netcode IN the first release we could easily become "Overcrowded ", i wonder if we have enough room for all pilots...:D
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Make sure you do grab the remaining BTRL fanbase, you can't depend on them just stumbling across it. (not implying that you're not doing anything, I just don't know what you are doing)
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I'd like to stress the fact that we do not want to grab or steal BtRL's fans. As far as we are concerned, people can play and enjoy both games.
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Make sure you do grab the remaining BTRL fanbase, you can't depend on them just stumbling across it. (not implying that you're not doing anything, I just don't know what you are doing)
We have organized the BSG Pilots BTRL Gamenight, every Friday 6pm GMT onwards, sometimes with success, everything else said Adalla in his post.
On 'good' weekends, we had up to 6 servers running at the same time ( 3 or 4 of 'em full ).
The last months have been really quite, mostly due to probs with lag and the lack of new content and the fact that beginners had 'luck' to play with advanced players who had played almost every day, that's a bit discouraging.
I don't see a reason why not to organize game nights, and other events, for both games.
Granted, Diaspora has a advantage over BtrL ( netcode, Capships, episodic releases - people will get new content earlier...), but abandon BtrL completely would be a mistake, imo.
There is enough room on this world for two BSG games.
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There is enough room on this world for two BSG games.
:yes:
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BSG Pilots has nothing against the fans of BtRL. We only officially stopped support of BtRL due to their lack of respect for the fans. They did not respect us and so we do not respect them.
But as I said, that is only the official stance of BSG Pilots. Our members are free to do as they wish. And by officially not supporting BtRL that implies that the Staff of BSG Pilots will NOT be hosting gaming events for BtRL or reporting news regarding that mod. We will however be hosting Diaspora gaming events and supporting Diaspora in every way we can.
This is a simple message to those people who think that they can get away with mis-treating others and thinking they will somehow force people to support them just because they are making a good game. No, the ability to model or code well is worthless during the development of a game if you do not respect the fans which are so loyal to you and trying to support you.
Having said this, BSG Pilots members are free to use our Launch Tube chatroom to organize events for BtRL. But the BSG Pilots Event Department (and all other Departments) will not be supporting BtRL.
We do encourage fans to have some self-respect and support Diaspora, which unlike BtRL, seems to be off to a good start as they have listened to the wishes of the fans and respect them and are willing to treat them like equals, not like garbage.
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You got bored of BtRL, right?
There were plenties of FS mods and FS2 itself to play with...why didn't you suggest the others to become FS fans? :rolleyes:
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Begging the fact that most hardened BTRL/BSG game freak fans were dissapointed at the slow leak of info which resulted in sometimes ma month without any isea on what was forming tended to push many fans away, which in all due honesty sucked my hat goes off to all the hardcore and dedicated devs that made the tough decision on what was needed to get any progress done at all ... must have been difficult but hey hard times and hard decisoins do make it a critical time... i believe Dia crew has made the proper choice to cater to the fan base even more so ,. they are the real fans who commit themselves to the project.. much respect to Kara and the crew
on another note id just like to say wow guys keep it coming ur doing a immense job and its looking very sexeh !
Hardcore BSG fan and willing ginue pig ..... BSG_9Raziel /salute
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You got bored of BtRL, right?
There were plenties of FS mods and FS2 itself to play with...why didn't you suggest the others to become FS fans?
The Freespace 2 and the Battlefield engines have nothing to do with one another. One is a FPS engine the other is a flight sim engine.
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You got bored of BtRL, right?
There were plenties of FS mods and FS2 itself to play with...why didn't you suggest the others to become FS fans?
The Freespace 2 and the Battlefield engines have nothing to do with one another. One is a FPS engine the other is a flight sim engine.
:wtf: are you talking about?
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Adalla thinks Mobius suggested that they should've turned BtRL fans into fans of other Galactica mods.
In fact, Mobius is encouraging you guys to branch out into other FS2 mods and Freespace itself -- which are beautifully alive and well.
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Some of them are... I know I've seen Angelus at some of the TBP multi nights, at least :)
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Yeah, thursdays TBP, on weekends BtrL, hadn't the chance to play the last 6-7 weeks, though.
I also played WC Saga ( love it!! ) and tried the Mp demo from the Star Wars Conversion.
To my shame, i have to admit i never played FS2 ( FS open ).
As soon i get the weird DL error fixed, i'll check it out, SP and MP.
With all the campaigns for FS OPen, you could easily spend a couple of weeks, only playing. :)
Not that i have that much time to play, the missions i FRED atm, are eating time.
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As soon i get the weird DL error fixed, i'll check it out, SP and MP.
Which DL error would that be?
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As soon i get the weird DL error fixed, i'll check it out, SP and MP.
Which DL error would that be?
As soon the VP ( Sparky ) reaches 170Mb the DL stops. Tried it a couple of times, always the same result.
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Ah. Well, I can assue you that won't happen again. Turey's FSO Installer does not provide the retail files at all anymore, but you can purchase a cheap, legal copy of FS2 from Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com/).
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I see...I assume Turey changed the Installer shortly after reading that "encouraging" thread about Interplay?
In any case all BSG pilots should give FS a try... :)
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I see...I assume Turey changed the Installer shortly after reading that "encouraging" thread about Interplay?
In any case all BSG pilots should give FS a try... :)
This makes me curious, could you provide a link please? :)
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I see...I assume Turey changed the Installer shortly after reading that "encouraging" thread about Interplay?
Actually, no. There was some (not-for-normal-forumites'-eyes) discussion about it when we first heard of GOG. It was thought that we shouldn't provide the retail data anymore, since there now is a handy, legal method for getting FS2. And with little money as well. Turey agreed, as the Installer had only provided FS2, because back then there were no legal methods for getting FS2, apart from eBay which sucks Satan's Hairy BollocksTM.
It is now mentioned in the Installer thread, as well as on the Installation Walkthrough on the Support board.
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Angelus: I don't remember where it is, sorry... :(
Lobo: Ok, GOG allowes people to buy the game...but is that service fair enough to send copies of FS2 throught the world? I hard believe an Italian, a Lithuanian, a Singaporean and an Argentinian have the same chances and possibilities of getting the game. The price will change, too.
Is ULing retail data to a site that has no apparent connections to HLP a nice idea?
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Lobo: Ok, GOG allowes people to buy the game...but is that service fair enough to send copies of FS2 throught the world?
Yes...because it's a fully international service. Anyone anywhere can purchase the game for $6 US. Everybody's in the same boat.
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Anyone caught posting links to FS2 for download other than an official site such as GoG will be banned. I don't care what bull**** reason they give for it.
GoG proved to be a very cool bunch of people over the whole thing with LuaPineapple and even if they hadn't they are the only people with the legal right to distribute the game on the internet. I'm not having some halfwit drag the entire site down because they've decided to upload warez in strict violation of the board's policy.
Furthermore this entire line of conversation is completely off-topic and will likely result in a monkeying if it continues.
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I am pleased to announce that the 1st Edition of the new monthly BSGpilots.com newsletter, the Jock Smock Times has been published some minutes ago and Diaspora takes up 100% of the news in the Gaming category with some exclusive content and images.
BSG fans should definitely check out the rest of the Newsletter as we have exclusive content and news regarding the show as well, including upcoming exclusive interviews with a few BSG cast members.
I wish to thank Karajorma and Diaspora for providing us with exclusive content and for maintaining a good relationship between our two communities.
We wish Diaspora best wishes and thanx for all the hard work. Keep it up! The BSGpilots.com Fleet News Service and our Jock Smock Times newsletter will strive to continue bringing news and updates (and interviews with the Team) regarding Diaspora.
Long live Diaspora!
So Say We All
Jock Smock Times, 1st Ed., September 2008 (http://www.bsgpilots.com/index.php/topic,409.0.html)
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So say we all. :D
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any chance to get bsgpilots.com on the links list of the Diaspora website?
We will repay the favor, I promise :P
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I'll try to remember adding the link when I get the chance.
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Don't worry, the rest of us will beat you with a pointy stick until you remember. Just, you know, to be helpful... :D
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I know. I still bear the marks from the last time.
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And done: http://www.diaspora-game.com/links.html
See, no need for the pointy sticks.
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Thanx so much m8. Besides the announcement and link on the announcements box dead in the center of our index page, we have added Disapora to the gaming setion of our Links library.
Here is the description:
Diaspora is a dream come true for Battlestar Galactica fans. This game will give BSG fans a chance to stop being only spectators of the show and instead become the protagonists. Get yourself into Viper and make BSG history!
And for those interested, here is the BtRL description ;)
A fan made BSG game. BSG Pilots was founded originally to serve the BtRL community. Unfortunately the Developers disrespected fans, failed to provide bug fixes, updates and new content, thus most fans and websites abandoned BtRL.
I'm sorry...I cant help it :P
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You might also want to add Cry of the Gods (http://www.thexuniverse.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=36). I've been to their forums and they seem like a pretty nice bunch. And since they are willing to pimp Diaspora on their forum it's only fair I do the same on mine. :)
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Thanx for the heads up. It is good for BSG games to support each other. There are very few after all.
Is it a mod for the X series of sim? X3 Reunion?
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Yup, which means it'll look great, X3 isn't my favourite combat dynamics in the world, but from what I've seen, the team are doing an awesome job.
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ooh i got x3 terran conflict could be worth looking into hehe
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Although BSGpilots.com started out with the primary goal of being a meeting place for BSG gamers using our Launch Tube Chatroom, over the years it has evolved into an all-encompassing BSG fansite and the gaming aspect has become one of our several Departments.
Up to this point things have been quiet. BtRL died, the Sierra BSG game sucked, and other BSG mods have not taken-off, so basically BSG gaming has fallen off our priority list.
However, with the advent of Diaspora, things are different. Diaspora is the most promising BSG game to date, and BSGpilots wants to be prepared with Release 1 hits the web.
Our Head of Gaming at BSGP, Angelus, has been busy in RL and our other Gaming Staff member, Foundry, has gone MIA also. I dont have the time to dedicate to Diaspora and our Gaming Department full time, and I feel we have been neglecting on of our primary aspects, i.e. BSG gaming.
So, I am looking right now for what one could call a "Business Development" person. I.e, someone who will help us prepare for the release of Diaspora and make the appropriate preparations to best serve the Diaspora gaming community. We also are seeking for Writers for our Fleet News Service who will specialize in BSG Gaming news and articles. Once Diaspora is released, we'll also be looking for Event Administrators who plan, organize, promote, oversee and manage Diaspora gaming events.
Last but not least, I would like to develop an event hosting and statistic tracking system for BSGP. Something along the line of Battlestats.com (http://www.battlestats.com), except dedicated solely to BSG gaming.
What this will do is allow people to register an account, and participate in organized Diaspora gaming events such as tournaments, ladders, wars etc. It'd also allow for people to create and manage Clans, and have Clan vs Clan competitions.
I am capable of building such a system, but unfortunately I dont think I have the time. I might try to give it a shot sometime, but we are looking for people who are fluent in PHP and MySQL and want to help develop such a system.
So to recap we are looking for:
BSG Gaming News Writers
BSG Gaming Department Developers and Diaspora Liaisons
PHP Programmers
So if you have the skills of a writer and/or programming skills and/or are good with Forum software (SMF) and are passionate about Diaspora and Battlestar Galactica and want to help us build a great home for BSG gamers, then drop me a line through PMs on this forum, or the BSGPilots forum.
Help us relaunch the BSGpilots Gaming Department :)
Adalla,
Site Admin,
BSGpilots.com