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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: james777 on October 07, 2008, 01:55:26 pm
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Firefox or Internet Explorer? Which one do you use?
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Opera.
Not srsly, but it is major enough to be allowed to participate in this poll.
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Opera.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48078.0.html
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53953.0.html
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44883.0.html
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fixed it. :)
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Opera.
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,48078.0.html
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53953.0.html
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44883.0.html
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I knew there had to be one of these already, but three? Koo.
Oh, oh! Safari is missing too. And Chrome, depending on if you want to count it as it is still in "beta".
Maybe Konqueror?
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i use opera, firefox and konqueror on linux and opera firefox and chrome on windows , it just depends what im trying to do ,ifim watching p2p sports fims etc i use opera and firefox
nver use internet explorer it just annoys me
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Firefox - essentially a better version of IE 7, so I would go for it.
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I use Firefox. Not because I prefer it to Opera, but because I can't be arsed to load up Firefox in order to view the poorly written websites that Opera can't render properly when I'm already running it. So yes, my browser of choice was chosen because of ****ty web authoring practices.
And no, I don't want to visit your forum.
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It's interesting how consistent the responses have been in these polls.
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Browser of choice? Firefox 3.0. Its a great mix of compatibility, speed, and extensibility. IE7 is at least a credible browser unlike IE6 which was far too long in the tooth and is unfortunately still around in far too many numbers. Safari is light and fast but I find the UI a bit jarring at times...not a strictly Mac OS X person so that may be my issue. Sometimes it seems so simple its hard. Chrome is similar both technologically and with the same sort of UI issue where its so simple its missing something for me.
Opera is nice, full featured, but some websites render improperly for it (bad coding often the cause) and its just a little different when it comes to UI.
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FireFox. Browsing the internet without a certain set of extensions is a painful experience for me.
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FireFox I never did like Internet Explorer it always seem to crash on when i used it.
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Both.
Desktop has IE.
Laptop has FF.
Have not noticed anything in Firefox that makes it so much better than IE. In fact, I find IE a bit more convenient, believe it or not.
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FireFox I never did like Internet Explorer it always seem to crash on when i used it.
One of the many reasons I call it Internet Exploder :)
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Ever since I moved to Firefox it seems to have found a way to crash about every 2 days. It never ends.
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I use Firefox most of the time. However I use Songbird sometimes because it seems to access my university's classical music database much quicker (streams the files much quicker on this World of Warcraft saturated network).
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I find Chrome simple and light. It has independent operations for functions like video-streaming so that if the streaming itself messes up, the browser doesn't crash. It has a neat TAB feature and 'incognito'. If pop-ups get through, they 'pop-under' at the bottom of the browser so that it doesn't interfere with the browsing.
FireFox 3.0 and Vista don't seem to get along in the resource-sharing part. I hate when it skyrockets to 600megs of my memory in comparison to Vista operating under 500 megs taking half of my resources alone just running Windows and my browser! at 3 gigs of memory, a browser should not take over 20% of your overall maximum physical memory.
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I dont have any resource sharing problems. i run Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit
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I find Chrome simple and light. It has independent operations for functions like video-streaming so that if the streaming itself messes up, the browser doesn't crash. It has a neat TAB feature and 'incognito'. If pop-ups get through, they 'pop-under' at the bottom of the browser so that it doesn't interfere with the browsing.
FireFox 3.0 and Vista don't seem to get along in the resource-sharing part. I hate when it skyrockets to 600megs of my memory in comparison to Vista operating under 500 megs taking half of my resources alone just running Windows and my browser! at 3 gigs of memory, a browser should not take over 20% of your overall maximum physical memory.
What are you doing to get 600 mb of memory taken by Firefox? I've been surfing all night and its at 89mb right now. Which is fine given all my extensions and so forth.
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Probably by visiting TomsHardware or another hideously complicated and broken website. Memory leaks and such are often caused by the site, not the browser.
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Browser of choice? Firefox 3.0. Its a great mix of compatibility, speed, and extensibility. IE7 is at least a credible browser unlike IE6 which was far too long in the tooth and is unfortunately still around in far too many numbers. Safari is light and fast but I find the UI a bit jarring at times...not a strictly Mac OS X person so that may be my issue. Sometimes it seems so simple its hard. Chrome is similar both technologically and with the same sort of UI issue where its so simple its missing something for me.
Opera is nice, full featured, but some websites render improperly for it (bad coding often the cause) and its just a little different when it comes to UI.
Safari and IE wouldn't know W3C standards if they reared up, came to life in the form of a large, angry bear, and bit the developers of those two programs squarely on the ass.
While neither FF nor Opera is fully W3C-compliant, they at least make an honest attempt. Safari and IE6 can't even handle CSS properly.
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FF on my workstation (W2k has only IE6). IE7 on my homestation and IE8 Beta2 on my laptop.
But I do have also FF3 and Opera installed on my homestation just for kicks and giggles.
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IE.
I have Firefox, I simply can't be bothered using it, or for that matter upgrading to the latest failfox version. IE works well enough for anything I've had to do so far.
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Firefox wins, :yes:
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Firefox takes a second longer to load the program than IE, but it loads the pages significantly faster.
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I would say quite the opposite. IE is much lighter and seems to have a much easier time loading.
It's really too bad IE6 was so damn insecure, it would have been my browser of choice. :blah:.
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The program itself loads faster upon startup, but webpages take much longer in IE from my experience.
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And the damn bugger is still unable to filter out ads.
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Ever since I moved to Firefox it seems to have found a way to crash about every 2 days. It never ends.
That's definitely not normal, Firefox 3 has been the most stable one for me so far and since it's initial release only crashed a couple of times so far.
This could help: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_crashes
As for why I use Firefox, it's for the extensions like Adblock Plus (block ads, images and more), CustomizeGoogle (easy way to tweak your Google experience) and of course NoScript (to allow flash,javascript etc only on pages that you need)
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Firefox. Started it several years ago, never had any problems with it...
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Adblock Plus (block ads, images and more)... and of course NoScript (to allow flash,javascript etc only on pages that you need)
Call me a weirdo, but I use Adblock Plus for both. Scripts die with a *.js* filter rule and can be revived by creating exceptions when needed.
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I've been using Adblock Plus, but I'm thinking of switching back to the original Adblock, despite its age. I can't seem to get the hang of how to disable specific Flash elements with the former without going through a massive on-page list and experimenting. Regular Adblock allowed you to overlay all Flash elements with a block dialog by hitting Ctrl+Shift+F, so you could take out just the ones that you wanted.
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IE loads faster because Windows Pre-Loads it to memory on start-up.
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I can't seem to get the hang of how to disable specific Flash elements with the former without going through a massive on-page list and experimenting. Regular Adblock allowed you to overlay all Flash elements with a block dialog by hitting Ctrl+Shift+F, so you could take out just the ones that you wanted.
If you open the Adblock Plus interface, there should be a choice that says something like "Show a button with Flash and Java elements" which, when ticked on, shows a "Block" button on Java and Flash objects.
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I don't see the Snuffleupagus option :P
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Adblock Plus (block ads, images and more)... and of course NoScript (to allow flash,javascript etc only on pages that you need)
Call me a weirdo, but I use Adblock Plus for both. Scripts die with a *.js* filter rule and can be revived by creating exceptions when needed.
Yes but how would you know which .js script to block without going to the site atleast once?
Quote: "When you install NoScript, JavaScript, Java, Flash Silverlight and possibly other executable contents are blocked by default. You will be able to allow JavaScript/Java/... execution (scripts from now on) selectively, on the sites you trust. " - http://noscript.net/features (http://noscript.net/features)
Though whitelisting the sites you trust might be hassle for some, I being somewhat security paranoid don't mind it that much.
Also for Adblock Plus users something to checkout:
http://easylist.adblockplus.org/ (http://easylist.adblockplus.org/) - A good collection of filter subscriptions
Adblock Plus: Element Hiding Helper (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4364) - A tool which makes it very easy to hide parts of a web site using Adbock Plus' element hiding rules.
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I would swap to FF3, but I use FireFTP, which isn't compatible :(
I sometimes still have to swap to IE to convince some places to send me a registration Email or to log into some places.
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I would swap to FF3, but I use FireFTP, which isn't compatible :(
I sometimes still have to swap to IE to convince some places to send me a registration Email or to log into some places.
FireFTP - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/684 - Says it works with Firefox 3 ?
IE Tab - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 - Haven't used it, but seems to be pretty popular.
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Hmmm, they may have upgraded it finally, when I first went to upgrade it told me that FireFTP wouldn't work with it, hadn't checked in a few weeks though, admittedly.
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I don't see the Snuffleupagus option :P
Snuffleupagus would make a great web browser.
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I don't see an option to choose more than one, so I'm not voting. :no::rolleyes:
Firefox is good if you want to surf Flash-free websites fast, but if you're going to interact with certain Flash applets like, say, a Shockwave.com game, use Internet Explorer. Safari is good if you want to keep your page history list empty, or if you want to add web clips into Dashboard. This is why I use all three.
There are unique problems associated with each browser, though:
Firefox - Freezes when too many large Flash applets are on screen or being loaded. Certain Flash applets do not work properly.
Internet Explorer - Crashes when too many tabs are open. Uses too much virtual memory.
Safari - Occasionally fails to load web pages. Dashboard function messes up from time to time.
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Hmmm, they may have upgraded it finally, when I first went to upgrade it told me that FireFTP wouldn't work with it, hadn't checked in a few weeks though, admittedly.
Yeah, I've had FireFTP up and running for some time now. I think it took them a bit of time after FF3 was released to patch it, but it works just the same as ever now.
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Adblock Plus (block ads, images and more)... and of course NoScript (to allow flash,javascript etc only on pages that you need)
Call me a weirdo, but I use Adblock Plus for both. Scripts die with a *.js* filter rule and can be revived by creating exceptions when needed.
Yes but how would you know which .js script to block without going to the site atleast once?
:wtf: Umm... by using the *.js* filter rule. You know, asterisk.jsasterisk. It filters anything that has .js somewhere in there. Then, when I'm on a site, if some crucial functionality seems to be missing, I just check through the blockable elements list and try to pinpoint the particular script elements that I should allow. Or with sites that I trust, like HLP, I just create a @@*.hard-light.net/* exception rule.
Simple.
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Flashblock does much the same thing, but it makes it a much more simple task.
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I try to use Opera as much as I can, but sometimes it has issues playing embedded flash videos so I fire up IE to handle it.
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:wtf: Umm... by using the *.js* filter rule. You know, asterisk.jsasterisk. It filters anything that has .js somewhere in there. Then, when I'm on a site, if some crucial functionality seems to be missing, I just check through the blockable elements list and try to pinpoint the particular script elements that I should allow. Or with sites that I trust, like HLP, I just create a @@*.hard-light.net/* exception rule.
Simple.
My bad, I should've read it better :snipe:
Also something for more privacy concerned Chrome users to try - Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php)
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I don't see the Snuffleupagus option :P
Snuffleupagus would make a great web browser.
It'd be better than the others combined, IMO. :)
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LOL
I use Google Chrome nowadays.. Was Google Chrome around in 2008?!?!?!?!LOL
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...how did you manage to dig this one up?
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Dont disturb the old times. Like a pharaohs curse it will eat the ram!!
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I don't see the Snuffleupagus option :P
I forgot to cast my vote back then, so I just did it (it's Chrome). :D