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Title: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: MR_T3D on October 09, 2008, 02:39:48 pm
[other than buy it]
I had to delete my copy of retail FS2 for irrevelent reasons, and now i want to play fs2 again.  i do NOT want to pay for a DL or retail fs2, and am not asking for pirate sites either, i want to if i can DL the installer, DL everything available, and play alternate campains, etc.

all those getting started/FAQ's/etc.  i have found give me nothing.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 09, 2008, 02:44:17 pm
The options are:

1. Own a copy of FS2 already.
2. Find a copy of FS2 from a business establishment (not likely).
3. Purchase a copy of FS2 from a shady eBay personality.
4. Purchase FS2 from Good Old Games.
5. Warez0r FS2.

Turey has made the decision to not include the retail files, since GOG is selling FS2 (and FS1 for that matter) at a most reasonable price. Legally.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: MR_T3D on October 09, 2008, 02:48:34 pm
more corectly; can i play fs2 mods without R fs2?
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 09, 2008, 02:51:48 pm
No.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: General Battuta on October 09, 2008, 02:59:40 pm
You can, however, play Beyond the Red Line, The Babylon Project, the upcoming Diaspora, and other standalones.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 09, 2008, 03:15:47 pm
GOG still allows beta signup and FS2 costs a whopping $6.  You can download it immediately after.  It's worth it.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Havner on October 10, 2008, 08:25:47 pm
Just take into consideration that despite the binary being 1.20 they provide old (pre 1.20) root_fs2.vp. There were some mission fixes in 1.20 which are ont included here. ALready reported to them, we'll see how fast they react :-)
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 10, 2008, 08:32:14 pm
The options are:

1. Own a copy of FS2 already.
2. Find a copy of FS2 from a business establishment (not likely).
3. Purchase a copy of FS2 from a shady eBay personality.
4. Purchase FS2 from Good Old Games.
5. Warez0r FS2.
There's also:

6. Pray to the Gaming Gods that one of your friends buy it
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on October 10, 2008, 08:39:21 pm
Only if it's the version with the allowed to share EULA.

Serious has anyone tried to apply the 1.2 patch to it?  If so and it works I don't see why the patch couldn't be put up for download. 
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Havner on October 10, 2008, 08:44:21 pm
Serious has anyone tried to apply the 1.2 patch to it?  If so and it works I don't see why the patch couldn't be put up for download. 

It fails, it detects that files are not what it expect. Can't get updated root_fs2_vp using that.

Anyway, (if they fix that) I really would advice you to buy it from GOG if you need to geto FS2 (or original FS). These guys deserve support.

http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/idiocy-of-games-drm.ars
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on October 10, 2008, 08:47:52 pm
Well that's not good then.  Is it just root vp or are others not patched as well?
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Havner on October 10, 2008, 08:52:28 pm
Nothing else to be patched I'd say. Binaries are 1.20 and the big vp's were not patched afair (don't see any difference when comparing them to what I have after patch).
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 11, 2008, 02:19:34 am
There's also:

6. Pray to the Gaming Gods that one of your friends buy it
:wtf: What friends?

Nothing else to be patched I'd say. Binaries are 1.20 and the big vp's were not patched afair (don't see any difference when comparing them to what I have after patch).
I wonder if we'd be pushing our luck if we distributed the 1.2 Root_fs2.vp in some manner. I mean, it's not like people could get a commercial game for free if they downloaded just one file.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: karajorma on October 11, 2008, 02:43:23 am
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/Downloads/HotUv1.20Pack.rar

Simply extract it from there.

Don't use any of the exe's as the ones you have are better. In fact if someone could send me a copy of the GoG executables and a screenshot of their folder it would be helpful whenever I have to troubleshoot any problems with their version.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 11, 2008, 03:37:05 am
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/FAQ/Downloads/HotUv1.20Pack.rar

Simply extract it from there.

Don't use any of the exe's as the ones you have are better. In fact if someone could send me a copy of the GoG executables and a screenshot of their folder it would be helpful whenever I have to troubleshoot any problems with their version.

Y'know, I'd say we should simply advise people to build their own install of FS open.  Just pull the data directory tree and the core VPs to a new folder, delete the GOG install.  I did that ages ago, and only bought a copy of FS2 from GOG in order to make sure I have a fully legal copy with no gray areas.

That said, I'll quickly install the GOG copy I do have because I'm curious to see what they've done.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: MP-Ryan on October 11, 2008, 03:56:27 am
I have a present for you kara:

Quote
C:\Program Files\GOG.com\Freespace 2
|   CD.dll
|   FRED2.exe
|   FreeSpace2.exe
|   FS2.exe
|   FS2uninst.dll
|   gfw_high.ico
|   innosetup_license.txt
|   MANUAL.PDF
|   patchw32.dll
|   readme.txt
|   refcard.pdf
|   Root_fs2.vp
|   smarty_fs2.vp
|   sparky_fs2.vp
|   sparky_hi_fs2.vp
|   stu_fs2.vp
|   tango1_fs2.vp
|   tango2_fs2.vp
|   tango3_fs2.vp
|   unins000.dat
|   unins000.exe
|   unins000.ini
|   warble_fs2.vp
|   
+---data
|   |   multi.cfg
|   |   multi.log
|   |   
|   +---cbanims
|   +---effects
|   +---fonts
|   +---force feedback
|   +---freddocs
|   |       3d-compass.gif
|   |       add-variable.gif
|   |       additional-ship-properties.gif
|   |       adjust-grid-dialog.gif
|   |       arrival-and-departure-cues.gif
|   |       asteroid-field-editor.gif
|   |       axis-constraints.gif
|   |       background-editor-bitmaps.gif
|   |       background-editor-misc.gif
|   |       background-editor-nebula.gif
|   |       background-editor-suns.gif
|   |       briefing-editor.gif
|   |       briefing-icons.gif
|   |       campaign-diagram.gif
|   |       campaign-editor-controls.gif
|   |       cartesian.gif
|   |       command-briefing-editor.gif
|   |       concepts.html
|   |       cruiser-adjustments.gif
|   |       debriefing-editor.gif
|   |       distances-example.gif
|   |       edit-menu.gif
|   |       editors.html
|   |       empty-selection-box.gif
|   |       emptymsg.wav
|   |       events-editor-events.gif
|   |       events-editor-messages.gif
|   |       file-menu.gif
|   |       force-1-arrival-true.gif
|   |       force-1-arrival.gif
|   |       form-disband-wing.gif
|   |       FRED2-opening.gif
|   |       fred2.css
|   |       general.html
|   |       groups-menu.gif
|   |       help-menu.gif
|   |       index-no-really.html
|   |       index.html
|   |       initial-orders.gif
|   |       initial-status-editor.gif
|   |       internet.html
|   |       junk.html
|   |       marking.gif
|   |       menus.html
|   |       misc-menu.gif
|   |       mission-objectives-editor.gif
|   |       mission-specs-editor.gif
|   |       mouse-drag-mode.gif
|   |       msgend.wav
|   |       msgstart.wav
|   |       nacbkg1.gif
|   |       nacmenu1.gif
|   |       nactitle1.jpg
|   |       not-incomplete.gif
|   |       nyarlathotep-after.gif
|   |       nyarlathotep-before.gif
|   |       objects-editor.gif
|   |       pelican-departure.gif
|   |       player-orders.gif
|   |       pomotep-initial-status.gif
|   |       pomotep-intercepting.gif
|   |       primary-goal.gif
|   |       quickstart-placement.gif
|   |       quickstart.html
|   |       reinforcements-editor.gif
|   |       relentless-boarded.gif
|   |       relentless-chained.gif
|   |       relentless-departure.gif
|   |       relentless-outcomes.gif
|   |       relentless-pulling-out.gif
|   |       ring-trick.gif
|   |       rotate-around-object.gif
|   |       rotate-locally-example.gif
|   |       rotate-locally.gif
|   |       select-list.gif
|   |       selection-box.gif
|   |       selection-lock.gif
|   |       send-message.gif
|   |       sexp-compressed.gif
|   |       sexp-example-2.gif
|   |       sexp-example.gif
|   |       sexp-help.gif
|   |       sexp-right-menu.gif
|   |       SEXP.html
|   |       shield-system-editor.gif
|   |       ship-selection-dialog.gif
|   |       ships-editor-main-area.gif
|   |       shipyard-completed.fs2
|   |       shipyard.gif
|   |       show-distances.gif
|   |       sleipner-1-done.gif
|   |       sleipner-2-going-in.gif
|   |       sleipner-directives.gif
|   |       special-explosion.gif
|   |       speed-menu.gif
|   |       status-bar.gif
|   |       team-loadout-editor.gif
|   |       too-close.gif
|   |       toolbar-form-wing.gif
|   |       toolbar.html
|   |       vasudantalk.wav
|   |       view-menu.gif
|   |       vssver.scc
|   |       walkthrough.html
|   |       waypoint-paths-editor.gif
|   |       weapons-editor.gif
|   |       wing-positions.gif
|   |       wings-editor.gif
|   |       zoom.gif
|   |       
|   +---hud
|   +---intelanims
|   +---interface
|   +---maps
|   +---missions
|   |       Backup.001
|   |       Backup.002
|   |       
|   +---models
|   +---multidata
|   +---music
|   +---players
|   |   |   hud_1.hcf
|   |   |   hud_2.hcf
|   |   |   hud_3.hcf
|   |   |   
|   |   +---images
|   |   +---multi
|   |   +---single
|   |   \---squads
|   +---sounds
|   |   +---16b11k
|   |   \---8b22k
|   +---tables
|   \---voice
|       +---briefing
|       +---command_briefings
|       +---debriefing
|       +---personas
|       \---special
+---data2
|       COLOSSUS.MVE
|       INTRO.MVE
|       MONO1.MVE
|       tango1_fs2.vp
|       tangoA_fs2.vp
|       warble_fs2.vp
|       
\---data3
        BASTION.MVE
        ENDPART1.MVE
        ENDPRT2A.MVE
        ENDPRT2B.MVE
        MONO2.MVE
        MONO3.MVE
        MONO4.MVE
        tango2_fs2.vp
        tango3_fs2.vp
        tangoB_fs2.vp
        warble_fs2.vp
       

Attached as a plain-text file too.  It looks like people can do exactly what I suggested to make their own FSOpen install if they have no desire to keep retail around.  They just have to get an updated root VP file.

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Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: ShadowGorrath on October 11, 2008, 04:00:06 am
Torrents. You can get using them.

I'll stop now, before this post becomes illegal.  :nervous:
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 11, 2008, 07:01:08 am
Torrents. You can get using them.

I'll stop now, before this post becomes illegal.  :nervous:
Good. Because
Anyone caught posting links to FS2 for download other than an official site such as GoG will be banned. I don't care what bull**** reason they give for it.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: ShadowGorrath on October 11, 2008, 08:37:27 am
There's nothing about sending them via PMs though.  :p Not that I'm gonna try, cause I don't want to get the wrath of HLP on me.
Title: Re: I do not have retail FS2. what can I do?
Post by: Mongoose on October 11, 2008, 12:39:14 pm
There's absolutely no reason to do so anyway, unless you're trying to help some cheap **** who won't even shell out the price of a Big Mac for the game.