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Title: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 11, 2008, 08:28:11 am
BIG lag issue. I've been using adveffects for a long time, so it isn't it. It has to be something on the ''Video'' tab or a ''Game Speed'' flag.

I use:


- 3.6.10 mVPs.

- 3.6.9 build.

- Launcher 5.5d

Please respond!

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Title: Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 11, 2008, 11:55:00 am
The best troubleshooting algorithm in these cases is to think back. What have you done recently? When did this occur? What did you do immediately before this lagging began?

- 3.6.10 mVPs.

- 3.6.9 build.
It is recommended to use a 3.6.10 build (such as the Recommended build in my signature), when using the 3.6.10 MediaVPs. And it is good to note that the asteroids in the 3.6.10 Betas tend to bring almost any rig to its knees.
Title: Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 11, 2008, 03:22:05 pm
Asteroids have nothing to with it.
EDIT: And the 3.6.10 did nothing.

As I said:
It has to be something on the ''Video'' tab or a ''Game Speed'' flag.

Is there something I should/shouldn't do/check?
Title: Re: TOO much lag (NOT BECAUSE OF MV_ADVEFFECTS)
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 11, 2008, 03:24:38 pm
Well, what flags do you have on? As in, any and all flags you've ticked on.
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on October 11, 2008, 03:27:23 pm
Any other games experiencing a problem? The Vid card overheating is always a possibility.

Run the debug build and post the fs2_open.log file from the data directory.
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 12, 2008, 08:43:25 am
I have nothing checked in ''game speed'' and in ''video'' I have:

OpenGL (as always)

1280x1024 (as always)

32-bit (as always)

Trilinear (as always)

anisotropic filter x0 (recent, could be it)

Anti-aliasing x0 (could be it)

General settings 4 (as always)

No large textures (recent, could be it)


Here's the fs2_log.

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Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 12, 2008, 08:52:28 am
We were more interested in your command-line options, not the Video tab.

These:
Code: [Select]
  -spec_exp 9
  -ogl_spec 50
  -spec_static 0.5
  -spec_point 0.4
  -spec_tube 0.4
  -ambient_factor 0
  -env
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -dualscanlines
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -warp_flash
  -mod MediaVPs
  -loadallweps
  -show_mem_usage

1. -env might cause slowdowns. Maybe -mipmap as well.
2. Why do you have -loadallweps and -show_mem_usage on?
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 12, 2008, 11:18:17 am
After removing -mipmap and -env game's smooth more or less. Thanks!

Just 1 question: What exactly do these affect: large textures

                                                              anti-aliasing

                                                              anisotropic filter
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Jeff Vader on October 12, 2008, 11:22:40 am
If I recall correctly, the Large textures thing doesn't actually do anything anymore, but you might as well leave it on. As for the other two:
The anti-aliasing setting in the Launcher doesn't do anything except look pretty at the moment.  If you want to set AA then do it in your driver control panel.  Setting AA will smooth out jaggies on the edges of polys to make things look better.  The higher AA setting that you use the slower it is, but also the more memory required to run the game, so keep that in mind.

The anisotropic filter setting affects mipmap levels.  It's basically like a sharpen filter and when mipmap filtering is used by the game it helps keep the textures from becoming as blurry.  The higher the setting the faster your graphics card need to be, but there are also quality issues, so you might not really like the visual changes when set as high as you can actually set it.  It is best to set AF in the Launcher rather then doing it in your driver control panel.
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: taylor on October 12, 2008, 11:35:34 am
If I recall correctly, the Large textures thing doesn't actually do anything anymore, but you might as well leave it on.
Correct, FSO ignores it.  It only remains on the launcher for compatibility with running retail EXEs, which do make use of that setting.
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 13, 2008, 06:02:21 am
Thanks again!
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Zacam on October 14, 2008, 04:56:12 pm
Turn off show_mem_usage. Use show_stats or a debug build instead.
Title: Re: Too much lag (not because of mv_adveffects)
Post by: Romanmolf on October 15, 2008, 08:04:34 am
Ok.