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Title: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: carbine7 on October 13, 2008, 05:43:06 pm
Yes, thats right, I said Halo. Bungie's secret project who's announcement at E3 was shelved due to Final Fanatsy I don't know what number is somehow more important :confused:
This is their next game, Halo 3 Recon
www.bungie.net/Projects/whvidldshbyjsdo/default.aspx (http://www.bungie.net/Projects/whvidldshbyjsdo/default.aspx)
Discuss and enjoy :)
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Snail on October 13, 2008, 05:50:11 pm
Huh. Another Halo game.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Mefustae on October 13, 2008, 05:53:30 pm
Failure to care imminent.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Snail on October 13, 2008, 05:59:41 pm
I suspect this will be a case of too much hype too little substance, as it was with Halo 3.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 13, 2008, 06:15:57 pm
They're calling it an expansion set, not a full game, and an 'endcap on the Halo 3 experience'. It's more of a valentine to the fans than a full game -- a chance for a more tactical experience.

They're working on full games in a new IP, possibly more than one. I think Bungie's handing Halo off to Microsoft so it can be milked to death.

I'm really excited about one thing, which is the scale. You're playing as an ODST marine, not the Master Chief, which means the seven-foot-tall Elites will actually look huge, like they should. At least I hope so!
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: carbine7 on October 13, 2008, 06:36:12 pm
I'm interested to see how Bungie got permission from MS to do a 'somewhat' Halo game. Probably in the form of $$$$$$$
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Polpolion on October 13, 2008, 06:58:33 pm
Failure to care imminent.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 13, 2008, 07:23:52 pm
I'm interested to see how Bungie got permission from MS to do a 'somewhat' Halo game. Probably in the form of $$$$$$$

Well, if Bungie volunteered to do any more Halo, Microsoft would be all over it. They're still on good terms, and Microsoft is probably going to continue publishing many of their games.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Turey on October 13, 2008, 08:41:24 pm
Failure to care imminent.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 13, 2008, 11:15:40 pm
I know, I know. I'm sorry I enjoy Halo, I'm an uncultured buffoon. Can we just talk about it a little without too much disdain?
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Turnsky on October 13, 2008, 11:56:11 pm
Eh, Halo's fun, problem is like anything, some folks just take it a leetle too seriously.  :P
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Mongoose on October 14, 2008, 12:57:02 am
If you can excise it from the massive hype machine built around it, it's a genuinely entertaining game in its own right.  I've only ever played the original on the PC, but it would be interesting to see what else they can pull off in this universe.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Admiral_Stones on October 14, 2008, 05:50:24 am
But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG. If you want tactics, go play Raven Shield or something.
It's fun when you don't take it too serious.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Stormkeeper on October 14, 2008, 06:21:18 am
Failure to care imminent.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 14, 2008, 06:58:40 am
But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG.

Compared to a majority of RPGs Halo's story is actually fairly awesome, as it requires much less severe levels of invoking the idiot ball and the like. Certainly it has any Final Fantasy you care to name beat all to hell in that department. It's also often much more coherent.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 14, 2008, 07:05:28 am
I've seen the video, i just need to hear more about the gameplay. All in all, i will be playing this. If only for more story. :yes:
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 14, 2008, 08:11:06 am
But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG.

Compared to a majority of RPGs Halo's story is actually fairly awesome, as it requires much less severe levels of invoking the idiot ball and the like. Certainly it has any Final Fantasy you care to name beat all to hell in that department. It's also often much more coherent.

Yeah, I agree. But we really don't need another discussion on the merits of Halo.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Inquisitor on October 14, 2008, 08:50:43 am
No, we do not.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: NGTM-1R on October 14, 2008, 09:05:51 am
This is HLP, we don't let dead horses rest without giving them one last good kick.  :p
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Wobble73 on October 14, 2008, 10:54:55 am
But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG.

Compared to a majority of RPGs Halo's story is actually fairly awesome, as it requires much less severe levels of invoking the idiot ball and the like. Certainly it has any Final Fantasy you care to name beat all to hell in that department. It's also often much more coherent.

Yeah, I agree. But we really don't need another discussion on the merits of Halo.

How about the merits of Halo 3.5 (which is what this seems to be)
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: TrashMan on October 14, 2008, 11:31:41 am
This is HLP, we don't let dead horses rest without giving them one last good kick.  :p

x 1000 times.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 14, 2008, 12:55:08 pm
But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG.

Compared to a majority of RPGs Halo's story is actually fairly awesome, as it requires much less severe levels of invoking the idiot ball and the like. Certainly it has any Final Fantasy you care to name beat all to hell in that department. It's also often much more coherent.

Yeah, I agree. But we really don't need another discussion on the merits of Halo.

How about the merits of Halo 3.5 (which is what this seems to be)

Right, because it's an expansion set. This isn't a big project, just filler before their new IP.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: Mefustae on October 15, 2008, 09:06:53 am
*Cracks knuckles* I'm a total curmudgeon when it comes the pile of shattered dreams that has become of the Halo universe, so you'll excuse me for taking a few extra kicks at the deceased equine.

But that's it. It can amuse you, but if you search a good story, go play a RPG.
Compared to a majority of RPGs Halo's story is actually fairly awesome, as it requires much less severe levels of invoking the idiot ball and the like. Certainly it has any Final Fantasy you care to name beat all to hell in that department. It's also often much more coherent.
See, that's the thing, you're right and wrong here. The Halo universe is a great damn sci-fi smorgasbord of spaceships, aliens and plasma. It's a well structured, coherent and logical creation. Above all, the universe is interesting. Which is why it's such a crying shame that it was utterly wasted and smeared by the abortion that was Halo 3.

As per a previous post of mine:

Quote from: Mefustae's rant
Halo 3 really fell down in the story department. And by fell down, I mean down a disused elevator shaft. Onto several dozen bullets.

The transition from Halo to Halo 2 was relatively smooth. Master Chief escaped, Halo was destroyed. The opening cinematic picked up pretty much where the game ended. Apparently, that was too much to expect from Halo 3, which began a good while after the conclusion of Halo 2 and stoically refused to help the player fill in the gaps. Better we just do what the game tells us, and don't ask questions later.

Everything sort of spirals downward from that inauspicious beginning. Ignoring the innumerable smaller issues, the biggest problem with Halo 3's storyline was that it took itself way, way too seriously. It aimed for complex, and hit confusing. It aimed for poignant, and scored laughable. I went in at the start expecting to be blown away by new revelations and having the mysteries and complexities of Halo revealed to me. By the half-way point, I had resolved that I would be happy just to have a few loose ends tied complete with a nice ending. By the finale I had totally lost any interest I had in the storyline, I just wanted to get it over with so I could give the multiplayer a half-assed go.

If you're like me and actually felt immersed and interested in the Haloverse story by the end of Halo 2, don't bother looking any further. You'll find nothing but overwhelming disappointment. Such a promising new sci-fi universe, such a ****ing waste.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: General Battuta on October 15, 2008, 09:10:00 am
I agree that Halo 3's story was a horrible letdown. I can't help but feel that it was somehow dumbed down or neutered for the younger fans.

The announcement trailer was so spectacular, too. It was disillusioning to realize that when they rendered that trailer they didn't know where the story would be going from there -- it wasn't until later that they conceptualized the whole idea of the Ark being a distant megastructure rather than an artifact buried on Earth.
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: carbine7 on October 15, 2008, 07:12:30 pm
I too was expecting loose ends to be tied up, questions answered, and to actually 'Finish the Fight'. But no, the ending I get screams HALO 4, but will, of course, not deliver. Made it seem half-baked and rushed
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: achtung on October 16, 2008, 01:12:59 am
I particularly hate the "happily ever after"ish ending.  I want to know what happens to Human-Sangheili relations, I want to know what happens with the remnants of the covenant, among many other things.  =/
Title: Re: The next Halo, sort of
Post by: MR_T3D on October 16, 2008, 02:30:31 pm
buy the next MS console, you will have to, to find out.

or youtube it when it arrives.