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Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 04, 2002, 02:02:55 am

I am trying to decide whether or not to replace the FS2 default shockwave animations with the FS1 ones in my campaign, so I thought it might be nice to know what everyone likes.:)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Fineus on March 04, 2002, 02:28:14 am

I always liked the originals slightly more... but perhaps a comprimise might be better.. a little editing?

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 04, 2002, 09:41:50 am

I thought that the FS2 one looked nicer when I first saw it, but over the years I have begun to lean towards FS1. Looks like everyone here likes the FS1 version...:)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 04, 2002, 11:26:14 am

Just did a bit of tweaking to the FS1 shockwave color and gave it a bit of a fiery look; I am fairly satisfied with the result so I think I will use that.:)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Grey Wolf on March 04, 2002, 11:27:23 am

I have a MOD with all the shockwaves and explosions from FS1 on my site. It was made by someone called Xerxes a while back. Here it is: http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/gtdwolf/misc/fs2explo-pack.zip

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Admiral LSD on March 04, 2002, 01:56:59 pm

To be perfectly honest I found the FS1 shockwaves to be rather corny compared with their FS1 counterparts... But then again I did play FS2 (albeit the OEM version) before I ever saw shockwaves in FS1 so I'm kind of biased in that regard...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 04, 2002, 02:02:23 pm

I can't remember how the fs1 ones look like, and can'tbother opening the VP file :p
man i'm lazzy... :thepimp:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Thorn on March 04, 2002, 02:13:04 pm

Its darker blue, and its perfectly round...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Galemp on March 04, 2002, 02:43:25 pm

Whoa, freaky! I was going to post the same poll for my FS1 port. Well, I intended to post the FS1 shockwave as a download on the Extras page, but I think I'll ask permission to use that shockwave/explosion pack instead. I wish you could use the FS1 shockwaves for bombs and FS2 ones for large capship explosions.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Zeronet on March 04, 2002, 03:24:09 pm

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Originally posted by CP5670
I thought that the FS2 one looked nicer when I first saw it, but over the years I have begun to lean towards FS1. Looks like everyone here likes the FS1 version...:)

Not anymore, us FS2 are winning, because our shockwave is more evolved.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 04, 2002, 03:42:51 pm

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Originally posted by Zeronet


Not anymore, us FS2 are winning, because our shockwave is more evolved.

Looks like I supported the FS1 side :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 04, 2002, 04:33:57 pm

The FS1 explosion looks best because it actually looks 3D.  The FS2 one looks too damn flat.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 04, 2002, 09:40:51 pm

I like the "shear" effect of the FS2 one but the FS1 one looks much sharper; the FS2 one is kind of blurry IMHO.

I was fooling around with the colors for the FS1 shockwave a bit more and came up with this one; looks fairly good to me in the game.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cp5670/shock.zip

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Ulala on March 04, 2002, 09:48:21 pm

Could ya post some screens? :nod:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 04, 2002, 10:03:51 pm

Here are a few I collected:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cp5670/screen00.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cp5670/screen02.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cp5670/screen05.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cp5670/screen06.jpg

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: vadar_1 on March 04, 2002, 10:30:10 pm

The FS1 ones are just expanding circles, the fs2 ones actually have some sort of energy disturbance going on, and multiple layers. The Fs1 ones sounded cooler thou, same with the bigship subspace node in fs1, that was cool as hell.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Galemp on March 04, 2002, 10:59:27 pm

Actually, from what I've heard, Hell isn't cool at all. It's actually quite warm.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: ZylonBane on March 04, 2002, 11:49:54 pm

The perfectly circular FS1 shockwave just looked silly. Any big explosion emanating from a large complex object like a capship will be disrupted and uneven.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Kamikaze on March 05, 2002, 12:53:07 am

I kinda liked the FS1 shockwaves, don't ask me why :p

But I'll admit the FS2 ones are better eye candy, and are more realistic (?) than those circular things...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 05, 2002, 01:05:54 am

actually, perfect circles for shockwave are much more realistic.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 05, 2002, 01:36:43 am

Well, I kindal iked the FS2 one - more detailed. Varied things just look cooler in general, IMHO... but that fiery red take on the FS1 shock looks pretty cool, CP. Would look even sweeter with a bit o' fractal noise applied... In fact, I may generate an entirely new (high-res) shockwave based on that. Looks nice. :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 05, 2002, 08:44:50 am

yeah, I'm going to see if I can add that ripple effect to it.;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: ZylonBane on March 05, 2002, 09:24:49 am

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Originally posted by venom2506
actually, perfect circles for shockwave are much more realistic.

Only for a point-source explosion with nothing nearby... as is NEVER the case for exploding capships.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 05, 2002, 09:57:34 am

maybe you could use Venom's ;) :p :p

Im sneaking this one post in school ;7

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Galemp on March 05, 2002, 02:15:18 pm

Can't get to the forums in school. Stupid Gamespy address...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 05, 2002, 03:04:25 pm

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Can't get to the forums in school. Stupid Gamespy address...

3dap.com/hlp
its not too hard, I had to rember my full address so I can get to it from anywere (3dap.com/hlp/hosted/knossos)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 05, 2002, 03:45:38 pm

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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
maybe you could use Venom's ;) :p :p

Im sneaking this one post in school ;7

hey, true! I made a shockwave (two, even) :D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 05, 2002, 04:58:47 pm

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Originally posted by venom2506


hey, true! I made a shockwave (two, even) :D

but I rember you saying that you gave one to HLP, they lost it, and you deleted it :p :wink:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 05, 2002, 05:21:06 pm

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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0


but I rember you saying that you gave one to HLP, they lost it, and you deleted it :p :wink:

I found them quite some time ago, hidden in a remote folder, crying coz they were afraid of the thick darkness that fills in my HD  :sigh:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: ZylonBane on March 05, 2002, 06:07:46 pm

You want to see some REAL high-yield spherical shockwaves?

http://fas.org/nuke/hew/Usa/Tests/Hardtack2.html

http://fas.org/nuke/hew/Usa/Tests/Tumblers.html

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: vadar_1 on March 05, 2002, 08:02:34 pm

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Can't get to the forums in school. Stupid Gamespy address...

We had filtering once, but I ran through a virtual proxy under a thousand or so rotating false IPs, so the filter couldn't block sites unless the ip who sent the request came from the school's list of network IPs.

Well anyways, I never use school compter anymore :eek:

I swear people piss in the keyboards

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Ulala on March 05, 2002, 08:44:47 pm

Ewwwwwwww.

Oh and very nice shockwaves CP. :nod: :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Grey Wolf on March 05, 2002, 09:09:06 pm

Interestingly enough, my school blocks the main page but I can get to the forums just fine.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Corsair on March 06, 2002, 05:47:52 pm

I get on from school just fine...:D
Whenever I post between 12:05 and 1:50 (GMT -5 hours) then you know I'm in history class ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 06, 2002, 08:07:55 pm

Ditto, I post in school sometimes. Someone blocks our main page? Cool. We're contraband. :D

Mmmmmmexplosions... Nice one, ZB...

(http://fas.org/nuke/hew/Usa/Tests/Ht2socorro1.jpg)

(http://fas.org/nuke/hew/Usa/Tests/Tscharli1.jpg)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 06, 2002, 08:20:57 pm

kindda creepy if you ask me :p

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 06, 2002, 08:37:31 pm

It's a bit depressing when you realise there's enough destructive power in the world to destroy... well, all life on Earth and then some...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Ulala on March 06, 2002, 08:52:23 pm

Yeah, makes you wonder if thats the way this world is gonna go out... nuclear winter..... *shudder*

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: ZylonBane on March 06, 2002, 11:12:16 pm

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Originally posted by Setekh
It's a bit depressing when you realise there's enough destructive power in the world to destroy... well, all life on Earth and then some...

Well look on the bright side... think of all the stupid people that would die.  :D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: WMCoolmon on March 07, 2002, 12:09:54 am

But then there would be no more HLP Forums :(
Or Freespace!!!!! :eek:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Kamikaze on March 07, 2002, 12:11:49 am

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Well look on the bright side... think of all the stupid people that would die.  :D

Am I the only one thinking that's more pessimistic than bright? ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Nico on March 07, 2002, 01:09:46 am

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Originally posted by Setekh
It's a bit depressing when you realise there's enough destructive power in the world to destroy... well, all life on Earth and then some...

yeah, but the strange thing is... look at those pics... ok, this is huge, no question... but even with a thousand fo that, do you really imagine that little thing big like a dust next to the planet, reapping everything from the planet?
Huh,, I can already see all the big brains yelling at me and explaining me stuffs and others: no need, I know what it does and all, it was just a personal thought :p

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 07, 2002, 02:14:43 am

lol, my brother sometimes goes to this website where they have images and movies of big explosions; I need to ask him what the address of that is...

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Well look on the bright side... think of all the stupid people that would die. :D

That is an interesting way of putting it; you're right though.:D

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Oh and very nice shockwaves CP. :nod: :)

thanks.:) I'm actually not perfectly satisfied with them though; I am going to try and add the ripple effect that appears on the FS2 version. I started with the FS1 shockwave as a template though because the FS2 one is too blurry for my tastes, although I might be able to sharpen it up a bit.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 08, 2002, 06:36:43 am

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Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, but the strange thing is... look at those pics... ok, this is huge, no question... but even with a thousand fo that, do you really imagine that little thing big like a dust next to the planet, reapping everything from the planet?

I suppose so... but when you think of how big the world is, you think of how big the solar system is, and the galaxy, and the universe... then suddenly everything seems so small... :o

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 08, 2002, 07:23:26 am

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I suppose so... but when you think of how big the world is, you think of how big the solar system is, and the galaxy, and the universe... then suddenly everything seems so small... :o

lol, that's why I never think of absolute size but rather of relative size...;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Ace on March 08, 2002, 09:54:47 am

Same here, the school has the main HLP site blocked out since it's at 3d Action Planet. At least my personal site and VWatch aren't blocked out because they're occult! ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: USS Alexander on March 08, 2002, 09:56:24 am

Talking about shockwaves how about this one:)http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,5544.0.html

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 08, 2002, 11:57:51 am

Ah, I like that one. It's a bit blurry but looks good otherwise. Mine is similar but has a fire-like color to it.;)

Regarding the school thing, my school has a filtering system but it is extremely easy to bypass it. They have designed it so that Internet Explorer blocks all attempts to load anything with "http://" except for the bookmarked sites, but people simply type in the address without the http and it works fine. :D Heck, this one guy who was in my C++ class downloaded Max Payne from some BAD site using the school T1, put the contents of the download on four or five zip disks, and took it home.:D (teacher was out of the room and did not notice) Another time, our class happened to be a few days ahead of the other classes and there was going to be a substitute teacher for a few days, and he said that we could do whatever we wanted to. One guy installed Quake 3 on some of the computers and we had a bit of a LAN party for two class periods. (from which I emerged as the winner!!:D:D) I am out of school at the moment though (doing various independent study projects), so it doesn't really matter anymore.;)

Edit by Setekh: BAD site highlighted. ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 08, 2002, 05:27:04 pm

That's better... :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 08, 2002, 09:35:06 pm

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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
But then there would be no more HLP Forums :(
Or Freespace!!!!! :eek:

Nah, HLP and FS will be floating particals in space, all you have to do is redeem them an put them back togeather :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 08, 2002, 09:53:11 pm

Anyone who can't crack their school's incompetent security systems from within doesn't deserve anything above a 486 with a 56k modem and DOS. Barring large schools and technical colleges, of course.:D

Never seen the FS1 explosion, so I'll take a guess at 2.:D

Posting pics would be nice.

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Grey Wolf on March 08, 2002, 10:06:41 pm

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Anyone who can't crack their school's incompetent security systems from within doesn't deserve anything above a 486 with a 56k modem and DOS.

Too much time. Too high of a risk factor for the possible outcomes. I like to stay away from the school computers anyway. They run Windows 95!

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 08, 2002, 10:09:06 pm

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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Too much time. Too high of a risk factor for the possible outcomes. I like to stay away from the school computers anyway. They run Windows 95!

I found 95 to be better then 98 at times, but my school uses worse... evil user hating IMacs
but lucky for me I was in tech ed, they use Dells with 98 :D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 08, 2002, 10:22:30 pm

NT.:rolleyes:

And thay've got the ****ers locked up like a fortress. They're so bad at it to, all the security protocols conflict and make it so that you can hardly use any programs and can't save a file except in certain places, but can go in and tinker with some of the core settings. Everything's run off of a central computer, whose location is known only to the resident tech guy, and aside from everyone being essentially unable to use a computer without him there to supply passwords and tinker with the central computer, he can spy on what any comp is doing at any time. It's not a piece of cake, but I've cracked one of the computers. It was strangely unrewarding, and yet tantalizingly dissapointing.:D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 08, 2002, 10:34:51 pm

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
NT.:rolleyes:

And thay've got the ****ers locked up like a fortress. They're so bad at it to, all the security protocols conflict and make it so that you can hardly use any programs and can't save a file except in certain places, but can go in and tinker with some of the core settings. Everything's run off of a central computer, whose location is known only to the resident tech guy, and aside from everyone being essentially unable to use a computer without him there to supply passwords and tinker with the central computer, he can spy on what any comp is doing at any time. It's not a piece of cake, but I've cracked one of the computers. It was strangely unrewarding, and yet tantalizingly dissapointing.:D

Hell I could crack the securty easy, just use the infumus Crtl Alt Del, I know that that would work, but I dont relly care about doing it since I never had a use for it, but I can still get to the HLP with no porblem, but I think I created a harable off topic now just becasue  Iwas bored at 10:30 AM :sigh:

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Ulala on March 08, 2002, 10:35:15 pm

Speaking of school computers, one time some guy at my school slipped a rather large magnet into the inside of the case of the server computer in the lab. Lol... the entire lab lost connection to everything... good thing whoever did it didnt get a magnet into the office. Anyway, thats the exciting news around here for awhile. ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Stryke 9 on March 08, 2002, 10:39:22 pm

I swear- those magnetic earrings with the rare earth magnets were created specifically for tactical sabotage.:D

Small, easily concealed, more devastating than a sledgehammer. OK, just a regular hammer, but still...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 08, 2002, 10:43:38 pm

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Originally posted by Stryke 9
I swear- those magnetic earrings with the rare earth magnets were created specifically for tactical sabotage.:D

That is what the next computer terroist group will be based on ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Vertigo1 on March 09, 2002, 12:19:32 am

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Originally posted by Ulala
Speaking of school computers, one time some guy at my school slipped a rather large magnet into the inside of the case of the server computer in the lab. Lol... the entire lab lost connection to everything... good thing whoever did it didnt get a magnet into the office. Anyway, thats the exciting news around here for awhile. ;)

LOL

Bet they had a time figuring that problem out. :p

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 09, 2002, 01:02:11 am

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Originally posted by MD-2389


LOL

Bet they had a time figuring that problem out. :p

They are probely still figuring it out :p ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Rampage on March 09, 2002, 08:47:05 am

You kids have too much time on your hands!  I like the FS2 shockwave better since it is more advanced.:D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: CP5670 on March 09, 2002, 12:16:43 pm

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Edit by Setekh: BAD site highlighted. ;)

Sorry about that.:o

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 13, 2002, 01:25:31 am

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Originally posted by CP5670
Sorry about that.:o

Quite alright. Just try not to do it again. :)

In other news, I had a few minutes (literally, a few minutes) spare and I thought I'd have a go at that animated high-res shockwave. I made a mistake with the function, and this is what I came up with...

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/braincycle_small.gif)

Oops... :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 13, 2002, 01:34:59 am

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Originally posted by Setekh


Quite alright. Just try not to do it again. :)

In other news, I had a few minutes (literally, a few minutes) spare and I thought I'd have a go at that animated high-res shockwave. I made a mistake with the function, and this is what I came up with...

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/staff/setekh/braincycle_small.gif)

Oops... :)

Space Crack!!!
(http://www.forumplanet.com/iconcommon/planetannihilationforums_20010901_015502/sets/smile/ubercrack.gif)  (http://www.forumplanet.com/iconcommon/planetannihilationforums_20010901_015502/sets/smile/ubercrack.gif)  (http://www.forumplanet.com/iconcommon/planetannihilationforums_20010901_015502/sets/smile/ubercrack.gif)  ;)
And dont get confused by the URL, I made it, but  I was too lazy to upload it since Planet A alredy had it on their bored thanks to Drako ;)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 13, 2002, 02:53:20 am

Heh, didn't even think of that; it reminded me of a colour-cycling fractal. They're cool. :)

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 13, 2002, 03:07:47 am

You should rember to add that one, it may prove useful, and I have more...

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Setekh on March 13, 2002, 04:03:14 am

Nah, it's too big. If people want it, they can go to the trouble of linking it from here. :D

Title: Which shockwave is better?
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 13, 2002, 05:40:10 am

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Originally posted by Setekh
Nah, it's too big. If people want it, they can go to the trouble of linking it from here. :D

Now I must nuke you (http://3dap.com/hlp/hosted/knossos/antilol_nuke.gif)  :p :p