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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Havner on October 16, 2008, 03:34:36 pm
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As topis says. It always bothered me what purpose they serve? They were never needed in fs2_open, but how official binary used them?
Two big game_dat1.set, game_dat2.set files inside.
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You mean Tango1, 2 and 3? They store all command briefing ANIs needed. There are three files because the main campaign is divided in three parts. :)
EDIT: 7,777th post! This is called the ALL SEVEN FEVER!!! :D :D :D
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No, I meant tangoA and tangoB. Tangos 1-3 I know what they are for. When you install the game from CD's there are tangoA and B installed as well.
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My FS2 has been installed from CDs and I don't have the files you mentioned.
Maybe they're part of the demo package? I removed it over 2 years ago and I don't remember what kind of VP files it had.
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My FS2 has been installed from CDs and I don't have the files you mentioned.
Look inside data2 and data3 dirs. I've just made an install, 3CD version. They are there.
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I don't have any data2 or data3 subfolders in my FS2 main folder and it should be this way.
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I don't have any data2 or data3 subfolders in my FS2 main folder and it should be this way.
Because you removed them long time ago (or never had if downloaded VPs from net). I'm talking about original freespace2, not about what you prepare to get fs2_open working.
Fact is, with original 3CD install you get those files, whatever you say wont change it.
Now, anyone know what they are for?
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Maybe they were an easy way to use minor mods(changing data's name to data2 and data2's name to data should've been enough to switch minor mods).
I don't know what the two set files are for...
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Maybe they were an easy way to use minor mods(changing data's name to data2 and data2's name to data should've been enough to switch minor mods).
data2 and data3 dirs were equivalent to cd2 and cd3 content I suppose, not used to mod switching. But it doesn't matter where you put those files, it's their purpose that bothers me, like I said, those vp had two files insiade:
game_dat2.set (25MB)
game_dat1.set (84MB)
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What does the "set" extension stand for?
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What does the "set" extension stand for?
You ask me? :-)
Whatever Volition inveted back then. Extention doesn't define the file, it may describe it at best, so it doesn't really matter. Can be anything.
Found this thread now (don't know how I missed it first time).
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,28074.0.html
But still noone knows
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I guess the only way to find out for sure would be to look at the retail code, which we've got a copy of. Although, I could swear I've run retail without those files before.
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I don't have any data2 or data3 subfolders in my FS2 main folder and it should be this way.
Because you removed them long time ago (or never had if downloaded VPs from net). I'm talking about original freespace2, not about what you prepare to get fs2_open working.
Fact is, with original 3CD install you get those files, whatever you say wont change it.
You came to us asking about something, don't tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Chances are we do.
No, I meant tangoA and tangoB. Tangos 1-3 I know what they are for. When you install the game from CD's there are tangoA and B installed as well.
No, those files are not installed. You would have had to manually copy them from the CD for them to be in your FS2 install directory.
Sorry I can't be more help.
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They are some kind of retail files. People have succesfully played the game with them and without them.
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Still...what is their purpose. They're pretty huge...they have to do something other than eat up disk space.
Also...if it comes with the HOTU version...and are sometimes installed...its slightly strange.
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Tried looking at them under a hex editor?
Tried opening them with Notepad?
Perhaps there's something in there you can read in plain text that would give
you a clue to the contents.
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Does it have anything to do with 162? :nervous:
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*throws tomato*
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Also...if it comes with the HOTU version...
The point being that it doesn't. At least it didn't when I downloaded from HotU.
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Ah ... a mystery!
If its allowed, could you zip up the .vps and post it up here? I want to have a look at them for myself.
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Never seen 'em, never needed 'em.
Bought my (UK) copy of Retail FS2 in 2003 - no demo or other stuff included.
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I sense much confusion.
The original big box Retail FS2 CDs do indeed include a pair of files called tangoA_fs2.vp and tangoB_fs2.vp on CDs 2 and 3 respectively. These are absolutely not needed to play with the game and were not included in the last HotU build (and I should know since I built it :D )
I have absolutely no idea what they are for though.
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Has anyone... I dunno... opened them??
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Maybe they're like one of those April Fool's packages with nothing valuable inside... :doubt:
:lols:
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Has anyone... I dunno... opened them??
Will do... Stay tuned.
EDIT - Hmm... TangoA_fs2.vp seems to contain only 1 file, game_dat2.set. Anyone know how to open this file? Attempts with Notepad have failed.
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Has anyone... I dunno... opened them??
Will do... Stay tuned.
:eek2: You wouldn't... You're taking away the mystery. The excitement.
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:eek2: You wouldn't... You're taking away the mystery. The excitement.
I have.
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Has anyone... I dunno... opened them??
But it doesn't matter where you put those files, it's their purpose that bothers me, like I said, those vp had two files insiade:
game_dat2.set (25MB)
game_dat1.set (84MB)
No idea what they do.
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after some mucking about, the closest i have found is that it just might be some kind of a backup of something. .set extension is used by some ancient backup utility on win98.
also, it was created 2 or 4 days before the cbanis in the tango1_fs2.vp (forgot the dates that vpview spewed out.)
hex editors yielded so much fricking text that i gave up on that path aaand.... dunno. i'll try grep next but i doubt anything will come out...
time to get creative.
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I'd muck around, but I don't have the files.
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I always wondered why a game with just over a gig of data would require 3 80min CD's. Figured it was part of the copy protection scheme to fill up the disks so you would need a burner and software capable of duplicating them which I don't thing was mainstream back when FS2 came out.
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1) The movies, which took up several hundred MB on their own, stayed on the CDs.
2) The tango and warble VPs had to be on every CD, since if the player only did a minimal install, the media needed to be present no matter which CD was in the drive.
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I can confirm that tangoA and tangoB are not installed with the GOTY Edition 3CD set, nor are data2 and data3 folders created.