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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Water on October 27, 2008, 04:54:36 am
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One slightly used great war relic ;)
http://files.filefront.com/ValkyrieHTLzip/;12172829;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/ValkyrieHTLzip/;12172829;/fileinfo.html)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee67/waternz/v-done.jpg)
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Good god, now if only the Apollo was high(er) polyed again...
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Vewy vewy nice :)
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One of the best fighters of FS1 has finally entered the new millenium.
Many thanks.
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<nitpick>
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/2180/htlvalkyriecockpitproblgq5.png)
It looks like the cockpit glass does not perfectly match to the spar in the middle, you can kinda see "past" it into the cockpit from both ahead and from behind, though the frontal view is by far easier to see.
It isn't very visible problem but a problem it is nevertheless...
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ಥ_ಥ Beautiful... It looks... magnificent. One of my very favourite FreeSpace ships ever, and now it looks the part as well. Many thanks. :)
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Looks lovely, and well done on the AO shading too - that works brilliantly. :D
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Pleeeeeeease mirror it!
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K (http://koti.mbnet.fi/reiler/FunkyFreeSpaceStuff/ValkyrieHTL.zip). Temporarily.
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Thanks
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Ohh looks really nice :D
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That's ironic, me and galemp were just talking the other day about how we wanted it for our own various uses... In any case, :yes:
Edit: VA is right about that glass...
Edit2: Replace VA with Herra :p
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No I'm not. :p
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Indeed. Herra Tohtori, the man with the undisputed Hi-Fi Eye, is right about that glass.
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No I'm not. :p
...*facepalm*
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Pretty :yes:
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All I can say is:
1) Wow...impressive!!! :D
and
2) That is going to be used in INFA and NTV!!! ;)
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Is va still going to do his? no offense water, I like his better. just a style more suited to my tastes.
doesn't mean I don't like this yours, BTW very well done! better than anything I could come up with.
*downloading now*
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Wait a sec, is there another HTL Valkyrie? I must have missed it...I know a cockpitted version used in INFA, but nothing more...
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yeah but it's not done yet.
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VA was doing one also.
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*facepalm*
So we have two alternate HTL Valkyries? How's the other one?
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*facepalm*
So we have two alternate HTL Valkyries? How's the other one?
VA's one is still incomplete.
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NTV and INFA definitely need a HTL Valkyirie...the problem is, which one? :nervous:
EDIT: Maybe VA can turn his Valk into a HTL Angel?
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This is the most beautiful one I've seen and it's going into the Port MVP.
Not to mention it's the only one that's actually finished.
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Is the other one promising?
Now that I think of it those two alternate HTL Valkyries remind me of BtRL and Diaspora... :nervous:
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The one that's done automatically wins until the other one is done too.
No need to worry about it yet.
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EDIT: Maybe VA can turn his Valk into a HTL Angel?
We already have a HTL Angel. And the HTL Angel is based on VA's Valk anyway...
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Meh, you could have two versions from different subcontractors. Fighter planes have a looong history of havign a lot of different versions of same basic model; aside from worrying about exceeding the supported number of ships there's no reason not to have them both.
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Yes but you can't have two different Valkyries in the FreeSpace Port, I think.
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Maybe VC can make his an SOC Valkyrie? Like the Ezechiel I'm working on. There is currently a GTF and SOC version. Plus, Fighters and Bombers throughout history have always been and always will be upgraded. He can even make an Mk 1a or Mk II. I like having 31 flavors to choose from in ice cream, why not here? ;)
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I know but FreeSpace doesn't allow minor upgrades without a new table entry. What would VA's Valk be, a GTF Valkyrie+?
What I don't like is that this sort of "accidents" occur...two modellers work on the same ship and provide the community with two different versions of it while there are many ships in need of upgrades, like the Arcadia and the Colossus... :(
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Ragingloli did a High Poly Colossus and a High Poly Arcadia...donno what happened to those.
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What I don't like is that this sort of "accidents" occur...two modellers work on the same ship and provide the community with two different versions of it while there are many ships in need of upgrades, like the Arcadia and the Colossus... :(
Stop that, you'll inspire someone to start working on them.
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTI-Arcadia-82332784
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTVA-Colossus-80949861
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Get those 2 in-game!
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Now if only someoe would make a decent angel... It's not that the current one looks bad, i just hate it's effin design!
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Thanks for all the comments :)
<nitpick>It isn't very visible problem but a problem it is nevertheless...</nitpick>
ಥ_ಥ Beautiful... It looks... magnificent. One of my very favourite FreeSpace ships ever, and now it looks the part as well. Many thanks. :)
Never would have found that. ;) In Blender I hide the glass object, and in the lab couldn't spot it. I'll fix it, but will wait for any other errors.
A thanks to Galemp for pushing for a bit more curves, the remaining balance of boxy and curves works really well.
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Now finish the GTCv Moscow :P
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Never would have found that. ;) In Blender I hide the glass object, and in the lab couldn't spot it. I'll fix it, but will wait for any other errors.
Glad to be of assistance! ;7
Well, if you want more suggestions, include .ibx and .tsb cache files for the model in the next upload.
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Hey wait, whatever happened to PLs valk? we have 3 or 4 valks then, apparently
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we should have them all dogfight, and the winner goes into the media VPs. :D
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I won't be turning mine into a SOC version (they didn't exist back then anyway), Angel or any other Valkyrie variant. It'll simply be my HTL interpretation of one of my favourite FS1 fighters.
We can figure out which version goes where when mine is finished (which won't be for a while due to more pressing projects), but not now and not in Water's release thread. ;)
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Good luck on yours! :) :yes:
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What I don't like is that this sort of "accidents" occur...two modellers work on the same ship and provide the community with two different versions of it while there are many ships in need of upgrades, like the Arcadia and the Colossus... :(
Stop that, you'll inspire someone to start working on them.
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTI-Arcadia-82332784
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTVA-Colossus-80949861
I think the community would LIKE someone to be inspired to make those ingame.
As well as the Sathanas.
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Yes, to get those in game.
But not to waste time making others, which would be exactly what Mobius said is NOT GOOD to begin with (two modellers working on the same ship and providing the community with two different versions of it).
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Stop that, you'll inspire someone to start working on them.
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTI-Arcadia-82332784
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTVA-Colossus-80949861
Nice models you got there, how much time did it took you to get those done?, they look really really nice.
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Very nice work on the Valkyrie there, Water :)
My only complaint is that the shinemap doesn't seem, well ... shiny enough to me. Just my opinion...
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Very nice work on the Valkyrie there, Water :)
My only complaint is that the shinemap doesn't seem, well ... shiny enough to me. Just my opinion...
Yeah, it is lacking in the shine department, well the lighter colour anyway. It was lower, but it killed the normal map too much. :nervous:
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How did you do the shine map? If its killing the normal map too much try putting the height map in overlay mode in the shine map. The darker areas will remain darker that way, so it should preserve the normal map's detail
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How did you do the shine map? If its killing the normal map too much try putting the height map in overlay mode in the shine map. The darker areas will remain darker that way, so it should preserve the normal map's detail
It seemed to me that too little shine reduced the normal maps spread between dark and light. Mainly the normal map line work on the wings.
The darks (lines) were fine. It may be that I'm describing it badly. It requires a certain amount of panel shine to show those dark lines up properly. Higher specular means greater contrast between the darks and lights. Turning down the specular too much does have a visual cost.
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It seemed to me that too little shine reduced the normal maps spread between dark and light.
Wait a sec...
Blowfish is saying that the shinemap is too dark, if I interpret him correctly... and I kinda agree. It looks a tad bit dark when compared to other ships.
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Yeah, that was what I was saying.
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Yeah I had the same impression too, and from the screenshots I must say I agree
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I'm not sure what I did wrong, but the Valkyrie doesn't have a cockpit.
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I'm not sure what I did wrong, but the Valkyrie doesn't have a cockpit.
I didn't pack Tercoc01.dds in the zip. The pilot texture. If you can't locate a copy in mvp or elsewhere I'll send you one.
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Stop that, you'll inspire someone to start working on them.
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTI-Arcadia-82332784
http://ragingloli.deviantart.com/art/GTVA-Colossus-80949861
Nice models you got there, how much time did it took you to get those done?, they look really really nice.
Councilor created a Sathanas model but he doesn't know how to get it ingame...doing that should be easier than creating a nice HTL model from, uh, "scratch" simply because the model is already there and most part of the job is done. :)
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I'm not sure what I did wrong, but the Valkyrie doesn't have a cockpit.
I'd appreciate it. :)
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:wtf: There is no reason why it shouldn't have a cockpit, unless for some reason you don't have the mediavps enabled.
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Well, I dumped it to the fsport folder. I haven't changed the media vps in there. I downloaded the files from the open installer.
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I'll revisit the shine map the weekend after.
I'm not sure what I did wrong, but the Valkyrie doesn't have a cockpit.
Here it is http://files.filefront.com/Tercoc01zip/;12208441;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/Tercoc01zip/;12208441;/fileinfo.html)
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Those models exist? Did I miss a memo or something, more importantly did anyone CONTACT that author yet?
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We have the Colossus. AFAIK nobody has the Arcadia.
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You thought wrong./me goes back into the shadows
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Great job Water :yes: :yes:
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I'll revisit the shine map the weekend after.
I'm not sure what I did wrong, but the Valkyrie doesn't have a cockpit.
Here it is http://files.filefront.com/Tercoc01zip/;12208441;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/Tercoc01zip/;12208441;/fileinfo.html)
Thanks. That fixed it. :)
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The mass is one order of magnitude too large. Although it's a simple fix, I thought I'd let you know.
I first noticed it when I was playing Another Great War and one of these beauts smacked into the Comms Station in Failure to Communicate. The Imhotep went far!
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Alright, I guess I should take note of this. Both for INFA and NTV.
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The mass is one order of magnitude too large. Although it's a simple fix, I thought I'd let you know.
I first noticed it when I was playing Another Great War and one of these beauts smacked into the Comms Station in Failure to Communicate. The Imhotep went far!
Thanks, I didn't spot the difference.
PCS2 auto generated the mass and the MOI. I'll get the mass sorted
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Having some trouble getting the valkyrieHTL in game. I put the four .dds files into my FSPort/Maps folder and the one .pof file into FSPort/Models folder but I'm still getting the old not HTL Valkyrie in game. Anyone else having this problem?
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Having some trouble getting the valkyrieHTL in game. I put the four .dds files into my FSPort/Maps folder and the one .pof file into FSPort/Models folder but I'm still getting the old not HTL Valkyrie in game. Anyone else having this problem?
The older one is fighter05.pof the new Valkyrie.pof, so you would need to change that in the table.
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The older one is fighter05.pof the new Valkyrie.pof, so you would need to change that in the table.
...Isn't it easier to rename the model to Valkyrie.pof? :nervous: That's what I did.
Of course, including a modular table with stuff like this might be good practice. ;)
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...Isn't it easier to rename the model to Valkyrie.pof? :nervous: That's what I did.
Of course, including a modular table with stuff like this might be good practice. ;)
That's probably the easier solution :drevil:
As for modular tables, stopped using them for a while as they didn't work for me ( Didn't notice the ship limit :nervous: - sorted now ;) )
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You mean rename the model to fighter05.pof.
I originally did this, but when it didn't work I used a modular table. I then found I had put fighter04.pof instead - the Apollo!
(For some reason, as I looked at 'Apollo' here, I thought 'GTF Apollo - sounds odd!' No idea why.)
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You mean rename the model to fighter05.pof.
(For some reason, as I looked at 'Apollo' here, I thought 'GTF Apollo - sounds odd!' No idea why.)
Umm yes :D There sould be a updated version this weekend. Last weekend sorted a cpu heatsink problem *and* a stuck power supply fan.
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I know I'm probably reviving a dead thread, but can any one provide me with a clear easy to understand method of replacing the old version and put this one in it's place?
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I know I'm probably reviving a dead thread, but can any one provide me with a clear easy to understand method of replacing the old version and put this one in it's place?
Rename the pof to fighter05.pof and put in data\models. The dds textures go in data\maps
Both of those would need to be in the FSport directory.
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I have a data folder in fsport, but no model or maps folder, just cache.
Please advise.
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Create them.
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It works perfectly, thank you.
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sorry to put this up.....but water did such a great job with this model i just have to congrat you.... :yes:
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Where'd you come from?
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i was prisoned by some damn shivans. they wanted to play golf with me every day.....jesus....that was hell.....
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It is good to see you back. :yes:
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The past, duh.
But does he bring gifts?
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patience ;-)
first of all i have to make all szenes new, because of this great gift from water ;)
kudos
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Holy snap! Wow. :)
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sorry to put this up.....but water did such a great job with this model i just have to congrat you.... :yes:
Ta ;)
Nice to see you back
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patience ;-)
first of all i have to make all szenes new, because of this great gift from water ;)
kudos
hey wait...where did you get these nice thrusters? They aren't the default MV ones, are they?
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That's a render.