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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Colonol Dekker on November 02, 2008, 12:59:15 pm
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Whoop whoop. Youngest ever winner, didn't see it but congrats for the win.
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Did he? Cool.
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Who the hell is Lewis Hamilto- Wait, stop, don't care.
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He won because Timo Glock in the last 5 secs of the race slowed down(possibly due to a temporary malfunction). Damn, I was so happy at the end because Vettel was seriously compromising Hamilton's race but, urgh...the last 5 seconds turned the tide of the Championship... :blah:
At least the Ferrari won the Constructor championship, that's the most important one... ;7
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I'm frustrated that Robert Kubica got knocked out of the top 3. He is now 4th tied in points with Raikonnen but having won one less race. It's all BMW Saubers fault for managing the team badly in the last one.
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Speaking of teams' faults Massa could have cared less about the GP of Brasil had the team planned a few things in a better way during the Championship. He would have easily been 20 points ahead of Hamilton before the last GP. I really respect Robert Kubica(his Italian is quite good, he spent many years here :D) but that's how things work in F1 - if two pilots have the same amount of points the one with the highest number of victories takes the contested place.
I hope the fact that this time a Ferrari pilot didn't win the Championship will lead Red technicians to work hard on reliability. Ferrari lost what, 40+ points during the Championship due to malfunctions? Each pilot lost 20 or so points. Everyone knows the Ferrari has enough potential to win both Championships a few GPs before the Brasilian one by outrunning any rival...the point is that so many malfunctions prevent it from happening. :mad:
One clear example: the GP of Hungary. I've never seen anything like it, a Red has a malfunction 2 laps before the end. 10 missed points. :blah:
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Hamilton won? Great!
Now, let's get on with life. :drevil:
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Drive a flashy car around really, really fast. Win something so that everyone thinks you're great. Get loads of money. Top it off by going home with the lead singer of the Pussycat Dolls...
Damn, that kid had one hell of a good weekend. Certainly beats doing DIY.
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I just read about how Hamilton won, and you have to admit that he and McLaren-Mercedes were housing Lady Luck at that time. 400m was so close.
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Yep, the fates / karma / destiny all played their part........
in other words, lucky git :D still it was a fine race from what i saw. Maybe he's the stig?
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I beg to differ, unless he can match, second-for-second, The Stig's lap record around the Top Gear track under the same weather conditions.
I liked the way he did the track. Jeremy Clarkson was wondering how he could do such a fast lap WHILE SINGING. You have seen that video, haven't you, Colonel?
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Drive a flashy car around really, really fast. Win something so that everyone thinks you're great. Get loads of money. Top it off by going home with the lead singer of the Pussycat Dolls...
Damn, that kid had one hell of a good weekend. Certainly beats doing DIY.
This guy (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3366564/Fan-could-pocket-125000-from-Lewis-Hamilton-triumph.html) had one almost as good though. :D
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I beg to differ, unless he can match, second-for-second, The Stig's lap record around the Top Gear track under the same weather conditions.
I liked the way he did the track. Jeremy Clarkson was wondering how he could do such a fast lap WHILE SINGING. You have seen that video, haven't you, Colonel?
I'm still getting over the clarkson prostitute comment from the last show to be honest :lol:
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Yeah well. That's what makes him so likeable. My writing and speech styles have been influenced by him over the past year, and I own two of his books. :D
BBC Two's not a channel available in Singapore, so I get my kicks from YouTube, which is good enough for me at the moment.
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Hamilton wasn't actually lucky, it was an excellent tactical decision from McLaren. At first I thought he was but I later realised that had Glock changed to tyres that would have allowed him to drive faster than he could run, he would have come out behind Hamilton anyway, the ridiculous allegations that Glock cheated are totally unfounded, as Jarno Trulli posted an almost identical lap time when he was in the same car on the same tyres. Well done McLaren, well done Hamilton.
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Don't talk about a single race, please note that there was a Championship.
When Kimi Raikkonen won the Championship in 2007 the difference between him and Lewis Hamilton was 1 point, the same difference between Massa and Hamilton in this Championship. Back in 2007 not everyone agreed on considering Raikkonen the best and he kept his status of "Meh Champion". One point is nothing, guys.
I'm amazed of the fact that Hamilton is now considered the best. This statement is questionable.
- First two GPs of the Championship: Massa got 0 points.
- GP of Hungary: Massa leads the race and experiences a malfunction 2-3 minutes from the end. Kovalainen wins the race.
- GP of Singapore(God damn Snail!!!): Massa leads the race and experiences a major problem upon refuelling, thus compromising the whole race.
With a rought estimate we can say that Massa lost 25+ points to issues that have nothing to do with his skills.
- Lewis Hamilton, upon refuelling and for strange reasons, hits Raikkonen. Both pilots abandon the race. Raikkonen was performing well while Hamilton wasn't going to get a high number of points. Lewis gets a well deserved penalty for the accident.
Overall Lewis Hamilton lost 2-4 potential points.
At the end of the Championship, no matter of what, Massa ends with 97 points and Hamilton with 98. One point of difference. By analyzing what I posted above it's pretty obvious to claim that Massa performed well and deserved to win the Championship. It didn't happen but he's surely going to have more luck in the future. I have great hopes.
It's pretty absurd to ignore pilots like Vettel, Alonso and Kubica. They had no Ferrari or McLaren to speak of and got extraordinary results...Personally, I consider Alonso the best pilot in circulation. They didn't have a chance of winning the Championship simply because their cars weren't top notch ones.
Seriously, let Hamilton drive a Force India and tell me if you can still consider him the best. Pilots usually start with second/third class teams and end up their careers with Ferrari and/or McLaren. Hamilton started with the McLaren and for this reasons, unlike the most, he had a chance of winning the Championship.
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Hamilton started with the McLaren and for this reasons, unlike the most, he had a chance of winning the Championship.
And McClaren decided to hire this unknown why?
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Hamilton started with the McLaren and for this reasons, unlike the most, he had a chance of winning the Championship.
And McClaren decided to hire this unknown why?
they asked an 8-ball?
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maybe this unknown international carting champion wasnt so unknown and at the end of the day a ferrari is just a fiat while a mclaren is a mercedes....
and 1point is 1 point
lifes tough at the top
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Hamilton started with the McLaren and for this reasons, unlike the most, he had a chance of winning the Championship.
And McClaren decided to hire this unknown why?
I don't think McLaren hired him on their own. It seems that Hamilton came to them because they have a car that he wants. :nervous:
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And my point is, why didn't they just say "Who the hell are you? Get out!"
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He's a bit of a prodigy in the way Colin Macrae was.... i suppose they saw something in his track record (no pun) that they liked.
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Well, considering that it takes A_WHILE to even work for an F1 team...
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It takes A_WHILE to earn global recognition too.
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:lol:
Yeah well, it happens. If everyone was famous, fame would be like your name.
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Ahh well, maybe schumacher next time ;)
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Lewis Hamilton has been sponsored by Mclaren throughout his career, since he was about 10-13 yrs old. Ron Dennis has always known the lad had talent. In other words, he didn't approach Mclaren, they approached him.
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It's certainly the year for people who look like Obama...
:nervous:
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It's certainly the year for people who look like Obama...
:nervous:
:wakka:
That's a very straight way of putting it, but yeah.
Notice that the last F1 race for this season came very close to the end of the 2008 USA Presidential Elections. I read that Hamilton won, so I went, "Now, if only Obama wins..." :drevil:
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(http://www.nilacharal.com/enter/celeb/images/LewisHamilton.jpg)(http://whoisbarackobama.name/who-is-barack-obama.jpg)
The thing about Lewis Hamilton is that he does look like Obama ;) Maybe 10 years younger, but the face structure is almost identical, only difference is that Lewis, oddly enough, has less hair, could be something to do with the speeds he usually travels at ;)
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Hitman style cloning project to slowly take over the world mayhaps? :nervous:
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:lol: The Obamageddon ;)
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:lol: The Obamageddon ;)
:lol: You should copyright that quickly........
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My sister was telling me how much her junior college form teacher resembled Obama...
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Took me until reading Sports Illustrated this morning to figure out who the hell you were talking about in here. :p
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Wow, where have you been, Mongoose? :drevil:
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Right here. I can count on no hands the number of F1 races I've seen, and my desire to seek one out is equally negligible. :p
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Lewis Hamilton has been sponsored by Mclaren throughout his career, since he was about 10-13 yrs old. Ron Dennis has always known the lad had talent. In other words, he didn't approach Mclaren, they approached him.
Exactly. Hamilton is a McLaren pilot simply because he's British, like the McLaren team...I would have ended up in another team with poor chances of winning the Championship.
Both Lewis Hamilton and Timo Glock won the GP2 Championship right before entering the world of Formula 1, with one difference: Hamilton began his F1 career with the 2nd top team while Glock began with a poor team, the Toyota.
Also, note how great champions like Sebastien Bourdais(who won several Championships in the USA) perform badly in Formula 1 due to their cars.
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Lewis Hamilton has been sponsored by Mclaren throughout his career, since he was about 10-13 yrs old. Ron Dennis has always known the lad had talent. In other words, he didn't approach Mclaren, they approached him.
Exactly. Hamilton is a McLaren pilot simply because he's British, like the McLaren team...I would have ended up in another team with poor chances of winning the Championship.
Both Lewis Hamilton and Timo Glock won the GP2 Championship right before entering the world of Formula 1, with one difference: Hamilton began his F1 career with the 2nd top team while Glock began with a poor team, the Toyota.
Also, note how great champions like Sebastien Bourdais(who won several Championships in the USA) perform badly in Formula 1 due to their cars.
his car was ok (Sebastien Bourdais) it was the engine that lety him down (ferrari)........
just joking
maybe lewis hamilton was chosen because he was british , but i thinhk you should try and find the interview given by mclaren a few years ago , they have been watching lewis for ten years or more like many european football teams do .
He is there because he has talent and he won because he has talent and luck , and luck in f1 is very important . f1 is about insane amounts of money and pride , we have seen teams go from the heights to the ****es and back again , williams , ferrari , team redbull ( that was minardi.... )
so lets just say massa lost because he was unlucky but he lost so live with it !
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No doubt Lewis Hamilton has talent, he's surely among the best pilots in circulation, but I don't understand why people tend to exaggerate with him. Be coherent, please...Raikkonen was a meh Champion in 2007, I don't see why Hamilton shouldn't now.
Hamilton was lucky because, although talented as many others, he began his F1 career in a top notch team because Ron Dennis wanted to. All other pilots are "self made man", I'd like to mention Michael Schumacher...he won with a crappy car. That's incredible.
I'm waiting for the next Championship - I expect the Ferrari to win 3-4 races before the end(:p)...oh, and I'd also like Fernando Alonso to take Kimi Raikkonen's place.
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No doubt Lewis Hamilton has talent, he's surely among the best pilots in circulation, but I don't understand why people tend to exaggerate with him
Pilot?
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Oh yeah, I forgot they're called "drivers" in English.
In Italian Formula One pilots are refered to as piloti = pilots...sorry, it's lingual... :)
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Oh yeah, I forgot they're called "drivers" in English.
In Italian Formula One pilots are refered to as piloti = pilots...sorry, it's lingual... :)
in french as well there pilots
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We're not alone, then... :D
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i think its probably the same in all Latin based languages? Spanish , french , Portuguese , Italian ... Romanian?
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Damn Brits changing everything all the time!
Or should I say Anglo-Saxons? :mad:
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Damn Brits changing everything all the time!
Or should I say Anglo-Saxons? :mad:
driver comes frtom old english drifan (to push , probably) which is Proto-Germanic *driƀan. Cognate with Old Saxon drīƀan (Dutch drijven), Old High German trīban (German treiben), Old Norse drÃfa (Swedish driva), Gothic
anglo-saxons thats the germans
i blame the ruling classes in great britain , so that would be lets see.... the germans , the french, and now the russians damn , those poor brits
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Oh yeah, I forgot they're called "drivers" in English.
In Italian Formula One pilots are refered to as piloti = pilots...sorry, it's lingual... :)
in french as well there pilots
In USA, they call them pilots too. I don't know what snail is talking about.
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Maybe Snail isn't familiar with Formula One?
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maybe the rest of the world laughs at you for your incoherent ramblings? :p
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Yeah. Land vehicles are driven. . . . It's only been that way, since you know, we invented land based transport.
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Oddly enough, although the English is correct, driven vehicles are land based, it's an interesting fact that in reality, the only vehicles people actually 'drive' are human-powered ones, like bikes, and those are considered to be 'ridden', which is, in truth, what we do with engine-driven vehicles.
So everyone is wrong :p
Including me, probably.
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Massa and Alonso are Spaniards, right?
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Massa is Brasilian but has some Italian relatives while Alonso is Spanish.
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Oh, okay.
One of my lecturers - a Spaniard - was rooting for Massa. Hispanics. :rolleyes:
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On a side note Massa is quite loved by Brazilians because he didn't start his F1 career as the "worth successor of Ayrton Senna".
Barrichello promised a lot of successes, he thought to be the worth successor...and now most Brazilians hate him.
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Why's that? Did he offend Massa?
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No. He simply hadn't great chances during his career after the death of Ayrton Senna...he deluded all Brazilians who hoped to see Rubens and a worth successor of Senna.
Massa achieved a lot in a modest way. No exaggerated promises from him. That's why he's more popular.
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Yeah, and I believe he's a better driver than Hamilton. The only problem: his team.
On the track, Massa makes few errors, I'll give him that. The penalties he incurred are due to technical faults in his team. It's almost as if he's experiencing what Lewis Hamilton went through last year.
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Despite its many errors the Ferrari team managed to win the Constructor Championship 8 times in the past 10 years...it's a superb achievement, almost certainly unmatced in all sports.
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Despite its many errors the Ferrari team managed to win the Constructor Championship 8 times in the past 10 years...it's a superb achievement, almost certainly unmatced in all sports.
Unmatched? 8 in 10? Bah...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Tinsley
45 years in competitive play, tens of thousands of games played, etc...
First place in every event he played. Defeats? 9... two of which against a computer which would later resolve checkers (he beat the computer in any case). The guy was so ridiculously strong that when he stopped playing the world championships, to focus on matches against computers (because humans were much weaker than him) the federations at that time were forced to give him a lifetime world champion title. That's unmatched. 8 out of 10... bah...
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That guy isn't a team...
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Fine, you want a team, here's a team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_basketball_team)
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That's overkill ;7