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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bobboau on November 02, 2008, 11:55:24 pm
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you remember the anonymous war against Scientology, well I've been keeping tabs on it all this time and some **** is going down right now. the important **** is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asE0dHsWHVg
(full story here (http://gawker.com/5074201/anonymous-v-scientology-protest-turns-ugly?autoplay=true), much longer higher quaity vid here (http://www.hollywoodinterrupted.com/archives/scientology_stormtroopers_throw_beatdown_on_peaceful_protesters_exclusive_video.phtml), and digg link here (http://digg.com/world_news/Anonymous_v_Scientology_Protest_Turns_Ugly_2))
there was a raid on "gold" base recently and as you can see from the video the guys there didn't take to kindly to the protest. in addition to the raid siren that the Church so graciously played for them constantly, they started messing with the car that the protesters came in on. every time someone got close to see what they were doing they would get back in there car and drive off, eventually one of the protesters, 'AnonOrenge', followed them to see what they were doing and they jumped him. you can see in the video what happened, next.
if you look around you can find several different view of what happened, some starting from much earlier in the day.
of important interest; the woman you see getting slammed into the back of the car is (I believe [edit: aparently it's a not the girl who got slamed in the vid]) a recently 'blown' former scientologist, she was assaulted the very next day (and told to "shut up", she is apparently also going to be a witness for some trial the feds are working on) from what I can gather, in addition to having her (and everyone else with out of state license plates in her apartment complex) tires slashed, and someone trying to run her down. although I can't look the details up to be precisely sure of what happened for reasons I will get into in a moment.
the guy you see having three nut jobs on top of him was actually arrested for trespassing when the cops finally showed up. I don't think that's valid though given the circumstances. there was a whole bunch of other weird stuff (like flares being dropped behind there car) happening but again I can't look up and I'll now tell you why.
today, just as all these events are starting to circulate on the tubes, virtually ALL major Chanology sites have gone down. at first glance it has all the hall marks of anti-chanology anons, there has been growing resentment for chanology sence about March, it eventually led to a protracted DDoS against Enturbulation.org which recently shut down, because... well no one is actually sure why it got shut down, but a lot of people think the guy left running it took the money and ran. there is good evidence that this is anon on anon. however the timing is odd to me, seeing as this is the biggest thing to happen sence this **** started about 9 months ago the vids of this assault have been getting taken down fast, and **** just seems to be getting real all of the sudden.
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Wait, WAIT. They have "armed compounds"? :wtf:
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I thought the real anons got bored with this a while ago, like over the summer. As I understand it, the anti-Scientology stuff kind of fell to the new anons and was just a bunch of lame protests. I remember in the early days there was talk of how best to sneak in and steal files from their computers or ruin plumbing systems, real serious stuff. I would bet that this is the "old" anons getting tired of the "new" anons and basically taking down all their sites for the lulz.
But I haven't been keeping up with any of this, so I could be way off base. :p
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yeah, that's about right, if it were not for the timing I would have no doubt the haking was anon trolling anon.
and the majority of the chan involvement did prety much end in the summer, but there are still hundreds of people working on it.
but the assault on the video is probably the biggest thing to happen seance the whole mess started. I just thought it was pretty ****ing messed up.
Wait, WAIT. They have "armed compounds"? :wtf:
yes, and an armed military force, as you can see in the vid, those guys are packing.
...and a navy.
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I'm genuinely speechless.
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Wow. Just, wow. Sure makes me proud to be an american, knowing we have cults running around with guns and ships, and that nobody gives a damn.
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Well they don't care as long as the cult is rich and has celebrities in it. Otherwise it's torch the place with the people inside.
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Ah, just watched the video. What were they even doing in the first place, just standing around with signs and such? Anyhow, seemed kinda frakked up. They could have embellished the woman getting thrown around a little better than "suffered a broken nail".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_organizations
This **** goes deeper than I thought.
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Yvan eht nioj !
Brotherhood of Nod is coming!
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here is a different vantage
http://vimeo.com/2078327
much beter quality, and you can hear what the guards and the guy are saying.
here is a general video of the raid in question
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFnn2f9dTYA
the important part starts at about 7:00
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yes, and an armed military force, as you can see in the vid, those guys are packing.
...and a navy.
Ok, just what exactly do these guys have in the way of an armed paramilitary force?
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yes, and an armed military force, as you can see in the vid, those guys are packing.
...and a navy.
Ok, just what exactly do these guys have in the way of an armed paramilitary force?
Not entirely sure, but I know they have three "bases"
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/me remembers homer and his "leader beans" :lol:
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yes, and an armed military force, as you can see in the vid, those guys are packing.
...and a navy.
Ok, just what exactly do these guys have in the way of an armed paramilitary force?
for starters the guys in the video who you were watchin put that guy's face thrugh the ground, second, the sea org
(http://www.verfassungsschutz-bw.de/grafiken/so/seaorg-flyer2_gr.jpg)
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Why does it seem like a Star Trekky convention gone terribly wrong????
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Because it's based on a bad science fiction storywriter's bad science fiction story? :nervous:
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Ding ding ding ding, we have a winner :P
It's like basing a religion on the Crying Game :D
The irony of Dil having a pickle .......
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yes, and an armed military force, as you can see in the vid, those guys are packing.
...and a navy.
Ok, just what exactly do these guys have in the way of an armed paramilitary force?
for starters the guys in the video who you were watchin put that guy's face thrugh the ground, second, the sea org
(http://www.verfassungsschutz-bw.de/grafiken/so/seaorg-flyer2_gr.jpg)
What do the colors on that map mean?
I've looked up the sea org, but it is still not totally clear what they have in the way of armaments.
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I've looked up the sea org, but it is still not totally clear what they have in the way of armaments.
I'm pretty sure that's intentional.
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I'd like to see Scientology take on Aum Shrinkyo at its peak.
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I can't help but see Eliot Carvers stealth ship when i think of these guys now. Also that pic looks like a c&c screenshot :lol:
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in all honesty I was mostly joking about the 'armed military force' it was in reference to the heavy security in most of there establishments. what they do have is more like a good intelligence/counterintelligence service. if they were sieged I have no doubt they would be able to put up a decent fight, but pound for pound what they have in terms of a real physical threat comes from there 'office of special affairs'. the majority of the sea org is actually more like a indentured work force than a military. but they do have a thing for 45 caliber pistols. they probably have stockpiles of weapons at a few of there bases and vaults, but (aside from the afore mentioned pistols) it isn't something the routinely deploy. what would be more worrisome would be assassination type tactics, it wouldn't be too hard for them to discretely kill someone who was causing them problems, but they usually try to get them sued into oblivion or imprisoned (falsely if necessary).
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Ok, not Nod, more like the GLA :lol:
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looking some stuff up for this I did notice apparently the firearms training company, Front Sight, is a Scientology front business. and it looks like it has the lawsuits to prove it.
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I've looked up the sea org, but it is still not totally clear what they have in the way of armaments.
Zero. It's run-down cruise ship.
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What's... the point?
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Stealth weapons systems. <ackbar>it's a trap!</ackbar> like all bond villian vessels it transforms.
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What's... the point?
of what?
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I've looked up the sea org, but it is still not totally clear what they have in the way of armaments.
Zero. It's run-down cruise ship.
What's... the point?
of the sea org
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To keep the people they've told their core crazinesses to in one place where they can't spread the word, I imagine. Probably tax purposes too.
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like I said indentured workforce, while you are in you get all of your 'training' free, but you are paid like $24 a week, if you quit you are given a bill for all the services you used which is easily hundreds of thousands of dollars. it is also where HEAVY indoctrination is administered, they control every aspect of your life, there are things like forced abortions to make sure you do not have any distractions from your 'important' work.
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LOL talk about freaking insanity.
Sometimes common sense needs to step in with a judge to prevent this ****e.
The Brits seem to handle this much better.
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Movemantarians weren't that bad :eek:
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I've looked up the sea org, but it is still not totally clear what they have in the way of armaments.
Zero. It's run-down cruise ship.
Pity, so much for being a pretender to the throne. Hopefully in the future they will start arming heavily so anti-scientology debates and protests can be more fun (and interesting).
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Harpoon/Exocet anyone? They'll never know what hit em if they tried arming up against the Trans-Atlantic-Alliance :pimp: :yes:
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What if they acquire and launch nuclear weapons at everyone in an attempt to appease Xenu?
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Then the WILL turn out out to be the brotherhood of Nod, both seem intent on finding aliens :lol:
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MiB :P