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Title: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 03, 2008, 01:57:43 pm: So, I want to scan a Shivan Comm node. The node is set scannable, and subsystem scanning is off. I can target it with the U key, but it doesn't show up in target view as "unscanned", and I can't scan it either.

I tried using set-unscanned, but to no avail.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 03, 2008, 02:14:46 pm: Only think I can think of is making sure it has cargo. This question has come up before so you may want to do some searching.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: karajorma on November 03, 2008, 02:55:03 pm: Untick cargo known if you haven't already. Although setting it unscanned should have had the same effect.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 04, 2008, 09:26:11 am: The node has cargo, which isn't known by default. I replayed Lion's Den to have a look if it's possible there, but these nodes aren't scannable either (Perhaps this is not a FRED issue then?)

FUBAR, are you sure this has been asked before? I can't find anything like it.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: karajorma on November 04, 2008, 09:59:57 am: It could be an issue to do with the fact that nodes by default have the Knossos flag. I'm not certain if they are scanable either (can't run MSVC at the moment to check).
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 04, 2008, 11:50:34 am: Quote from: FreeSpaceFreak on November 04, 2008, 09:26:11 am
FUBAR, are you sure this has been asked before? I can't find anything like it.

Pretty sure there was a big discussion on subsystem scanning that turned into an all out discussion on scanning.

Here's one: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,10467.0.html

Seems anything with the huge flag can't be scanned?????
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 04, 2008, 03:01:43 pm: C***.

Is there any way around it, without messing with the tables? It would be really difficult to "talk around" it in the mission.

EDIT: Found it :D Thanks, boys.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: Angelus on November 04, 2008, 03:33:02 pm: You could fake the scanning process, by adding waypoints and let on of your wingman scan the node.
Set SEXPs to let him stay close to the node for 10 or 20 seconds.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 04, 2008, 03:36:29 pm: So, I discovered that when I toggle subsystem scanning "on", I can scan the whole thing at once. I don't get the logic of it, but I'm glad it's fixed. Thanks for the help, everyone!
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: Goober5000 on November 04, 2008, 08:46:15 pm: "Toggle subsystem scanning" means just that -- a toggle. If scanning the whole ship is normal behavior, the toggle will make it scan only subsystems, and vice versa. Since the FS2 retail behavior (c.f. Into the Lion's Den) is to scan the whole thing, you should have been able to just duplicate what :v: did.

Try posting your mission as an attachment.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on November 05, 2008, 02:51:10 am: Well, the mission is kinda... secret...

But when I toggle subsystem scanning on, I can scan the whole node, but not the individual subsystems.

I just replayed Lion's Den, and I couldn't scan the nodes there either. So I can't duplicate :v:'s work there.
Title: Re: Unscannable Comm Nodes
Post by: Goober5000 on November 05, 2008, 09:14:01 am: Actually, in Lion's Den you couldn't scan the comm nodes either. I misremembered. :doh:

So I'm not sure whether this is a bug or not. At least your mission is working.