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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Snail on November 07, 2008, 10:30:27 am
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Too much griders and the ships stop looking solid and ends up looking more like a unfinished construction project. I prefer it to be closer to hte original - solid armored block, but with interesting greebling stuff.
Well, the Hippocrates is already really weird shaped. It looks like a few random hits anywhere could break it into pieces. I like this look to it, it strengthens that feeling of uselessness.
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It always appeared to be several blocks held together with supports.
This emphasizes that feeling.
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Snail, that design isn't random. It's meant to help...with that design it's pretty easy to contain virus/bacteria propagation...an infected medical ship would be good for nothing.
Too bad this aspect of the Hippocrates has never been exploited(as far as I know).
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Snail, that design isn't random. It's meant to help...with that design it's pretty easy to contain virus/bacteria propagation...an infected medical ship would be good for nothing.
What I meant is that a few stray shots would break it apart. Which is partially true given it has only 10,000 HP...
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It's correct, but keep in mind that the Hippocrates isn't supposed to be attacked in a hostile environment. To be honest I fail tu understand why :v: armed it, I would have left it as a pure civilian vessel - it's not a military transport like the Argo.
A weak structure is the price the Hippocrates needs to pay for its exceptional performances as hospital ship.
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It's correct, but keep in mind that the Hippocrates isn't supposed to be attacked in a hostile environment. To be honest I fail tu understand why :v: armed it, I would have left it as a pure civilian vessel - it's not a military transport like the Argo.
A weak structure is the price the Hippocrates needs to pay for its exceptional performances as hospital ship.
What I fail to understand is why a hospital has a LTerSlash and an AAA beam.
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too protect them from drug addicts?
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too protect them from drug addicts?
Well, shouldn't the Argo, which needs to protect itself from high-tech rebels and Shivans, have BGreens, then?
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Yeah, not only :v: armed the Hippocrates but they also exaggerated in doing it... :wtf:
It may be a table entry glitch...like the Mentu having no beams, the Moloch having only SReds or the Orion having 3 BGreens...
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too protect them from drug addicts?
Well, shouldn't the Argo, which needs to protect itself from high-tech rebels and Shivans, have BGreens, then?
well, the argo is kinda dainty... I mean, can you fit a bgreen on it?
besides, I was kinda joking ;)
BTW I guess it was for balance.
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besides, I was kinda joking ;)
So was I.
It may be a table entry glitch...like the Mentu having no beams, the Moloch having only SReds or the Orion having 3 BGreens...
Well, mistake or not, it's canon.
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So...the Mentu's table entry overwrites the Mentu's tech description? :rolleyes:
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So...the Mentu's table entry overwrites the Mentu's tech description? :rolleyes:
Well, doesn't stop you from changing it yourself. ;)
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It's correct, but keep in mind that the Hippocrates isn't supposed to be attacked in a hostile environment. To be honest I fail tu understand why :v: armed it, I would have left it as a pure civilian vessel - it's not a military transport like the Argo.
A weak structure is the price the Hippocrates needs to pay for its exceptional performances as hospital ship.
I'm finding myself agreeing with alot of people I don't normally agree with in this thread :nod:
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I think everyone is in agreement that giving a hospital heavy weaponry was a weird thing...
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At the first sign of trouble the ships captain's first instinct should be to run.
No, this is FreeSpace, you fight it out until you get to that node, Solider!
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yeah. In freespace, a ship as hottrodded as the millenium falcon is perfectly legal. :P
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I think it probably has the beam to fend off pirates in the like. Undefended military transports are unlikely to be carrying anything important. An aircraft carrier sized hospital would be an attractive target.
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Heh? The Hippocrates? Weakly armored?
Its got more HP than a Fenris which is basically an armored block.
The hippo is tough.
But I still like the exposed look - it's awesome.
Its LTerSlash is probably there because it was also designed to evacuate civilians and treat wounded military personnel, often near the field of battle where a stray cruiser may come around. The Hippocrates we see in the game are probably all owned by the military. A civilian one (if there are any) probably wouldn't have the anti-warship beam cannon.
The Argo doesn't have heavy armament because part of its role is as a marine boarding craft. Its only going to dock with a ship which is pretty much disabled and disarmed, meaning it doesn't need heavy armament at all.
I think it probably has the beam to fend off pirates in the like. Undefended military transports are unlikely to be carrying anything important. An aircraft carrier sized hospital would be an attractive target.
And that.
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A weak structure is the price the Hippocrates needs to pay for its exceptional performances as hospital ship.
We all know that structural design and Hit point don't have a sane relation in FS2.
Any thing having a thin neck/connector is a bad design for a warship (realisticly speaking). Heck, a stray shot could sever the Sobek or Hatsheput or Hecate in half. :lol:
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The Hippocrates was probably armed because of the NTF refusing to recognise BETAC. And to fend off asteroids, as someone has already said. Originally it may have been intended to have been unarmed/have minimal armament but the circumstances changed with the NTF rebellion. I dunno.
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Excuse me, but isn't the Hippocrates a bit older than the rebellion?
And asteroid fields aren't supposed to be anywhere. I don't see the point in using a LTerSlash against asteroids, though.
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I think it would be quite effective :nervous: In one slash, it can take out quite a few asteroids, and it can do that every 15 (or so) seconds.
And I think I like the one with the armored panel most.
EDIT: K, I didn't know beams are supposed to ignore asteroids. Still, I think it would work well.
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Aren't anti-warship beams supposed to ignore asteroids? :wtf:
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Excuse me, but isn't the Hippocrates a bit older than the rebellion?
Yes you're right, see the quote below. What I meant was, perhaps the Hippocrates' were originally designed to be unarmed or to just have minimal armament, but then later on the GTVA retrofitted them to be more heavily armed due to the threat the NTF posed when the rebellion began about 30 years later. I'm only speculating of course. :)
Chronos freighters IIRC are a civilian design but were brought into military service in FS1. Same with the Faustus.
From the tech room description:
Terrans developed the GTM Hippocrates early in the post-war Reconstruction period. With the outbreak of the NTF insurgency, the GTVA has once again called the Hippocrates into active military service. Its on-board facilities provide state-of-the-art medical care to thousands of patients. Hippocrates also help transport refugees out of contested systems into the safety of Allied-controlled regions. The unusual design of the Hippocrates enables its crew to isolate sections of the ship quickly in the event of quarantine or hull breach.
Note: original post edited slightly.
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Aren't anti-warship beams supposed to ignore asteroids? :wtf:
Yes, I think. :rolleyes:
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Yes you're right, see the quote below. What I meant was, perhaps the Hippocrates' were originally designed to be unarmed or to just have minimal armament, but then later on the GTVA retrofitted them to be more heavily armed due to the threat the NTF posed when the rebellion began about 30 years later. I'm only speculating of course. :)
Yes but yours is an assumption. It's fanon.
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Whoops - I seem to have broken the individual post topics. :nervous:
Oh well, first split, first move. I thought I'd break something more. ;)
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Why not arm it? You think the Shivans or the NTF are going to respect the non-combatant status of a medical ship? You might have Hippocrates paired with Elysiums roving through battlefields looking for survivors after the fight has moved on. If a stray patrol of fighter craft return to the site you'd want some sort of protection to buy you the time to get out of there.
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Putting the LTerSlash and AAA beam on there might just be a matter of having the necessary hull space and reactor power to do so. Hell, I'm sure Command would happily slap a BGreen on a Fenris if it were physically possible to do so. If you know a ship's going to be used for active military service, and you have the means to arm it comparatively well, why wouldn't you?