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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Upgrade Project => Topic started by: Colonol Dekker on November 12, 2008, 06:42:40 am
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I noticed lately a few people are taking up "re-inventing" some of the less popular retail ships, such as the hippocrates and the Aten.
I thought this would be a good thread (maybe) for listing ships yet to recieve hi-poly super updates. like the Shivan Gas miner, or the Zod Edjo / Ankh turrets.
So if anyone has a list of what could use a bit of spit and polish please post below :nod:
GTVSG Ankh
GTVSG Edjo
S(gas miner :nervous:) *cough cough*
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*cough cough as well* -It's called SSG Rahu. Should be SG though.
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the argo is criying for help!
or maybe It's done and I didnt knew about it.
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That's actually what this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53969.0.html) is for.
I need to go through the latest media VPs and update it, though it should be fairly accurate.
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Updated already. ;) So, how about we turn this thread into something more useful to modders:
Make a 'HTL Wish List' of the ships you would most like to see given upgrades!
Anyone who has an opinion on the matter, post a list of 5 or so ships that you want to see upgraded next in order of priority, so modders interested in making one can come along and see which ones have the most demand. :)
If the idea seems to catch on here, I'll edit the topic a bit and sticky it.
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All right then...
GVD Hatshepsut
GVC Mentu
GTB Artemis
GVF Tauret
GVB Sekhmet
GTB Boanerges
EDIT: Arcadia too, either before or after Mentu
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SSG = Shivan Super Gas Miner
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5 Ships? In no particular order:
Argo - Really common, and I don't think that hard to do, but it's somewhat odd shape has probably scred a lot of modders off.
Cain/Lillith - Common, and you get two ships for the price of one (though some minor variation between the two would be nice).
Rakshasa - Awesome shape, plenty of scope for texture following greebling, yet the Rak gets no love. Perplexing.
Hatshepsut - First mission. First capship anyone sees in the game, and awesome shape as well. Needs HTLing like I need rum.
Tauret - Just pipped the Thoth or the Sekhmet. Commonly seen fighter, I can imagine quite difficult to do more than smooth and a few overhang scaley bits, but so worth it.
So that's my five. Other nice ones would be the Boa and artemis, so we'd have the full Terran fighter/bomber set, the Mentu because it's the only vasudan cruiser anyone realistically uses, and any of the Shivan fighters and bombers, because they're really common enemies and, for any of the ones made for FS2 except the Mara - dog ugly as it stands. But yeah, top five are as above.
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The Shivan flotilla is really under-loved as a whole, at least once you get outside of the capital ships. I'd just about kill to see a good Dragon. I agree with the Hatshepsut, too. Maybe throw in a Thoth, since I'm a fan of those, and an Isis, since that could look really impressive. Finish off with a Nephilim, since I'm really curious as to what someone would be able to accomplish with that.
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No new ships Plox, i'd really like to see the Nephilim ramped up a gear too.
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Thoth: A non HTL Ship on the front screen of the SCP? :wtf:
Argo: Really common.
Basilisk: Really common. And I think it would also look extremely awesome as well
Rakshasa: Really, really awesome design.
Cain/Lilith: Another really awesome design, and also extremely common.
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Myrmidon: Even though every hates it, that reason makes it common in campaigns.
Thoth: Above reason.
Cain/Lilith: Above
Any of the shivan bombers/fighters: Must... have...
Boanerges: Well, i like it...
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The Myrm is HTL'ed, even if it is barely noticeable. I think that maybe fixing the horrible smoothing might help a bit...
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Artimis Definately
Hatshepsut would be awesome
Myrmidon needs a cockpit.
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Basilisk
Dragon
Manticore
Cain/Lilith
Rakshasa
Colossus
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There's already a Colossus!!!!!! /rage
It's just not completely done yet!
There's also a WIP Manticore IIRC that was done save skinning, as there also is a Dragon in the same state.
There's also a WIP Cain/Lilith, though I don't know what became of it.
There's also a WIP Rakshasa, but that consists of only a few vent thingys IIRC.
What someone really needs to do is finish off UVing, skinning, and converting some of the "completed" models there are...namely the Charybdis, Colossus, Manticore, Dragon, and Demon...amongst others.
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This isn't about finishing stuff - it's to get an idea for which ships people think need upgrading most. Regardless of whether or not they've been started. :)
Edit: Also, blanket statements like 'any shivan fighters' don't count. We want specifics!
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Well, in that case, I might add Arcadia... ;)
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I think the Hattie is definintely in need of some attention. With normal maps, it already looks great, but some HTL-ing could make it truly amazing.
Other than that...
Cain/Lilith
Horus
Artemis/DH
Rahu
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Horus (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Horus/HorusFinal1.jpg) is done. Will be in the next mediavps.
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Isn't ST: reborn producing / completed a new Hades?
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I'm making one for them, yes - in the 'Teaser' thread.
Also Dekker - you've only mentioned the Nephilim. Any others? :)
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Not forgetting the all important Alastor.
The Terran Gas miner is a bit left out also.
EDIT-- This bulletcode thing is wayy..............sensitive :wtf:
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Errm, the Zeus and Loki have been done for a while now. Like, a year or so. :p
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WEll i need more detail, i want to be able to read the odometer and see the screws on the fuel cap. :p
j/k.
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Not forgetting the all important Alastor.
The Terran Gas miner is a bit left out also.
EDIT-- This bulletcode thing is wayy..............sensitive :wtf:
:wtf: Not only have the zeus and loki been done, but they're the most HTLified fighters yet. The zeus has 9000 polies IIRC.
However, I agree the knossos could definately use an overhaul.
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:wtf: Not only have the zeus and loki been done, but they're the most HTLified fighters yet. The zeus has 9000 polies IIRC.
People should use them more ;7
Zod Stealth fighter/bomber.
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I thought someone had already done an updated Arcadia? Or was that just a retexture? I know I've seen one that doesn't look like the retail version. And what I saw, even if it was just a retexture, it looked a damn sight better than the original.
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I thought someone had already done an updated Arcadia? Or was that just a retexture? I know I've seen one that doesn't look like the retail version. And what I saw, even if it was just a retexture, it looked a damn sight better than the original.
You can see what's finished and what not here: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,53969.0.html
I still vote for the Argo, seems easy to do (I wouldn't know for certain) and it's really really common in fs campaigns.
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I want a NEW (not the one from Deviantart, though that guy's collie is good) HTL arcadia, based off that one shot in the FS1 opening, when the text 'Riviera Outpost Ros 128' appears at the bottom.
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It's on hold, but it *is* in development: here. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Arcadia/Arcadia-HTLWIP11.jpg)
I've been a bit side tracked by other things since, and it was built before normal maps happened - so I'll probably need to enhance or strip off some of the tiny details to bring it up to date. It'll get there eventually though - I'll see to that. :)
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Dockpoints galore...
What's the maximum number of ships that can be docked to a single object again?
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Anyone who has an opinion on the matter, post a list of 5 or so ships that you want to see upgraded next in order of priority...
Here are my five most preferred, in no particular order:
GTD Orion
GTD Orion
GTD Orion
GTD Orion
GTD Orion
What's the maximum number of ships that can be docked to a single object again?
The game does not impose a limit. Your computer might, though. :)
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I concur on the GTD Orion on the basis that it would be a lot more convenient to have an actual nameplate texture rather than a huge gaping hole in the side. And to keep it from duplicating the texture on the other side.
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Um... wasn't the Orion already Hi-Polyfied by Bobbeau some time ago, including a spot for a nameplate?
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he dont like it.
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The one in the thread linked to is not what I'm thinking of. I could have sworn there was an Arcadia someone messed with that used some of the hull textures from a mod. I don't remember if they were EA hull textures or some of Darius' textures from Blue Planet. It looked a lot better to me than the existing Arcadia textures. I'll do some searching around the boards to see if I can find it.
EDIT: A quick search isn't turning anything up. I don't even remember what I'm looking for exactly though.
EDIT 2: On second thought, it may not be an Arcadia that I'm thinking of. It's possibly a fan created GTA installation.
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he dont like it.
Then use TrashMan's, which is slightly lower-poly, but its closer to the original model.
There's already two Orions. We don't need more at all, compared to those who don't have an upgrade at all...
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Knossos, Argo, Rakshasa, Hatshepsut, Comm node. Though this list might be quite far from common opinions.
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Maybe we should just make a poll.
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sure.
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Did anyone mention Iceni yet? ;7
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Did anyone mention Iceni yet? ;7
Will be in the next MediaVPs (IIRC >_>)
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Yep.
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K, poll added. You can vote for up to 5, and change your vote. These are all the ones that have been proposed so far (that aren't already in the works.)
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I chose Artemis/Sekhmet/Hatshesput/Rakshasa/Knossos
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Go Argo GO!
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Picked Boanerges, Argo, Hatshepsut, Cain and Rakshasa :yes:
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Come on people, vote for the Argo a bit. You WILL see it appear a lot ;)
Apart from that the Hattie, Rakshasa, Comm node and Knossos (ASW could use this :D )
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Artemis/Argo/Hatshepsut/Cain/Rakshasa
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Knossos, Thoth, Basilisk, Rakshasa, Cain. Probably should've voted for argo instead of something else, but meh
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I think Goobs cheating. :p
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I think Goobs cheating. :p
Yes, indeed :shaking:
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GTD Orion - 100 (43.7%) :wtf: You bet he is.
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Basilisk/Argo/Hatshepsut/Boarnerges/Knossos
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Orion?
:ick: That's had attention since pre-SCP days. Give the underdogs a chance. or we may as well rename this the SCPOrion project :p
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Damn if I knew how to make models the Argo might be done by now, I hate my useless skills :(
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Someone did actually post a completed Artemis quite some time ago -- IIRC the post was lost in a forum problem. Does anyone still have that model file floating around?
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Looks like the argo, hattie, basilisk, cain, and rakshasa are getting an overhaul first. Also, hell, I might re HTL the orion after i'm done with the Tyrinthe, Shaitain, Tiigran capital ships, and Chalgasi fleet. :p
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I think Goobs cheating. :p
:rolleyes: Not anymore, he's not.
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GTD Orion - 100 (43.7%) :wtf: You bet he is.
It's Snuffleupagus now... ;)
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I voted for Hatschepsut/ Cain/ Rakshasa/ Boanerges and the Basilisk.
Snuffleupagus? :wtf:
What kind of ship is that?
EDIT: Nevermind, i googled it and discovered it's the furry kind of ship. :P
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Snuffleupagus? :wtf:
It's the vasudan juggernaught, noob :p
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Yeah, that furry ship strikes fear in my heart. :P
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If it gets in trouble it calls for a large yellow feathered companion vessel code name Big Bird. :P
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The Knossos and Dragon rarely seen at a short enough range to really notice. The first because it's too big, the second because it's too small and moving around too much.
The Shivan Comm Node looks pretty decent already compared to most of the high-poly ships.
The Hermes and Isis are too rarely seen to merit high-priority. Ditto the Vasudan sentries (doesn't help that they suck).
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Boanerges-Argo-Hatshepsut-Rakshasa-S.C.N.
About the Snuffleupagus.....errr... Without Commentaries
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i would like Boa, Myrmidon, Hattie, Cain, Rakshasa.
I expect them done in one week.
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Wiat a second, no Boadicea&Iceni in the list?
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Wiat a second, no Boadicea&Iceni in the list?
Iceni is done, though I dunno why Boadicea isn't there...
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Myrmidon
The Myrm is HTL'ed, even if it is barely noticeable. I think that maybe fixing the horrible smoothing might help a bit...
:hopping:
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Good, the Iceni is done...but what happened to the Boadicea? I know it's used only once but it deserves some attention. :)
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It's not done because it is the single most complex model in FS2, in terms of hierarchy, and reproducing and debugging it would take up more of VA's time than he's willing to invest this year. Especially since we need him for ST:R stuff.
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The Myrmidon isn't good enough IMHO.
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The Myrmidon isn't good enough IMHO.
Well, some parts of it are good, some aren't. One of the biggest issues is that universal smoothing hides a lot of the detail. I'm sure a cockpit wouldn't hurt either...
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Need to put the Bahaka on there (clicked skemet before I realised that was the wrong vasudan bomber) Or alteast give it a decent texture.
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Stickied, since I'd like to see these results over the long term. :)
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I vote the Myrmadon.
Yeah, I know... :o
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Now that I found out the Typhon got de-HTL-ized.
Can I change one of my votes from GTT Argo to GVD Typhon? :P
(But I do want the Argo to get textured and finished first)
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Sathanas already upgraded? Doesn't look like it to me.
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Sathanas already upgraded? Doesn't look like it to me.
http://councilor.deviantart.com/art/Shivan-Juggernaut-showcase-99775231
Donno if that counts.
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After certain discussions many members claimed that Councilor's model should not be considered an high poly version of the Sathanas but rather a separate model. Side by side comparison served as evidence.
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Yeah, it's a bit too much of an interpretation.
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True, but its still purdy. :P
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What Councilor did went well beyond high poly-ing...
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Cause that wasn't the point at that time. It's based on the Sath's concept.
Oh can anyond PLEARE do the Colossus?! You got the model. All it needs is to get POFed.
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Cause that wasn't the point at that time. It's based on the Sath's concept.
Oh can anyond PLEARE do the Colossus?! You got the model. All it needs is to get POFed.
Agree 100%.
Well, doesn't it need turrets still too?
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Oh can anyond PLEARE do the Colossus?! You got the model. All it needs is to get POFed.
No. It needs turrets (and it is too different from the original to just copy the turrets over), as well as the fact that the model needs some cleanup. Plus new LODs (same reason) and probably debris.
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So finish it. Use turrets from other capships. Like the double bareled multi-parts can be taken from TrashMan's Orion Mk2, etc.
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:wtf: I don't think you're comprehending the amount of work that goes into this kind of stuff. Especially for a ship that has that many turrets, all of which need their firepoints and other various data set up. It's just not that simple. I'd like to see it finished as much as the next person, but there are few people who have enough time to commit to making it happen.
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Could you fire the unfinished POF this way?
I could probably rig something workable together, assuming I don't need to UV map it.
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It does need texture mapping and a lot of cleanup. Anyone who's worked with booleans understands what a mess it makes. I have the model on my HD at school but I won't be able to upload it anytime soon--far too much other work to do.
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That was a nice Sath but it was a little big lol.
Is the Demon in progress, somewhere? The new Ravana is awesome so I'm hoping the new Demon will be too.
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TrashMan is working on the Demon, if I remember well. ;)
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Meh. TrashMan's Demon is fugly. So was the typhoid TrashManized Typhon. :doubt:
(oh look here he comes now)
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Alright, what's the point in this kind of offense?
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Alright, what's the point in this kind of offense?
I am voicing my opinion.
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Why Is The Arcadia Not In This List!!!???!!!???
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because, ragingloli did one along with the GTVA Colossus?
His DeviantArt account got purged though, so no screenshot left :(
I'm not even sure anyone here has the model though.
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because, ragingloli did one along with the GTVA Colossus?
His DeviantArt account got purged though, so no screenshot left :(
I'm not even sure anyone here has the model though.
It was given to ED at some point as a Cinema 4D file. None of us can do anything with that file format, however :(
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How did the Colossus wind up as a POF then?
There has to be a way to get from C4D to POF. Anyone have Cinema 4D?
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How did the Colossus wind up as a POF then?
There has to be a way to get from C4D to POF. Anyone have Cinema 4D?
You do realize that the Arcadia has no turrets too, don't you? :wtf:
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Yeah, but turrets are easy to do in PCS2. I don't get what's all the fuss about getting them set up beforehand. I do 100% of my turret data in PCS2. (well, besides the actual physical model)
Besides, once it's in POF, it can easily be converted to DAE or COB then worked on in TS or 3dsmax or anything.
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The Nephilim needs HTLing pretty badly. It's already ugly, and its relative obsolescence is doing it no favors. I do not envy the modeler who takes on that task.
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Actually, I think the Nephilim looks pretty cool in its own freakish mechanical horror like way. Its textures are pretty good.
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Nephilim is probably my all time favorite Shivan ship, but it does need some loving.
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I am voicing my opinion.
In a very harsh way, I may add.
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Nephilim is probably my all time favorite Shivan ship, but it does need some loving.
Have you lost your modelling mojo? :(
In a very harsh way, I may add.
Yeah, because it's no secret I don't like the guy.
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because, ragingloli did one along with the GTVA Colossus?
His DeviantArt account got purged though, so no screenshot left :(
I'm not even sure anyone here has the model though.
Well, that was more of an Arcadia successor IMHO. It was only remotely related to the original one.
Mewants HTL Arcadia as well :(
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VA was working on a HTL Arcadia before Goober kidnapped him.
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somebody said something about a c4d file? i'm using c4d for the past 3-4 years ffs... if you need it in some more intelligent format or completely reworked, givez uss....
neways, i'm currently working on the Thoth. the Hatshepsut is on my to do list also.
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No one cares about the Rahu? :(
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The Rahu looks okay, actually. I don't think it NEEDS to be HTL'd, but it definitely would look better.
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To be honest many of its part look outdated, under a modelling point of view. The textures significantly improved the model but they're not enough... ;)
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Have you lost your modelling mojo? :(
I know it's around here somewhere, oh, yeah it's under that pile of paperwork that is my CS senior project, ah, yeah that's what happened to it. :)
actually I am sort of half heartedly working on some stuff right now, but I am but one man, there is only so much I can do.
I think any thing not in the MVPs should be considered not only fair game but high priority fair game, if you think you can do better than what is in the MVPs currently go ahead and give it a shot, continued competition can only be a good thing. but priority should be given to the things that are still more or less retail.
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Something's making me think that the ends of the arms and the front of the bridge on the Typhon are old subspace rift textures...
Also one of the random Silent Threat cinematics show that those arms have a depression at the ends instead of just being completely flat...
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i definately agree that the arcadia needs a htl upgrade... i get depressed just looking at it when i'm playing a mission that features one -.-;;
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The Rahu looks okay, actually. I don't think it NEEDS to be HTL'd, but it definitely would look better.
:nod:
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I know galemp had the HTL Collie, not sure about the Arcadia. But that Arcadia is too different looking anyway. It would be more like an Arcadia Mk II.
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I know galemp had the HTL Collie, not sure about the Arcadia. But that Arcadia is too different looking anyway. It would be more like an Arcadia Mk II.
As I said VA was working on a HTL Arcadia.
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Can't wait for the end result.
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What the?!
Do people really want to see a HTL Snuffleupagus MORE than a new Hermes, Thoth, Tauret, Sekhmet, Isis, Mentu, Ankh, Edjo, Manticore, Azrael, Rahu or Comm Node? :p
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Well, just make one, then it's done and then people will want others done. :P
Personally, I'll vote for:
- SF Dragon - It looks so angular now.
- SC Cain/Lilith - Similar reason to above.
- GTB Boanerges - I don't know, really, why I chose this over the Artemis. :confused:
- GTEP Hermes - I'd like to see a HT'Led escape pod. :P
- GVD Hatsheput - I'm sure a HT'L Hatsheput would be great. :)
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Why do so many people vote for the Hatsheput?!?!
Its nice already. :rolleyes:
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Why do so many people vote for the Hatsheput?!?!
Its nice already. :rolleyes:
Because it's a very common model and quite frankly I think it's pretty ugly.
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Because it's a very common model and quite frankly I think it's pretty ugly.
QFT
Why do so many people vote for the Hatsheput?!?!
Its nice already. :rolleyes:
Nice is not good enough. Besides, it's not nice.
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Has anybody started work on it? Because, if not, once I finish the new Zephyrus I might have a go at it...
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Someone posted some WIP screenshots long ago, but there's been no updates, so feel free to tackle it.
Does your modeling program have a 'MeshSmooth' or 'Subdivide' function you can apply first just to round things off, before doing serious modeling?
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I use MAX 7, so I guess the answer is 'yes'. :D And of course I'm planning to 'round things off', but after the serious modeling:
You see, I have several issues (scaling, smoothing, text. coord. retention) with the conversion to a file type that MAX will load (POF to COB to OBJ), so I usually only use the original model as a reference (it sits beside the new mesh so I'm sure that I get the proportions right). If I am to export anything, I will have to start from scratch, like I always do.
And I need to finish texturing the Zephyrus first.
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I just noticed, the Arcadia in the FS1 intro is quite different from the in-game one. Looks nice, with the antennas and stuff...
*hint, hint to anyone who feels like it* :D
(http://i41.tinypic.com/9058v9.png)
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I hate the 3.6.10 Arcadia and the Orion. :no:
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I hate the 3.6.10 Arcadia and the Orion. :no:
Isn't the Arcadia still using its retail model?
Isn't the 3.6.10 Orion the same as the 3.6.8 one (for Lobo's sanity)?
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Isn't the Arcadia still using its retail model?
It is. A shame.
Isn't the 3.6.10 Orion the same as the 3.6.8 one (for Lobo's sanity)?
Yeah, guess so. Just the normal maps.
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I hate the 3.6.10 Arcadia and the Orion. :no:
Then do something about it.
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I hate the 3.6.10 Arcadia and the Orion. :no:
Then do something about it.
I am loudly protesting against it here, for instance.
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You're loudly protesting two models that haven't changed significantly in ages?
Not a bad idea, though. What would you like to see changed, aesthetically? Could be productive.
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You're loudly protesting two models that haven't changed significantly in ages?
I'd rather he protest models that haven't changed since 1998 (Cain / Lilith)
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I might be wrong, but the Cain and the Lilith had a texture redesign to not to be looking the same anymore.
By the way, the Hatsy really needs the upgrade.
*pro-tes-ting pro-tes-ting for a new Orion and Arcadia*
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Do you not get that the Arcadia is still the same retail model?
It may have had a new texture job, but that's it.
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Yes, the Arcadia is quite hideous in its current state. I hope it gets HTL'ed soon.
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Yes, the Arcadia is quite hideous in its current state. I hope it gets HTL'ed soon.
:p
The presemt texture is crappy. The good ol' was better.
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:(
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It seriously needs HTL-ing.
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The new textures are fine. But good textures can only go so far on such an atrocious model...
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I don't think the old Arcadia model is atrocious, just that it looks dated compared with all the HT'L stuff.
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Totally agreed.
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The Arcadia is one of my favourite models, with all the numbers and the docking points. All the hate here makes me sad.
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The Arcadia is one of my favourite models, with all the numbers and the docking points. All the hate here makes me sad.
Whoa, whoa, whoa... :wtf:
Numbers are textures.
Docking ports are POF special points.
We're discussing the model. And, quite honestly, it is dated. Very much so. I especially hate the top 'spike' that twists around like a corkscrew...horrible... :shaking:
And @Galemp, the new Arcadia maps are your babies aren't they? :D Have you considered overlaying the old maps on top of the new ones to get that extra 'hint' of detail? Overlaying old maps has helped me a lot on the Zephyrus...
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I like the current texture of the existing Arcadia. However, the model itself does not leave a lot to work with, so I was even more impressed with the work that Galemp made to significantly improve on it's appearance.
I however would have to make it the #1 on my list for models to be polyficated. It, and it's texture base and lower LOD's seriously needs it. The current model could serve a nice basis for a lower LOD, however, it would need to be re-textured in a fashion that matches the replacement. The only texturing concept I would keep from the existing Arcadia is the platform.
#1: Arcadia
#2: Orion (I don't even care if someone just fixes the texture hole in the existing one where the nameplate resides)
#3: Anything else.
I do think that a refresh is in order though, even for the existing models we currently have. There are too many shared textures and too many ships using a higher number of textures than they perhaps really need. And a sanity check on edges, joins and the like.
Enioch: Any lack of dirt on the Arcadia maps may actually be my fault when I converted what Galemp supplied the FSU with. I will examine this more closely.
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Nah, I think the textures would have to look basically like the original (at least as far as color and the 'grain' of the pattern). And the stuff that shows up inside the little cube part has to stay basically how it is, because I <3 it.
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Arcadia please
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Arcadia please
been working on dat since last week
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Arcadia please
been working on dat since last week
YESSS!
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Er, what about VA's one?
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Er, what about VA's one?
dunno about it haven't heard/seen any progress on it?
edit: and I wouldn't mind two versions of it anyhow :)
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Well,
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Arcadia/Arcadia-HTLWIP10.jpg?t=1239300784)
Why not make some models for ED? :nervous:
;)
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cools :yes:
well that project kinda burned me out, lost the drive and so there was RL keeping me busy.
I've come quite far on my model so don't think I'll stop :)
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Damn...nice.
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I've come quite far on my model so don't think I'll stop :)
don't want you to stop either ^^
share share!!
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The Rakshasa seems to be one of the most wanted, is someone working on it yet.
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The Rakshasa seems to be one of the most wanted
Except for the Hatshepsut, which outvoted the Rakshasa significantly :P
EDIT: Oh, and the Cain, which beat the Rakshasa by two votes.
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Did OddGrim post HTL Arcadia pics that aren't there anymore?
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ONE of the most wanted :P
I'd like a HTL Cain just as much as the Rakshasa.
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Ah, misread. And AFAIK no one has started it.
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The Rakshasa isn't HTLed already?
Well, it's still one of the more beautiful models in the game.
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Someone had started on the Rakshassa, but that was a few years ago, and it was quickly abandoned.
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I'd like to see HTL Hateshput and Isis ,also the Boanerges.
(model was completed ,it needs only converting).
Of course SC Rakshasa and SD Demon.
I could also use HTL Hades ,especially tile-textured (Hades reskins are quite popular).
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The Hades is NOT going to be texture tiled. :p If anyone does texture it with tile maps I shall beat them to death with a shovel. :p
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:lol:
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And in a three year necro-postage, the charybdis AWAKENS! (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,36643.msg1248515.html#msg1248515)
And here I was, working on the OLD model dump version. Ah well.
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About bloody time another HTL ship shows up, that looks damn nice.
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Progress?
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One n00b question, is the Deimos already HTL'd? Didn't notice that ingame.
That's one of my favs actually
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Yes.
The fact that there's still six missiles (Rockeye, Tornado, Infyrno, TAG-A, B, and C) that have not been touched irks me. They made a bloody HTL countermeasure and they can't finish those?
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One n00b question, is the Deimos already HTL'd? Didn't notice that ingame.
That's one of my favs actually
It is HTLed but not UVmapped, so it doesn't look as good as, for example, HTL Iceni.
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One n00b question, is the Deimos already HTL'd? Didn't notice that ingame.
That's one of my favs actually
It's also an older high-poly model, so when compared/side-by-side to newer ones it looks a little low poly, which is probably why it didn't look high-poly to you.
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One n00b question, is the Deimos already HTL'd? Didn't notice that ingame.
That's one of my favs actually
It's also an older high-poly model, so when compared/side-by-side to newer ones it looks a little low poly, which is probably why it didn't look high-poly to you.
Yeah, it was a very noobish question, because I hadn't downloaded the latest mediavps (1gb is very big). Now that I did, I can see it in the pof viewer. Yeah, it is slightly better, I guess :D.
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Slightly............. :rolleyes:
Turn on Normail and glowmaps...... ;) :p
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Another noobish question. What about rockets? Part of them is still low poly and part of high poly versions is still not too nice...
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In-game missiles are, I guess, at a really low priority. Simply because you can't see them well enough to discern the difference between the hi-poly and the low poly ones. As for techroom missiles, well... there are a few that could use some work, but you would have to define "still not nice". Because I like all of them.
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Well. I feel 'retail' whenever I fire trebutchet... but this is MY opinion.
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C'mon.. some of the ships we have are FAR worse than any missile...
Many Shivan ships really need an upgrade. I would so rather people focused on ships than missiles I see for a second after I fire it.
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Indeed.
Besides, the decision to not upgrade the in-game models was a conscious one. It's better to spend polygons and textures on ships and stations than missiles.
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Meaning I still think it's stupid any high-poly missiles were made for in-mission use at all then.
It should be finished at some point or there's no reason it ever should've been done.
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Oh hell, I may as well do them. I've done all the missiles for FSPort and Star Wars. It should only take me a couple days.
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I didn't know you did the FotG missiles too.
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I dunno how out of date I am, but I would like to list these models which I believe have not been HTLed yet or are still in progress. Here they are:
-SD Demon
-GTI Arcadia (http://freespacemods.net/download.php?view.558) -- Author is Hades
-GTM Hippocrates (http://freespacemods.net/download.php?view.461) -- Author is brotherbyon
-SF Astaroth
-SB Seraphim
-SB Nephilim
-SB Nahema
-SB Taurvi
-GTT Argo
-GTI Ganymede
-GTFr Poseidon
-Shivan/Vasudan Cargo
-Shivan/Vasudan Sentries
Other than that, I'd like to know the status of these models, which I know have been HTLed:
-SJ Sathanas -- Councilor did a model
-GTVA Colossus -- Trashman did a model, I think
-GVD Typhon -- Trashman did a model
-GTB Artemis and D.H -- Mentioned somewhere
If they are complete and publically available, are there any download links?
Finally, will the forward-facing HTL Mjolnir by Unknown Author linked here be used:
http://freespacemods.net/download.php?view.496
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You forgot that TrashMan had been working on the Demon, but I think that he suffered a Hard Drive crash and lost it.
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Also note that Councilor == ragingloli, IIRC.
At any rate, work on the Hippo is actively ongoing at the moment.
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Arcadia Author is not Hades. Ragingloli.
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There's the GTD Hades.
Which had a completed model for the last 1, 1.5, 2 years and is still waiting for a texture job...
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Hades is done.
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-SJ Sathanas -- Councilor did a model
That's bigger than a regular Sathanas and also has a slightly different shape. It's been suggested to use it as a completely new model, under the name "Vassago". I don't know what happened to that mesh, though. Its pics were promising and it'd be a pity to see that model wasted.
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Hades is done.
Right, the ST:R teaser.
But even then, why isn't it released?
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Arcadia Author is not Hades. Ragingloli.
Nope, all I did was convert it. Ragingloli made the original.
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Also note that Councilor == ragingloli, IIRC.
No, I don't think so. It'd be funny if it were the case though, since ragingloli purged his DeviantArt account cause it was "facist" or something, while Councilor didn't. :P
-GTVA Colossus -- Trashman did a model, I think
-GVD Typhon -- Trashman did a model
ragingloli also did a model for both of these. The colossus is currently being worked on by Galemp I think.
esarai also did a typhon.
That's bigger than a regular Sathanas and also has a slightly different shape. It's been suggested to use it as a completely new model, under the name "Vassago". I don't know what happened to that mesh, though. Its pics were promising and it'd be a pity to see that model wasted.
I swear that must be the most overused name ever.
Anyhow, I'll bug ShadowGorrath about it since he's got contacts with Councilor.
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Councilor is not the same as ragingloli.
TrashMan's model is hardly spectacular.
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Plus it's the concept Colossus.
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At any rate, work on the Hippo is actively ongoing at the moment.
Oh is peterv still working on the mapping or has some one else taken over because that one is on my list to import into Blender for my next model dump?
So far I've got the Basilisk and Taurvi imported and looking stable, I'll start prepping on the Poseidon tonight and was going to do the Hippo last.
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Zacam is currently on it, AFAIK.
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So I probably should not make an design changes then if that's the case.
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Preferably not please! Unless there are serious mesh flaws to take into account, but it doesn't look (to me) like there are.
Noteably, I think it just needs LODs and Debris. Feel free to point out where I'm wrong in that assumption though.
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Noteably, I think it just needs LODs and Debris. Feel free to point out where I'm wrong in that assumption though.
Does that mean it has been mapped and textured already?
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This may be presumptive, but should ships/craft/utilities that have been upgraded be removed from the poll?
Dunno if I thought they should remain when I started this topic.
:nervous:
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Yeah... this thread
and...
this thread... (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=53969.0)
need updating.
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Yeah... this thread
and...
this thread... (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=53969.0)
need updating.
only a bit.