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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ashrak on November 18, 2008, 12:54:13 pm
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i saw some ZOMG :D
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/large_trailer2.html
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Damn. My skepticism of this film is decreasing.
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Finally, someone has realized that Star Trek is really all about fast cars, naked women, and explosions.
Thank you, Hollywood!
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Max Sterling may have had some creative input.
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Intriguing....I have an open mind on this movie. Its definitely got the action...lets see if its got everything else too.
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Finally, someone has realized that Star Trek is really all about fast cars, naked women, and explosions.
Thank you, Hollywood!
Let's be honest with ourselves-- are naked women really new territory for Star Trek? I mean, "where no man has gone before" isn't just a bunch of words for Starfleet; it's a way of life.
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Finally, someone has realized that Star Trek is really all about fast cars, naked women, and explosions.
Thank you, Hollywood!
:lol:
So true.
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I will not judge the movie by the trailers, but SO FAR it looks like the Enterprise in a Firefly/ Andromeda/ BSG/ Star Wars/ Bad Boys movie with a light I Robot touch.
[Spock]Intriguing[/Spock]
:D
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It gave me a Mad Max vibe. :/
And that ship near the end looks an awful lot like the sentry turrets in Portal.
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I though it was great, but one thing bothered me. In the original startrek episode "A Piece of the Action", Kirk obviously does not know how to use a clutch. Yet in the trailer he seems to be able to handle that car quite well. :)
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I found the bit near the beginning with Kirk and the cop to be somewhat...unnecessary and confusing.
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
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who says he is on earth?
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Well, beings that there really aren't any wheeled cars on any other planets and when it shows Kirk later on as he looks at the Enterprise in basically the same location, well... Yeah, this is Earth. :P
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Spock looks like Elrond with a short back and sides....
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I see they gave the Enterprise quite a remodeling job. Part of me likes it and part of me doesn't. It looks even newer than the refitted Enterprise.
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So, it will be almost a year before this movie comes out? By that time they have to release many more trailers to keep the hype up, which probably means we have seen the best scenes before the movie even comes out. :doubt:
And it is still difficult to see Sylar as Spock. It's just spooky.
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.
And it is still difficult to see Sylar as Spock. It's just spooky.
On the flipside Simon Pegg is playing Scotty.
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Finally, someone has realized that Star Trek is really all about fast cars, naked women, and explosions.
Thank you, Hollywood!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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That looks pretty freaking awesome. Anyone know what movies it's playing in front of? Quantum of Solace maybe?
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The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.
No, it's not a reboot. But there is a time travel storyline, which the producers say will create a new branch universe or something.
So, yeah, almost a reboot, but not quite. It involves time travelers from the 'old' Trek continuity, whose meddling -- I believe -- somehow creates a new one.
Plus, the producers really liked some of the Trek novels, and consider a few semi-canonical.
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i saw some ZOMG :D
I really gotta say, that's just... :jaw: We shall see, though.
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.
That isn't a good thing.
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One question I have is, where the hell is Bones in the trailer? Bones, Spock and Kirk are essentially the three main actors of the TOS. That's why their names come before the credits. I sort of understand why they'd focus on Kirk and Spock for the trailer, but I didn't even see anyone who looked like Bones. Sulu, Uhuru and presumably Checkov were there though. Come to think of it, I didn't see any red shirted scottsmen either.
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Scotty was there, you can hear him talking about how he likes the ship.
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Scotty was there, you can hear him talking about how he likes the ship.
Oh is that Scotty? Given the clothes he was wearing I thought it was some, transient they picked up.
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One question I have is, where the hell is Bones in the trailer? Bones, Spock and Kirk are essentially the three main actors of the TOS. That's why their names come before the credits. I sort of understand why they'd focus on Kirk and Spock for the trailer, but I didn't even see anyone who looked like Bones. Sulu, Uhuru and presumably Checkov were there though. Come to think of it, I didn't see any red shirted scottsmen either.
He's there. He's Karl Urban. He says "Space is disease and danger, wrapped in darkness and silence." At the end, you can see him making a Bones face.
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Given how much action is in the trailer and all of the Kirk scenes they focused on...not as much of the other characters were shown. Hopefully we get another trailer soonish that will give us more of the characters.
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I wonder if part of the time travel story will explain why Scotties hair was more receded in the past than it was by the time TOS started ;)
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.
That isn't a good thing.
Why not? Star Trek needs a refresh.
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I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.
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I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.
Don't be such a downer! Positate the negatate. This movie will be a good way to wipe out some of the major ****-ups which have been plaguing Trek since it began.
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
The whole series is rebooting, so forget absolutly everything you remember about the original.
That isn't a good thing.
Why not? Star Trek needs a refresh.
I think both Enterprise and The Second Data (as I call it) showed that that can't work.
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I like it just fine where it is, thank you very much.
Bleah, Star Trek went downhill after TNG.
DS9 is just a rip off of B5 (I tried watching this thing, but when every episode started with Quark I got pissed off and quit)
Voyager, well they butchered the Borg. Most of the characters are pretty unlikeable from what I've seen of it.
Enterprise is okay. But, largely uninspiring. A few good moments.
It's not like Star Trek has real continuity anyway. Ever watch TNG? Technology was always dictated by the plot. Sometimes they can do something, sometimes they can't. Like beaming through rock, or not. Or, the particle of the week.
I mean, just take the new movie for what it is and enjoy it.
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DS9 is just a rip off of B5
Phew, thanks for that! I no longer need to pay any attention to your posts ever again. That's a real time saver. :)
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DS9 is just a rip off of B5
Phew, thanks for that! I no longer need to pay any attention to your posts ever again. That's a real time saver. :)
Oh please man, JMS, the guy who made B5 approached Paramount with his idea. They told him to piss off. Some time later, Star Trek DS9 comes out. And what is it? A station, in neutral territory that becomes the centre, integral command post in a large war (Dominion War/Shadow War), run by a guy who was on the receiving end of an asskicking (Sisko vs Borg/Sinclair vs Minbari), who gets a special spaceship (Defiant/White Star). There are many, MANY other direct comparisons as well, read on:
http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/si/similarities_between_babylon_5_and_star_trek:_deep_space_nine.htm (http://en.allexperts.com/e/s/si/similarities_between_babylon_5_and_star_trek:_deep_space_nine.htm)
Or feel free to stick your head in the sand, whichever.
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Yeah, no.
See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?
So feel free to give it another shot, with an open mind it's quite a good watch.
Or don't. I really don't care.
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Yeah, no.
See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?
So feel free to give it another shot, with an open mind it's quite a good watch.
Or don't. I really don't care.
So, you're saying. If it's a bad show, it's a rip off? And if it's a good show, it's not a rip off? Wow. That's some crafty logic you got going on there. I don't see why anyone's surprised anyway, studios rip each other off all the time. How often do you see two movies about the same topic come out virtually in tandem? Though to be fair, as JMS says the ripping off was likely done by the corporate folks, not the people who actually care about the show in any concept other than its monetary value. So Berman and the other guys were just following orders, and thereafter the writers of both shows could diverge it a little bit.
But regardless. I've never watched DS9 the whole way through. I've heard some people say the seasons with the war were quite entertaining. It was on Spike for a while and I think I probably watched about most of the first season, but when EVERY SINGLE EPISODE starts off with Quark in his bar, I got fed up. I mean, it's a military space station. And most of the air time is some stupid bartender. And yeah I know he was popular at the time but not in my mind. Seriously it was like Sisko and his gang got less air time than some civilian guy with big ears. I don't get that. I saw a few episodes after that, most of which turned about to be season finales apparently, but I didn't really know what was going on.
Then, my two favourite characters, Bashir and the hot freckled chick get killed off or switched or something. I think Worf marries the girl but later on but she doesn't look like the same actress. As it stands the only Trek series I plan on picking up is TOS (one of the seasons I have already). I may see DS9 sometime, but I doubt it. Its very rare that I bother to switch on the TV, though I'm probably missing one or two worthwhile shows.
But anyway, the new movie looks sweet.
And back on topic further, I figured out who McCoy was and wasn't overly impressed with his 3 seconds of dialogue. Didn't strike me much as McCoy. But maybe he'll come across better in the movie.
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So, you're saying. If it's a bad show, it's a rip off? And if it's a good show, it's not a rip off? Wow. That's some crafty logic you got going on there.
Considering I didn't even mention whether or not DS9 copied Babylon 5, I'd say my logic was pretty good. I merely said that both programs were entertaining, so there's no real reason to care.
I'm sure you had more excellent points, but that's honestly about as far as I read before I got bored.
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I liked voyager :(
No not just for Seven Of Nine.............but For Kes too :yes:
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See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?
It was crap. Bad acting, bad script, tons of plot holes. The only thing worth watching were the CGI battles.
Back on Topic tough - the last thing the ST universe needs is MORE time travel. They f*** it up enough as it is.
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I'm curious as to if Klingons are old or new style..... i don't know what i should be expecting :confused:
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I'm curious as to if Klingons are old or new style..... i don't know what i should be expecting :confused:
It's J.J. Abrams, man. I'm expecting some mind****ery that makes no sense whatsoever.
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See, if DS9 were a bad show, you might actually have a point. But the fact of the matter is that it's widely considered a high-point in the franchise. It was dark, it was moody, and it was downright entertaining. So was Babylon 5, in fact. Why exactly are we complaining about two entertaining shows?
It was crap. Bad acting, bad script, tons of plot holes. The only thing worth watching were the CGI battles.
Back on Topic tough - the last thing the ST universe needs is MORE time travel. They f*** it up enough as it is.
I kinda liked DS9. It was a step in the right direction for Trek.
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The only trek series i never really got into... Star trek = Vessels in my view, i just thought basing it on a Station was a bit boring. Jadzia / Hellraiser 3 girl was hawt that's about it.
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Trailer looks awful. Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
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Trailer looks awful. Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
The trailer does not make the movie. Personally, I think I'll wait until it comes down to either give it the thumbs up or kill that mothertrucker with fire.
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Trailer looks awful. Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
The trailer does not make the movie. Personally, I think I'll wait until it comes down to either give it the thumbs up or kill that mothertrucker with fire.
I see what you did there. ;)
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It means he apparently got into trouble a lot when he was a kid. Which actually kind of creates an inconsistency since in the books when he was about that age he was on a different planet at the time.
Well it looks like his parents are killed on the Kelvin, so chalk that one up to space-time wankery. A *real* reboot would have been better though.
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Ke;vin is a stupid name for a Vessel..... It sounds like the name a parent would give to a child destined for ummmm.... well you know :nervous:
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Trek really does need a reboot. Whether this is a good reboot remains to be seen.
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Trailer looks awful. Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
I'll bet you would be offended by someone calling you a 'trekie'.
:lol:
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Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
Dumbing it down? You mean even more than it already is? Is that even possible?
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Dumbing down Trek to make it accessible to the general unwashed masses is not a good thing to do.
Dumbing it down? You mean even more than it already is? Is that even possible?
That's kind of inflammatory. I'm not a huge Trek fan, but it's definitely not a dumb show, and it routinely tackles big issues.
So, yeah, don't troll.
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Hmmm. . . .
I agree that earlier "particle/radiation of the week" comment was pretty apt. But yeah keep it pleasant Plox. .
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Trek was originally a product of the 60's, and it shows. An update is not such a bad thing, a lot has happened since then.
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Hmmm. . . .
I agree that earlier "particle/radiation of the week" comment was pretty apt. But yeah keep it pleasant Plox. .
Voyager and Enterprise definitely suffered that way.
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That's kind of inflammatory.
Opinions often are...especially if there's easily flammable things in the vicinity.
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As they'd probably say on Trek, the modulation is important. But if we want to critique your delivery we can take it back to the monkeying thread.
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Looked good. But well find out in what, a year?
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As they'd probably say on Trek, the modulation is important. But if we want to critique your delivery we can take it back to the monkeying thread.
Well, I think Trek has been getting progressively worse.
I can call it a big piece of s*** if I wanted to (but it's not that bad, at least the earlier ones), last time I checked that fell under the basic civil rights of any person. You don't have to like it.
There's nothing really inflamatory about considering some show/game/whatever bad.
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Nope, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion. Just express it politely.
I really liked the direction they're taking with the visual effects, and I like the idea of making some of the novels partially canon -- allusions to 'Spock's World' are fine by me.
And it looks like they have a (time travel) explanation for why new-Kirk is slightly different, personality-wise, from old-Kirk.
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Nope, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion. Just express it politely.
I really liked the direction they're taking with the visual effects, and I like the idea of making some of the novels partially canon -- allusions to 'Spock's World' are fine by me.
And it looks like they have a (time travel) explanation for why new-Kirk is slightly different, personality-wise, from old-Kirk.
Eh. I still think he's going to be the Byronic hero we've all come to know and...love.
(http://www.neowin.net/forum/fun/kirk_aroused.jpg)
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http://db.rambleschmack.net/images/posts/how-to-put-it/kirk-inspirational-awesome.jpg
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Looked good. But well find out in what, a year?
The trailer says May 2009 :D
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I will admit the special effects look dazzling and the explosions tempt me...but I have to say:
Please, can we let it die? There are a lot of other franchises that can be hashed out and spent money on (such as Space: Above and Beyond) that could use their own feature-length movie. There are a lot of unexplored science fiction novellas and books that can be brought to the screen. I really want new material.
And what is it with prequels lately? It seems that prequels have become oh-so popular in modern media...that and remakes of remakes of remakes. I already know what happened to the original star trek crew - I've read all the novels, memorized the TV series, etc. My loyalty has been established with the original cast, too. Why do I want to see them portrayed by another cast?
If anything, this will potentially be effective at drawing in a new crowd to throw cash at the Star Trek milking farm, but for someone who obsessed about Trek, putting everything else aside to be loyal to its original incarnation, I'd rather they just moved on to something else new.
And is it just me, or does the kid call himself "James Siberius Kirk" instead of Tiberius?